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Title: Ancient Irish Genome Sequenced By Scientists, Reveals Massive Migration
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URL Source: http://www.ibtimes.com/ancient-iris ... eals-massive-migration-2242283
Published: Dec 29, 2015
Author: HIMANSHU GOENKA
Post Date: 2015-12-29 08:47:16 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 816
Comments: 37

Genetic analysis of a neolithic woman from near Belfast, Ireland, shows that she had black hair and brown eyes. Pictured: The reconstructed skull of the neolithic woman.

A team of researchers from Trinity College Dublin and Queen’s University Belfast has sequenced the first genomes from ancient Irish people, providing insights into questions about the origins and culture of the region. Results of the study were published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America.

The researchers sequenced the genome of an early farmer woman, who lived near Belfast some 5,200 years ago, and those of three men from a later period, around 4,000 years ago in the Bronze Age, after the introduction of metalworking, according to a statement on the Trinity College Dublin website.

“There was a great wave of genome change that swept into Europe from above the Black Sea into Bronze Age Europe and we now know it washed all the way to the shores of its most westerly island,” Professor Dan Bradley of Trinity College Dublin, who led the study, said.

The study revealed that the Neolithic woman farmer's ancestry originated in the Middle East, where agriculture was invented. The woman was similar to modern people from Spain and the Mediterranean island of Sardinia, and had black hair and brown eyes.

In contrast, the three Bronze Age men from Rathlin Island had at least a third of their ancestry from the Pontic Steppe, a region north of the Black Sea now spread across present-day Russia and Ukraine. They had a gene component that is responsible for blue eyes and an important chromosome variant that causes the genetic disease, haemochromatosis, which causes the body to retain a higher content of iron than normal.

“It is clear that this project has demonstrated what a powerful tool ancient DNA analysis can provide in answering questions which have long perplexed academics regarding the origins of the Irish,” said Eileen Murphy, senior lecturer at Queen’s University Belfast, who was also involved in the study.

With this study, researchers have found clues to the origins of the Irish people and identified some reasons for certain intriguing genetic traits among them, such as a higher incidence of haemochromatosis and an increased lactose tolerance well into adulthood.

Researchers now hope this study will spur further research on the subject. “This degree of genetic change invites the possibility of other associated changes, perhaps even the introduction of language ancestral to western Celtic tongues,” Professor Bradley said.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

noone222  posted on  2015-12-29   8:59:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222 (#1)

The researchers sequenced the genome of an early farmer woman, who lived near Belfast some 5,200 years ago, and those of three men from a later period, around 4,000 years ago in the Bronze Age,

The Irish woman would seem to predate the migration of the 12 tribes.

Ada  posted on  2015-12-29   9:44:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#2)

I am anticipating a lot of surprises relating to the west's origins at some point.

noone222  posted on  2015-12-29   11:11:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#3)

I am anticipating a lot of surprises relating to the west's origins at some point.

I would prefer that the sons of Leah be out of existence. They had nothing to recommend them.

Ada  posted on  2015-12-29   11:59:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ada (#4)

I would prefer that the sons of Leah be out of existence.

In the past I would hear various critics explain their opinions relative to scripture and finally concluded that only God's opinion matters in those instances, not man's.

noone222  posted on  2015-12-29   12:03:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#6)

In the past I would hear various critics explain their opinions relative to scripture and finally concluded that only God's opinion matters in those instances, not man's.

Scripture doesn't speak kindly of Leah's children. Israel critized them. Not sure if Dinah as a sinner or sinned against.

Only one seemed to have inherited Jacob's gift of forward thinking and that was his son by Rachel.

Ada  posted on  2015-12-29   12:10:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ada (#7) (Edited)

Strong's Concordance

laban: white

Scripture doesn't speak kindly of Leah's children. Israel critized them.

Leah and Rachel were Laban's daughters. The other ladies bearing Jacob's children were not daughters but handmaidens. Laban was Jacob's uncle through his mother Rebecca. Laban in Hebrew means "white" ... Jacob was instructed NOT TO DO as Esau and marry a strange (foreign) woman/women ... so he didn't. He married his white cousins and I would speculate that the handmaidens were white as well.

Let me further say that I do not often get into this discussion because it usually goes nowhere. But, I have watched your activities here on 4UM and know you are a very responsible participant. I do not think that this particular history should have any impact upon us (white people) or upon our thinking so as to create white supremacist ideologies, especially since most are unaware in the 1st place.

My own opinion, which is just speculation based upon scripture (Hosea comes to mind) is that the events if they did indeed occur and have remained hidden for thousands of years will only glorify God !

EDIT: Strong's Concordance

laban: white

original Word: לָבָן

Part of Speech: Adjective

Transliteration: laban

Phonetic Spelling: (law-bawn')

Short Definition: white

NAS Exhaustive Concordance

Word Origin

from laben

Definition white

NASB Translation

white (24), white ones (1).

noone222  posted on  2015-12-29   12:25:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#10)

Laban was not admirable--first recorded bait-and-switch. The deal was for Rachael but he substituted Leah.

If we accept Paul's teaching that the Elect are chosen and not entitled by blood, the conclusion would be that Leah's children are irrelevant. Much as Esau was irrelevant.

Moses, incidentally, married at least one foreign woman--an Ethiopean no less--and chastized his family for disrespecting her.

Ada  posted on  2015-12-29   13:20:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ada (#12)

Laban was not admirable--first recorded bait-and-switch.

Jacob wasn't admirable either but God's will is being done irrespective of man's character defects. Didn't Jacob steal Esau's birthright ? And wasn't it because he (Esau) had taken a foreign wife ?

Much as Esau was irrelevant.

Esau is anything but irrelevant. The Jewish encyclopedia states that modern Jewry descend from Edom (Esau).

As much as mankind would imagine themselves able to determine the mind of God or how God should act that just isn't the way it truly is. It's all His. He's the potter and we're the clay. Our short lifespan hasn't any means of truly comprehending infinity or infinite wisdom.

In the end I think it will play out as intended. One thing I think is important especially for Christians to ponder is that there were 12 Tribes promised land that is today Israel/Palestine and it's being (entirely) claimed by imposters or at best the 2 remaining Tribes that didn't disappear.

Another thing, regardless of how many times I've been told that these so-called Jews are the "Chosen" I can't find where they have ever fulfilled "any" (even one promise) the promises made to Abraham by God.

There are many instances in scripture where the least likely candidate was used by God to fulfill them.

noone222  posted on  2015-12-29   13:35:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: noone222 (#13)

Jacob wasn't admirable either but God's will is being done irrespective of man's character defects. Didn't Jacob steal Esau's birthright ? And wasn't it because he (Esau) had taken a foreign wife ?

Much as Esau was irrelevant.

Bible doesn't sugar-coat anything. Yes, Jacob was a thief, and his momma too. I'm not sure what the blessing was other than there could not have been two, but it might have had to do with the right to rule. Obviously, Esau was unfit because he was willing to trade his birthright for a mess of pottage. He couldn't think beyond his stomach. Jacob was God's elect and a far thinker.

Not familiar with the evidence the Jewish encyclopedia uses but I am surprised at the claim. Thought the Edomites disappeared just like the 12 tribes.

Ada  posted on  2015-12-29   13:56:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ada, noone222 (#14)

Thanks for the great dialogue, I'm enjoying it very much.

Lod  posted on  2015-12-29   14:02:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#15)

Thanks for the great dialogue, I'm enjoying it very much.

Glad you are. As Noone rightly points out, its tricky to discuss religion.

Ada  posted on  2015-12-29   15:06:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ada, noone222, 4 (#18)

You and Doug are discussing historical, Biblical, facts; not some belief system, where things seem to head south quickly. I appreciate the chance to learn.

Lod  posted on  2015-12-29   15:17:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lod (#21)

You and Doug are discussing historical, Biblical, facts;

An atheist would say we are discussing old stories invented by ignorant sheepshaggers.

Ada  posted on  2015-12-29   15:49:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ada (#22)

An atheist would say we are discussing old stories invented by ignorant sheepshaggers.

Funny you should say that because most calling themselves Jews today are atheists.

Didn't Christ say my sheep hear my voice.

[ John 10:27-28King James Version (KJV)

27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.]

The so-called Jews despise Christ often spitting at hearing His name.

noone222  posted on  2015-12-29   17:19:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: noone222, Ada (#26)

After Christ, there are only believers or non-believers. You are either in Christ, or you're not. Letters to the Galatians and the Colossians are very clear.

Jews to me are just other non-believers.

Lod  posted on  2015-12-29   17:55:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Lod (#29) (Edited)

After Christ, there are only believers or non-believers.

Believe this: (what Christ said)

King James Bible [Matthew 15:24]

But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

noone222  posted on  2015-12-29   18:19:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222 (#31)

He was sent to them, and they rejected Him. So believers and the disciples were sent out into the world to spread the good news of salvation. He was sent first to the Jews and then the Gentiles.

The Scribes and Pharisees wanted nothing to do with a humble carpenter from Nazareth; they chose Barabbas instead.

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