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Title: Top Cardinal Blasts 'Da Vinci Code' as 'Cheap Lies'
Source: Netscape News
URL Source: http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news ... 2&dt=20050315130200&w=RTR&covi
Published: Mar 15, 2005
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2005-03-15 17:59:13 by Mr Nuke Buzzcut
Keywords: Cardinal, Blasts, Cheap
Views: 8312
Comments: 568

Top Cardinal Blasts 'Da Vinci Code' as 'Cheap Lies'

ROME (Reuters) - A top Catholic cardinal has blasted "The Da Vinci Code" as a "gross and absurd" distortion of history and said Catholic bookstores should take the bestseller off their shelves because it is full of "cheap lies."

Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, in an interview with the Milan newspaper Il Giornale, became the highest ranking Italian Churchman to speak out against the book, an international blockbuster that has sold millions of copies.

"(It) aims to discredit the Church and its history through gross and absurd manipulations," Bertone, the archbishop of the northern Italian city of Genoa and a close friend of Pope John Paul told the paper in its Monday edition.

"This seems like a throwback to the old anti-clerical pamphlets of the 1800s," he said.

The central claim of the book, written by American Dan Brown, is that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had children. The Bible says Jesus never married, was crucified and rose from the dead.

Bertone's comments were significant because until the Pope named him archbishop of Genoa in 2003 he was for years the number two man at the Vatican's most powerful department - the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

"You can find that book everywhere and the risk is that many people who read it believe that those fairy tales are real," he said. "I think I have the responsibility to clear things up to unmask the cheap lies contained in books like that."

HOLY GRAIL

A central storyline of the book is that the Holy Grail is not the cup which Christ is said to have used at the Last Supper but really the bloodline descended from Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Bertone calls this idea "a perversion."

Bertone is so incensed about the novel that he will be the key speaker at a roundtable in Genoa Wednesday night attempting to dismantle the book, which also accuses the Church of covering up the female role in Christianity.

"I will try to clear things up and help form consciences," the cardinal said.

"I think that when faced with affirmations that are so shameful and unfounded, readers who have even a minimum of basic (Christian) formation should react," he said.

He said it was "sad" that even Catholic bookstores were selling The Da Vinci Code "for purely economic reasons."

One bookstore selling "The Da Vinci Code" is the one in the Gemelli Hospital, a Catholic institution where the Pope spent a total of 28 days in two stints in February and March.

In the interview, Bertone firmly rejected the book's claim that the feminine role in Christianity had been suppressed.

"This is one of the most vulgar of inventions. The feminine element is present in all the Gospels," Bertone said.

Bertone also strongly defended Opus Dei, the conservative Church organization that the book depicts as a ruthless, Machiavellian group that resorts even to murder in its attempt to keep the Church's secrets hidden.

The novel is going to reach an even wider audience next year with the release of a film based on the book staring Tom Hanks.

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03/15/2005 13:02 RTR

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#172. To: Samuel Gray (#169)

What about the 400 species of hummingbirds? Did he take some of each, Or did we have "fast forward" evolution from just the original two?

He took 7 of the clean beasts and only 2 of the unclean ...

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   14:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: noone222 (#172)

He took 7 of the clean beasts and only 2 of the unclean ...

Ah. That cleared it right up. I'm going to stack and burn all my science books right now.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   14:45:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Don, All (#163)

Belittlement for believing in Christ is something which people should respond to. Christians are not second-class citizens for believing in Christ, nor are they dumb, illogical, or uneducated. And, that is something that the people who "know better" can't seem to understand.

"E-fucking-zactly"

Many in our society today suffer from an extreme case of undeserved, self- imposed, intellectual arrogance that blinds them to the terrible limitations of their pea-brains. These self-described Einsteins, are in truth, mental midgets that think it's OK to Blaspheme God and His Word, while "championing" a (sub) human species that has been a blight upon humanity from its inception.

"Rich"

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   14:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Samuel Gray (#173)

I'm going to stack and burn all my science books right now.

Great idea in your case ... all you'll miss are the pictures !

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   14:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: noone222 (#174)

"championing" a (sub) human species that has been a blight upon humanity from its inception.

You wanna spell that one out? C'mon, you know you do.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   14:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: noone222 (#175)

That's lame, even for you. You and Quantrill are birds of an ideological feather, aren't you? Do you get your sheets and hoods starched and pressed at the same place?

I'd say you were "philosophical" brethren, but the word means "lover of wisdom" and the light of wisdom has never darkened a corner of what passes for your brain.

I strongly suspect your brand of picture books are the kind you hold up w/ one hand while "stroking your ego" with the other.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Samuel Gray (#176)

You wanna spell that one out?

It would only serve a purpose to do so for someone that can read. You don't qualify.

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:01:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: noone222 (#172)

He took 7 of the clean beasts and only 2 of the unclean ...

Did Noah take two of each species of bacteria? Did he take two even if the bacteria reproduced asexually? Where did he keep the bacteria? Did Noah and his family infect themselves with every disease in existence?

What about viruses? Did Noah collect two of each of these or are these not considered to be living things?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-03-16   15:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Samuel Gray (#177)

I strongly suspect your brand of picture books are the kind you hold up w/ one hand while "stroking your ego" with the other.

I'm more inclined (and so are "many others" on this forum) to believe that you have described your own book collection ... and your own "ego"

and we will never be "brethern"

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: noone222 (#174)

God and His Word, while "championing" a (sub) human species that has been a blight upon humanity from its inception.

Are you saying the Jesus wants us to hate and kill the Jews? Don't beat around the bush on this one.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-03-16   15:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: noone222 (#178)

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: crack monkey (#179)

Did Noah collect two of each of these or are these not considered to be living things?

I think we may get all of the answers at some point in time, not today.

I'm not convinced that the "flood" was universal ... it may have been restricted to a particular area that was the "known" world ...

I'm not sure the Bible was written to answer every question that mankind might develope.

I heard a Scientist say that to believe the universe was created by a big boom was tantamount to believing a tornado blowing through a junk yard could build a Space Shuttle. I agree with him.

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: noone222 (#178)

You bloody coward. Can't even say it straight out? You gutless, nutless hate filled sack of pus.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Samuel Gray (#182)

Huh ... spit it out !!!

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: noone222 (#180)

I'm more inclined (and so are "many others" on this forum)

Name names or STFU, you neanderthal pussy.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: crack monkey, noone222 (#181)

Are you saying the Jesus wants us to hate and kill the Jews? Don't beat around the bush on this one.

That's exactly what he believes, he's just too much of a coward to say it out and own it like a man.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: noone222 (#183)

I'm not convinced that the "flood" was universal ... it may have been restricted to a particular area that was the "known" world ...

I'm not sure the Bible was written to answer every question that mankind might develope.

That's a good answer. There does seem to be quite a bit of evidence that some sort of world changing flood took place. As you probably know, it exists int he folklore of other cultures in the region. Some think this is the flooding of the black sea and others think it was a meteor strike or volcanic erruption.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-03-16   15:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Samuel Gray (#184)

You bloody coward. Can't even say it straight out? You gutless, nutless hate filled sack of pus.

This type of speech will reduce the positive effect of your blood pressure medicine. Calm down Sam, the girls will be forced to throw you out if these outbursts of yours aren't corrected. Try prozac or ritalin ... children's doses would be most applicable.

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: noone222 (#189)

the girls will be forced to throw you out

Let 'em. That's the only way to keep me from responding to your particularly virulent brand of hatred.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: Samuel Gray (#187)

Are you saying the Jesus wants us to hate and kill the Jews? Don't beat around the bush on this one.

That's exactly what he believes, he's just too much of a coward to say it out and own it like a man.

Oh Sam, how distraught you appear to be today. Is your dog menustrating ?

I don't think you can cite me ever saying that, even though sometimes I think the Jews do things that make people want to hate and kill them.

You really shouldn't put words in Jesus' mouth, he hasn't returned yet and can't defend himself.

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: noone222 (#191)

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:26:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Samuel Gray (#192)

Huh ... c'mon ... calm down and type your response before you hit the button.

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: noone222 (#191)

I was quoting crackmonkey's question to you, dimbulb, which you haven't had the cojones to answer yet either.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Samuel Gray (#194)

I was quoting crackmonkey's question to you, dimbulb,

Ask your own questions "dimmer-switch" ... I responded to crack-monkey's intelligent question and if you can figure out how to ask one I'll respond to yours !

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: noone222 (#195)

You answered his question in #181? That didn't show up on a trace. Perhaps you'd care to give it another go?

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: all (#192)

Can't we all just get high or something?

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-03-16   15:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Samuel Gray (#196)

You answered his question in #181

Perhaps your ability to focus is hindered due to the overdose of prozac your mom gave you this morning. Try, please try to pay better attention I hate repeating myself.

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Jhoffa_ (#197)

Can't we all just get high or something?

Great idea ...

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: Jhoffa_ (#197)

Can't we all just get high or something?

Maybe, but noone222's drug of choice is an inhalant that hasn't been available since they shut down the big ovens in about 1945.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: noone222 (#199)

"towlie" hacked my account..

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-03-16   15:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Samuel Gray (#200)

Maybe, but noone222's drug of choice is

Let me be honest and fill this in with a legitimate answer. Maybe, but noone222's drug of choice is Yashua Messiah. I'm high on Jesus Christ, not a bit embarrased to admit it, and give the Almighty all of the credit for making me a happy camper in the midst of a world going mad !

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: noone222 (#198)

I hate repeating myself.

Nah, you don't. You love the sound of it, you're just too impotent to act on it. Conviction without courage.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: Samuel Gray (#203)

you're just too impotent to act on it.

It's not me that has entered two blank posts ... your impotence is obvious to any casual observer ... you should refrain from opening your mouth ... you're gonna get athlete's foot in it !

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: noone222 (#202)

noone222's drug of choice is Yashua Messiah.

So, like the bumper sticker, your boss is a Jewish carpenter?

How ironic...

Samuel Gray  posted on  2005-03-16   15:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: CAPPSMADNESS, Don (#151)

Please count me in the group that ain't sorry Christianity is here to stay.

rowdee  posted on  2005-03-16   15:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: Samuel Gray (#205)

your boss is a Jewish carpenter?

That's a common misconception. I wouldn't expect your conception to be otherwise.

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   15:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: Samuel Gray (#205)

Actually his boss is Jewish royalty, but let's not go there, because then the Christians will get really upset, they worship a Jewish King...LOL

That would be like Muslims worshipping King Abdullah of Jordan...ROFLMAO!!!

Boy, 2000 years and they are still so confused that they don't realize that they have been suckered...

Christianity is the biggest con game ever created and pushed on the human race, and the Billion or so christians are true to the form, there is a sucker born every minute.

Hell, L Ron Hubbard proved that, and he just died what? 10 years ago or so?

Aric2000  posted on  2005-03-16   15:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: Aric2000 (#161)

And because they are considered 'oral history', so to speak, are you trying to suggest they are not believable or are untruthful? Simply because one herds sheep doesn't mean a hell of a lot. Look at scientists today who are 'brilliant', but can't change a lighbulb.

Sort of like the modern day folk who will try to tell you an oral contract is meaningless?

rowdee  posted on  2005-03-16   16:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: Aric2000 (#208)

Christians don't worship David, Aric.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-03-16   16:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: Jhoffa_ (#201)

"towlie" hacked my account..

What's a "towlie" ???

noone222  posted on  2005-03-16   16:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: noone222 (#211)

It's a pot smoking, burnt out, "party" towel from "South Park"

His name is "Towlie" and he's a stone cold, stoner.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-03-16   16:03:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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