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Title: Neo-Coward
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URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=127494&Disp=97#C97
Published: Feb 2, 2006
Author: Aaron the Homosexual
Post Date: 2006-02-03 19:28:54 by Esso
Keywords: Neo-Coward
Views: 2335
Comments: 119
97. To: WhiteSands, Brian S (#53) FREEDOM4UM Here is where they gather. I've already reported the forum to the office of Homeland Security. They scare me. Aaron posted on 2006-02-02 16:43:21 ET Reply Trace
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#1. To: Esso (#0)
Let's all gather 'round around White Sands, protector of our rights. :)
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
I saw a little of that thread earlier, all those people except BrianS are nuttier than shithouse rats.
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
You got that right.
ping!
Aaron? Is that an Irish name?
it's a sissy-boy name.
You do that Kapo Aaron. I'm referring to the Kameradenpolizei definition, but if you prefer Polynesian mythology, the choice is yours.
Mr Rumsfeld said the emergence of populist leaders through elections in Latin American was "worrisome".
We're talking about you...
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
berry FReekin' harsh....
When do we riot?
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
I know, I "always know"...LOL!!! Thanks for excluding me from the "shithouse rats" list. Getting crazy over there. Even the Forum Princess appears to be off her "meds"... "Shouldn't be long now"...indeed!
Uhhhhh, my guess would be no, but I'll not venture to guess. Wouldn't want to get anybody's panties in a wad, don'cha know? ;)
see how they run like pigs from a gun...I'm crying!
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
AARON Gender: Masculine Usage: English, Biblical Pronounced: ER-un [key] Extra Info: Popularity, Related Names, Namesakes, Name Days, Comments Options: Contribute Information, Add to List From the Hebrew name Aharon which is most likely of unknown Egyptian origin. Other theories claim a Hebrew derivation, and suggest meanings such as "high mountain" or "exalted". In the Old Testament Aaron was the older brother of Moses and the first high priest of the Israelites.
Burkeman's pretty cool too, maybe a couple of others. It's a really short list. I don't know how you guys can stand that sewer though.
I was saddened to see that Neil officially surrendered site ownership and that it is now registered by Goldi. I kept hope alive that eventually NM would return but those hopes have been dashed.
That's why when I start my forum that no one posts to again I'm considering changintg the name to Christian-Patriot Network.
James Gang did a song called "Walk Away". Good enough.
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
I NEVER would've guessed! :P
I was thinking. With 1/2 of the Beatles gone, and most of the Bee Gees dead, maybe they could join together and form the GEETLES?
ping
Burkemans does a great job as does GO65, High Hopes, Joe Hadenuf, hfrancis (I know I'm forgetting some but not many)...
Consider this: The original drummer and bass player from the Beatles still live, and the original guitarist and singer from The Who still lives. Maybe they should get together for one last "superstar" tour? They could donate the proceeds to charity, and call the new act "Who Cares".
#2. To: Esso (#0)
#3. To: Dakmar (#2)
...all those people except BrianS are nuttier than shithouse rats.
#4. To: Jethro Tull, robin, Zipporah, Brian S, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, Flintlock, rowdee, Diana, Dude Lebowski, FormerLurker, SKYDRIFTER, BTP Holdings, TommyTheMadArtist, itisa1mosttoolate, justlurking, aristeides, avian virus, Bayonne, Bill D Berger, tom007,, Bub (#0)
#5. To: Esso (#0)
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
#7. To: Esso (#0)
#8. To: Brian S (#0)
#9. To: christine (#6)
it's a sissy-boy name.
#10. To: christine, Brian S (#4)
#11. To: Dakmar (#8)
We're talking about you...
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
Aaron? Is that an Irish name?
#13. To: Brian S (#11)
#14. To: Esso (#12)
#15. To: Brian S, Burkeman1 (#11)
Thanks for excluding me from the "shithouse rats" list.
#16. To: Dakmar (#13)
#17. To: christine (#6)
#18. To: Brian S (#16)
#19. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
#20. To: Dakmar (#13)
see how they run like pigs from a gun...I'm crying!
#21. To: wbales, Eoghan, buckeroo, duckhunter, leveller, Elliott Jackalope, orangedog, Axenolith, Arete, Fred Mertz, Grumble Jones, Hmmmmm, mehitable, MUDDOG, Neil McIver, Nostalgia, Pissed Off Janitor, PnbC, Rabble Rouser, Red Jones, Sam Houston, Soda Pop (#6)
#22. To: Esso (#15)
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
 | Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#24. To: Elliott Jackalope (#23)
Hmmmm....we could dig up Jerry Garcia and team him with Peter Best and call them "The Best of the Dead"
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
Bee Gees? I was thinking Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr should team up with Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey, get some new power trio material...
I was thinking. With 1/2 of the Beatles gone, and most of the Bee Gees dead, maybe they could join together and form the GEETLES?
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#26. To: Dakmar (#25)
Beat ya to it. See post #23
| Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#27. To: Elliott Jackalope (#23)
Have you been swilling congac and listening to old Roky Erikson records too?
The original drummer and bass player from the Beatles still live, and the original guitarist and singer from The Who still lives.
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#28. To: Dakmar (#25)
Maybe a rock opera?
#29. To: Elliott Jackalope (#26)
Saw it, good work. Did you know Moon and Entwistle almost became the the rhythm section of Led Zeppelin? Listen closely to "Becks Bolero" from Truth sometime, name that drummer. :)
Beat ya to it. See post #23
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#30. To: Dakmar (#27)
Nope. I'm all about new bands doing new music. There are so many acts out there giving their music away for free, just hoping that people will download and listen to their stuff. Why buy corporate owned music when there's so many great bands out there giving it away for free? Check it out. Go to http://www.garageband.com and look up the following bands / songs: Check those out and get back to me and let me know what you think. This goes for all of you. Don't say I never gave you anything.
Band: Suede Pudding - Song: Soho Girl
Band: Violaine - Song:My Everything
Band: Sinister Dexter - Song: Chasing the Clouds
Band: Neon Macaw - Song: Silver Cinema
Band: Xanda Howe - Song: Beautiful Friend
Band: Fractal Quintet - Song: Simon'samba
Band: Stars of Stage and Screen - Song: Silver Memories
Band: Green Man - Song: She Moved Through The Fair
Band: Scott Hill - Song: Wodom Dotonto
| Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#31. To: christine (#4)
What a riot! Ol' blondie's true colors are coming out! She does, in fact, censor. She also doesn't play by her own frickin rules..........what is this crapola about official forum policy is that every one is civil and genteel and all that shit, with no name calling, blah blah blah........and yet she freely chooses to ignore what posters call Brian because of what he posts! And, according to Ol' blondie, she's only written one nasty comment! And that was under duress cause she saw a(n) (apparent) jewish baby/toddler shot in the head. I reckon she didn't bother to look at the entrails or flat head of rachel corrie after blondie's friends used the bulldozer on her. But then, IIRC, Ol' blondie opined that Rachel got what she deserved for standing up in protest. There are certainly a bunch of wimps, eunuchs, and girly men and dike wimmen hanging out over there, it seems to me. It seems like they have hooks thru their noses and are led along the group think path like a bull is led via a leadrope with a clasp thru the nose ring--makes them rather mild and compliant with a gentle 'movement' of the rope.
#32. To: Brian S, Neil McIver (#16)
no way..he's here now, with those who really appreciate him, where he belongs. ;)
#33. To: Elliott Jackalope (#30)
CD baby "http://cdbaby.com/" seems to share that philosophy. They got a lot of music over there I never heard, too.
I'm all about new bands doing new music. There are so many acts out there giving their music away for free, just hoping that people will download and listen to their stuff. Why buy corporate owned music when there's so many great bands out there giving it away for free?
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#34. To: christine (#4)
Well I guess Aaron thinks he's doing his big gay lord's work. Whatever... Report me to Homeland Security. I'm just another idiot posting ideas, and what not. I guess he'll go around the bend, when he sees the episode of Penn and Teller's Bullshit that focuses on Gun Control. Aaron and others like it, are just traitors who will sell you out for a better place in society. They have no truth in their hearts, no morality, and absolutely no loyalty except to themselves. If only there was a way to put a big old fat RFID Chip with a big fat label on their foreheads that says "LIAR, SELLOUT, BETRAYER". But that's only if we lived in a perfect world.
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#35. To: christine, robin, diana (#4)
Now THIS is rich. O I went to LP, be back in a few minutes, got to take a shower.
#36. To: Esso (#0)
Aaron posted on 2006-02-02 16:43:21 ET Reply Trace BOO!
They scare me.
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
Seems like nepotisum.
n the Old Testament Aaron was the older brother of Moses and the first high priest of the Israelites.
#38. To: tom007 (#36)
Aaron scares me.
#39. To: tom007 (#37)
Look at the bright side. Tomorrow is Saturday. Aaron won't be posting.
#40. To: Elliott Jackalope (#23)
You owe me a new monitor, etc.
They could donate the proceeds to charity, and call the new act "Who Cares".
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#38)
I guess he should.
Aaron scares me.
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#38)
I'll bet.
Aaron scares me.
#43. To: Jethro Tull (#38)
Aaron scares me.
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#44. To: Dakmar (#43)
what does it mean?
Mr Rumsfeld said the emergence of populist leaders through elections in Latin American was "worrisome".
#45. To: christine (#4)
See? I told you there was more publicity in just not renewing TOS4Truth. (even if it was a bit after the fact...)
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser
#46. To: robin (#44)
It has something to do with pinball...
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#47. To: Dakmar (#46)
So this is how they decide foreign policy? Playing pinball?
Mr Rumsfeld said the emergence of populist leaders through elections in Latin American was "worrisome".
#48. To: robin (#47)
Something about a messiah, destruction. I try to shock some sense into them.
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#49. To: robin (#44)
It looks like an ancient interpretation of the life cycle of the liver fluke...
Government blows, and that which governs least blows least...
#50. To: Neil McIver (#45)
laughing....
#51. To: Brian S (#11)
"Shouldn't be long now"...indeed! Hmm not Goldi she's the forum queen..no that was trace.. :P
Getting crazy over there. Even the Forum Princess appears to be off her "meds"...
#52. To: Axenolith (#49)
Government blows, and that which governs least blows least... Axenolith posted on 2006-02-03 22:28:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply I'm going with that, or the malaria reproductive cycle.
It looks like an ancient interpretation of the life cycle of the liver fluke...
#53. To: christine (#4)
Those people on LP SURE change their names a lot. Now that's the sign of a REAL legitimate forum. Yup. It's just a all-round REAL legitimate type place.
#54. To: Esso (#0)
Homeland Security: the same guys that ran FEMA's response to the hurricanes. All right, fellow miscreants! We ain't got a chance, see? The Homeland Security coppers, they're the same guys that pulled off that miraculous rescue of New Orleans. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
I've already reported the forum to the office of Homeland Security.
#55. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#53)
CP2
Those people on LP SURE change their names a lot.
#56. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, Esso, Jethro Tull, Dakmar, Brian S, ALL (#54)
Aaron's probably made sure we've got our very own.
Appearing on page A5, the story said the federal government had awarded a $385 million contract for the construction of "temporary detention facilities."
#57. To: Dakmar, Esso (#2)
Why thank you for the compliment. I'll keep that in mind.
I saw a little of that thread earlier, all those people except BrianS are nuttier than shithouse rats.
#58. To: robin (#44)
It's the Tree of Life, which is supposed to represent the ten manifestations of God in our Universe. It is also a blueprint to the human soul, as that is what is meant by that passage in Genesis that states Man was created in God's likeness. It's the soul that it was talking about, not the physical form.
what does it mean?
#59. To: christine (#56)
I can't understand why'd he'd do such a stupid thing if he really meant what he said. When I first noticed that post of his, I thought he was joking.
Aaron's probably made sure we've got our very own.
#60. To: christine (#6)
The truth actually scares many now. Absolutely Orwellian. They can't even understand the positions on issues here. Unable to think for themselves. First reaction- call fed govt to destroy 'illegal' thought. Republicans call fed govt and demand our individual rights be taken away. It shocks me everyday that this is really happening in the US.
The Palies are depraved beyond redemption, and they should all rot in hell. Their flesh should bubble up in boils, and pus should ooze from them; their eyes should burst, and the blood run down their oozing pathetic faces. - Goldi Lox Anti-terrorism training is indoctrination into the zionist worldview
#61. To: christine (#32)
I finally feel that I'm where I belong too, Thanks Chrissy. ;c) (If I do build my own place one day it will be a lot like a mixture of this place and PL.)
#62. To: FormerLurker (#57)
You're welcome. :) Honest, I didn't remember seeing you there.
Why thank you for the compliment. I'll keep that in mind.
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#63. To: Bayonne (#60)
it does me too!
It shocks me everyday that this is really happening in the US.
#64. To: Esso (#0)
FREEDOM4UM Here is where they gather. I've already reported the forum to the office of Homeland Security. They scare me. Aaron posted on 2006-02-02 16:43:21 ET Reply Trace What a freaking idiot!
97. To: WhiteSands, Brian S (#53)
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#65. To: Jethro Tull, Elliott Jackalope, Dakmar (#24)
Yeah, maybe a quarter ounce of coke would bring Jerry back to life. And then there's Robert Plant and Jimmy Page. A gallon of some good Scotch would prime the pump with Robert, but Page you would need top pump him up with some good China white to get him motivated. And, I saw some damn good hooters shots at Plant's show once. ROTFLOL!
Hmmmm....we could dig up Jerry Garcia and team him with Peter Best and call them "The Best of the Dead"
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#66. To: FormerLurker (#58)
That's not what I got taught when I was a kid going to Sunday school. But then again, the teachings of Christianity have become so confused and confusing that it's little wonder that nobody really believes in it any longer. Oh sure, people are supposedly more religious than ever before, yet I never see any Christians out on the streets giving aid and comfort to the legions of homeless people I see every day. They're too busy driving their cars past them while talking on their cell phones to notice or care. If they really believed in the teachings of Jesus they would be swarming the homeless with offers of aid, handing over food and providing shelter while teaching the word, but instead they rush past on their way to work or on their way home or on the way to the shopping mall. Churches are no longer places of worship and contemplation, they are social gatherings where people network and show off their new clothes and their new cars, while the preacher/minister/poobah at the altar exhorts the faithful to contribute towards construction of the new playroom for their kiddies or a new roof for the auxillery building. This is what happens when a society's faith dies.
It's the soul that it was talking about, not the physical form.
| Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#67. To: rowdee (#31)
Yeah, I was fishing around and found this article on El Pee. You might like to look at it.
There are certainly a bunch of wimps, eunuchs, and girly men and dike wimmen hanging out over there, it seems to me. It seems like they have hooks thru their noses and are led along the group think path like a bull is led via a leadrope with a clasp thru the nose ring--makes them rather mild and compliant with a gentle 'movement' of the rope.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#68. To: BTP Holdings (#67)
Geez..yes...that sentence should win some sort of Pulitzer Prize.
Resurrected from the catacombs of lunacy and human wickedness past, mutating to the dictates of malice and corruption present, becoming the oxygen by which tyrants thrive, the voices by which hate prospers and the muscle by which the worst in the human condition grows, the army of fascism, birthed by brainwashed conditioning and bred in ignorance, unwillingly serves the masters who have created it, becoming its own worst enemy, the force that will self implode upon the evisceration of the freedoms, rights and democracy it took for granted.
In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.
#69. To: BTP Holdings (#64)
For the high and heinous crime of being American?
Here is where they gather. I've already reported the forum to the office of Homeland Security. They scare me.
In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.
#70. To: FormerLurker (#58)
And also the mind's ability to create. What man can create, man can also destroy. The creative capacity of the mind of man is indeed a double edge sword.
that is what is meant by that passage in Genesis that states Man was created in God's likeness. It's the soul that it was talking about, not the physical form.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#71. To: BTP Holdings (#65)
Maybe it's me. I've read Aaron's comments and they seem to be those of many on LP. So what's the bitch? If he really wanted to give this forum trouble, he'd have reported us to the ADL. They direct Homeland Security. BTW, did Goldi object? Nah...Aaron is a soulmate.
#72. To: Jethro Tull, ALL (#71)
yeah, no kidding. looked at the news links on LP's homepage lately?
#73. To: wbales (#68)
And this one the bot, joe_the_aroma, disagreed with. Did you see dog's response? Does intellectual annihilation fit as a description?
The reality of what the United States has been since its inception, an Evil Empire laying waste to billions of world citizens and their lives, is never taught to the very citizens now affected by the blowback inherent in perpetuating human malice throughout the globe.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#74. To: christine (#72)
I saw. The link to the Hava Nagila Daily was especially painful.
#75. To: Esso, christine, wbales, Jethro Tull, Bayonne, Eoghan, tom007, robin, rowdee, Neil McIver, Diana, Dakmar (#0)
Don't miss this. And don't miss the reply right it above to Goldi and Brian S. http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=127494&Disp=154#C154
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#76. To: BTP Holdings, FormerLurker (#75)
I'll be interested to see how Aaron replies to you and dog.
#77. To: Brian S (#16)
I appreciate the sentiments, Brian, but I don't miss it. Running a forum and trying to be fair to all sides is a thankless task. Arbitrating disputes takes a lot of hours that go uncompensated, and then when you're done, half the people slam you for your final decision. I was at the point of hardly ever voicing my own opinion on matters since managing the site took first precedence, and I decided my own energy was better spent elsewhere. It was a pessimistic time for me also, when I didn't see any real hope that my efforts would make the smallest difference in bringing attention to the importance of liberty. Those naysayers who favor the invasion of Iraq and mindlessly chearlead GWB simply because he's an official member of the Republican team and an anti-democrat regardless of how truely unRepublican his policies are, deserve to wallow in their ignorance. If they are being paid to desecrate their Rights, then they deserve to live without them. People are free to think and decide how they will, and are also free to decide who they will and will not listen to. If they choose poorly, then in the end, it's their own fault.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser
#78. To: Starwind (#77)
Makes me want to do some more BE counts, which can be done from the LC page. To date, Badeye has posted about 59,300 times on LP. That out of a total pool of about 1.593 million posts. He's responsible for about 3.7% of LP activity, which is about 1 post in 27 over the life of LP. And that's not accounting for the time he wasn't posting, such as prior to his arrival and the time I had banned him. He only had about 20,000 posts when I banned him so he's added about twice that count since returning in about 18 months time, which is an average of about 106 times every business day. The ability of someone to do this really highlights a flaw in the free speech forum theory, which namely is the assumption that no participant could possibly have the resources to post these dramatic counts or that people would only post when they have something meaningful to say. A software solution would be to limit everyone's posting to a certain amount per day or, perhaps, week. The weekly approach would allow for spikes on particular days when something significant happens. Starwind, I thought you'd particularly appreciate BE's latest stats...
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser
#79. To: Neil McIver (#78)
He's responsible for about 3.7% of LP activity, which is about 1 post in 27 over the life of LP. And that's not accounting for the time he wasn't posting, such as prior to his arrival and the time I had banned him. He only had about 20,000 posts when I banned him so he's added about twice that count since returning in about 18 months time, which is an average of about 106 times every business day. Astounding for someone who isnt the site owner.. isnt it? And considering he doesnt post on weekends..
Makes me want to do some more BE counts, which can be done from the LC page. To date, Badeye has posted about 59,300 times on LP. That out of a total pool of about 1.593 million posts.
#80. To: Dakmar (#62)
No problem Dak. Wasn't sure at first though... :)
Honest, I didn't remember seeing you there.
#81. To: christine (#76)
I'd be interested myself. In looking over Aaron's posting history, he is certainly on the bot side of most topics. Maybe I can enlighten him... :)
I'll be interested to see how Aaron replies to you and dog.
#82. To: Esso (#0)
Aaron can't even spell god right. He spells it, g*d. What an idiot.
#83. To: Splitends, Flintlock (#82)
Is this the Aaron than has a website about his rod?
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#84. To: FormerLurker (#80)
Ask anyone, if I didn't like you I'd say so, none of this subtle omission shit for me. :)
No problem Dak. Wasn't sure at first though... :)
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#85. To: Elliott Jackalope (#66)
That's not what I was taught in Catholic school either. But over the years, I've done some reading into various facets of ancient history and religion, including Judaism and the "hidden" knowledge of that faith. The original Hebrew doesn't mean exactly the same thing as what is written in the translated text of the Old Testament, and is further clarified by the unwritten book of the Jewish faith, the Kabballah. The Kabballah provides the means to understand the true meanings of the Hebrew text, which is significantly different than any modern understanding of the Bible. Basically, in addition to that passage in Genesis I mention, the Hebrew text uses a plural form of the word God, where the final meaning is that God is both masculine and feminine, and that is why we are created in that manner, along with every other living being in existance. It has to do with the duality of Nature, the positive and negative, the light and dark, the Alpha and the Omega if you will. One school of thought is that when the masculine and feminine aspects of God unite, a new Universe is created. So our entire Universe is a child of God. It's certainly not something most Jews would believe I'm sure, but there are some Jewish scholars that do.
That's not what I got taught when I was a kid going to Sunday school.
#86. To: All (#85)
For instance, where in the Bible the passage states, "God created Man in His own Image", the original Hebrew text states, "God created Man in Their own Image"...
Basically, in addition to that passage in Genesis I mention, the Hebrew text uses a plural form of the word God, where the final meaning is that God is both masculine and feminine, and that is why we are created in that manner, along with every other living being in existance. It has to do with the duality of Nature, the positive and negative, the light and dark, the Alpha and the Omega if you will.
#87. To: Splitends (#82)
That's how Jews spell God, as in Hebrew, God is spelt YHVH (using the Hebrew characters instead of their English representations), where the vowels are missing. The vowels are missing because supposedly, if the word was ever pronounced with the vowels, it would cause the very Earth to shake. So in reverence, they leave out the vowel of the word God when writting it in English.
Aaron can't even spell god right. He spells it, g*d.
#88. To: christine, FormerLurker (#76)
I thought it was interesting that dog posted that image which is basically taken from the old Soviet system of reporting on your neighbors and being a spy for the gooberment. If I recall, it's nearly an exact copy. And it is also what the Hitler Youth was involved with, and which the D.A.R.E. program follows, to turn the kids into snitches who rat out on every little thing to the authorities.
I'll be interested to see how Aaron replies to you and dog.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#89. To: BTP Holdings (#70)
That is yet another duality.
And also the mind's ability to create. What man can create, man can also destroy. The creative capacity of the mind of man is indeed a double edge sword.
#90. To: FormerLurker (#85)
Why turn to the Kabbalah to understand these texts? There are bibles that give exact translations .. why turn to the occult?
e original Hebrew doesn't mean exactly the same thing as what is written in the translated text of the Old Testament, and is further clarified by the unwritten book of the Jewish faith, the Kabballah. The Kabballah provides the means to understand the true meanings of the Hebrew text, which is significantly different than any modern understanding of the Bible.
#91. To: Neil McIver, Starwind (#78)
Well what a busy little beaver. 106 a day. One-hundred Six. Per day. And I'm not sure but I think Starwind's study placed almost all of those M-F 0800 - 1700 more or less. Looks like his "business" is posting on the internet.
which is an average of about 106 times every business day.
In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.
#92. To: Zipporah (#90)
The Bible is not an exact translation, where the original Hebrew text of the Torah translated to English is significantly different than any version of Bible. The Old Testament is a combination of several generations of translations of the Torah. The first translation was to Greek, and became known as the Septuagint. It was widely understood that it wasn't a very accurate translation. The second translation was that performed by Saint Jerome, where he translated the Hebrew text to Latin. That became known as the Vulgate, and was the basis of the Old Testament for the Roman Catholic Church, which decided which translations would become known as the Bible. Over time, it was translated to German and French, and then to English. But in addition to all of that, it is said that even the Hebrew text is not the original text, as during a period of time that the Jews were an occupied people before the time of the New Testament, Hebrew as a language was basically lost. The ancient rabbis guarded the Torah and were the only ones that remembered how to read the text. When the occupation was lifted, over time a newer dialect of Hebrew came about. In order for the Torah to be understood, the original Hebrew had to be translated to the newer Hebrew, but the rabbis decided that the true text of the Torah could easily be misused by those who were profane, so they wrote it in such a way as to say one thing on the surface for the masses, and another true hidden meaning for the enlightened. The key to the hidden meaning is an understanding of Gematria, which is the science of decoding Hebrew for its deeper meaning. That is part of Kabballah, where all rabbis have an understanding of that. You are confusing non-Jewish occult societies use of that knowledge with the actual Jewish Kabballah. Here's a link if you're interested;Why turn to the Kabbalah to understand these texts? There are bibles that give exact translations .. why turn to the occult?
#93. To: wbales (#91)
*Average* 106 per day. Over the long haul (years), that's huge. Maybe 100 is his daily quota. Yes, that's correct, holiday's excepted. He denies it with seeming passion. Which means absolutely nothing.
Well what a busy little beaver. 106 a day. One-hundred Six. Per day.
And I'm not sure but I think Starwind's study placed almost all of those M-F 0800 - 1700 more or less.
Looks like his "business" is posting on the internet.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser
#94. To: FormerLurker (#92)
The Old Testament is a combination of several generations of translations of the Torah. The first translation was to Greek, and became known as the Septuagint. It was widely understood that it wasn't a very accurate translation. The second translation was that performed by Saint Jerome, where he translated the Hebrew text to Latin. That became known as the Vulgate, and was the basis of the Old Testament for the Roman Catholic Church, which decided which translations would become known as the Bible. Over time, it was translated to German and French, and then to English. But in addition to all of that, it is said that even the Hebrew text is not the original text, as during a period of time that the Jews were an occupied people before the time of the New Testament, Hebrew as a language was basically lost. The ancient rabbis guarded the Torah and were the only ones that remembered how to read the text. When the occupation was lifted, over time a newer dialect of Hebrew came about. In order for the Torah to be understood, the original Hebrew had to be translated to the newer Hebrew, but the rabbis decided that the true text of the Torah could easily be misused by those who were profane, so they wrote it in such a way as to say one thing on the surface for the masses, and another true hidden meaning for the enlightened. The key to the hidden meaning is an understanding of Gematria, which is the science of decoding Hebrew for its deeper meaning. That is part of Kabballah, where all rabbis have an understanding of that. You are confusing non-Jewish occult societies use of that knowledge with the actual Jewish Kabballah. Here's a link if you're interested; To begin what I was referring to are not the translations such as the King James etc.. The Kabbalah I am aware of it.. it is totally extrabiblical/torah etc.. on the same plane as the Talmud. Jesus of course warned of these things. "neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men." (Mark 7:8) "and why do you yourselves transgress the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition?" (Matthew 15:3) Matthew 15:7"You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you: 15:8`THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME. 15:9`BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.' " "thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that." (Mark 7:13) Mark 7:9 "And He said unto them, Full well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition." I am not confusing non Jewish occult societies at all.. the Talmud is Jewish is it not? ... And Jesus had very harsh words for those who put the jewish people under the law of men.. the wisdom of the sages.. he called those who did white washed tombs full of dead man's bones.. And He called them hypocrites, vipers and liars..Luke 11:43"Woe to you Pharisees! For you love the chief seats in the synagogues and the respectful greetings in the market places. 11:44 "Woe to you! For you are like concealed tombs, and the people who walk over them are unaware of it." And Paul said of them: Romans 10:1Brethren, my heart's desire and my prayer to God for them is for their salvation. 10:2For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge. 10:3For not knowing about God's righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. So the path you are taking won't give you the answers you are seeking.
The Bible is not an exact translation, where the original Hebrew text of the Torah translated to English is significantly different than any version of Bible.
#95. To: Zipporah (#94)
You are free to believe whatever you wish. God bless.
#96. To: Zipporah (#94)
I feel the need to make one last comment on this matter. The words you recite are the words of men, not of God. The only way of knowing God is to seek God, not to rely on words written about him.
#97. To: FormerLurker (#96)
SO you are saying Jesus was just a man like any other? Is that your belief?
#98. To: FormerLurker (#96)
One question.. are you not seeking the words of men with the Kabbalah..how is that path going to bring you knowledge of God since men have created that path?
The words you recite are the words of men, not of God.
#99. To: Neil McIver (#93)
If the guy posts with that frequency ... it must click ten times more to read and view.
Maybe 100 is his daily quota.
#100. To: buckeroo (#99)
Maybe he has a list of copy and paste replies .. and adds a bit for the 'personal' touch :P
If the guy posts with that frequency ... it must click ten times more to read and view.
#101. To: Zipporah (#100)
Spiders really work in today's high tech field of political discussion channels, upon www, ARC, BB, Usenet, IRC and so forth. You can slap these scripts onto any computer which forwards results to YOU over the internet, YOU the puppeteer; thus permitting more invasion upon any forum since the actual discussion(s) are outside of the known domain aliases without your IP addy. I should know.
#102. To: Dakmar (#83)
Aaron's rod-on?
Is this the Aaron than has a website about his rod?
#103. To: buckeroo (#101)
I should know. really??
Spiders really work in today's high tech field of political discussion channels, upon www, ARC, BB, Usenet, IRC and so forth. You can slap these scripts onto any computer which forwards results to YOU over the internet, YOU the puppeteer; thus permitting more invasion upon any forum since the actual discussion(s) are outside of the known domain aliases without your IP addy.
#104. To: Zipporah (#103)
Sure. For many, they are called "Web crawlers." Lots of web crawlers ... you can think of them as spam as within you internet e-mail. Nothing to it.
really??
#105. To: Jethro Tull (#102)
We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W
#106. To: Zipporah (#98)
I do not rely on the Kabballah, I merely reference it as a means to find the path to God. I myself believe in God, but don't believe in any one religion, as religion is just a rigid set of beliefs that are taught by men, and conceived by men. From what I've discovered, there's a common thread throughout most of the world's religions, yet none of those religions agree on what the truth actually is. I HAVE found however, that the Kabballistic path allows one to understand what is real, and what is not. Back when I was young, I was raised as a Roman Catholic. As I got older, I questioned the validity of its teachings, looking into various historical accounts as they relate to church teachings. I discovered that although historically, Christians proclaimed themselves THE religion that had the monopoly on the truth, they acted in such a way as to being that claim into serious doubt. Look at the horrific things that were done in the past, such as the Inquisition, the witch trials, the Crusades, etc. As the prime teaching of Christ was the Golden Rule, and the very concept of calling oneself a Christian is that one attempts to emulate Christ, where one is supposed to treat others as one would wish to be treated, and to not pass judgement upon others, I found that to be in conflict with how many if not most of those people actually lived their lives. I began to look into more esoteric books and such, and found what I believe to be the key to finding the truth of it all. The fact is, Christianity is based upon the belief that the Jewish teachings were in fact spot on, where the Father of Jesus is the God of the Jewish faith. One cannot truly understand Jesus if one does not delve into the teachings of that faith, much of which is nothing at all as most people believe it to be. The Kabballah is as much a part of the Jewish faith as anything else, and is more of a guide to spirituality than any other book related to that faith. It could not exist without the Torah, but the truth contained in the Torah cannot be fully appreciated without the knowledge contained within the Kabballah.
One question.. are you not seeking the words of men with the Kabbalah..how is that path going to bring you knowledge of God since men have created that path?
#107. To: Zipporah (#97)
I don't believe he was just an ordinary man like any other. I also don't believe he is God himself. We are ALL children of God, so the claim that Jesus is the ONLY son of God is impossible. It is thought that Jesus was an Essene Scholar, where the Essenes were the keepers of the knowledge of the Kabballah. The primary goal of the Kabballist is to attain his Higher Self, where he is in direct spiritual contact with that part of him that resides in the Higher Realm, that which is the realm of the Divine. If one were ever to attain that goal, one would be one with the Divine, as such, would be able to do things ordinary men would not be able to. God's will would work through that person, and that person would be able to do things seen as miraculous. It is thought that Jesus accomplished that, as such, he performed God's will on earth.
SO you are saying Jesus was just a man like any other? Is that your belief?
#108. To: FormerLurker (#106)
The fact is, Christianity is based upon the belief that the Jewish teachings were in fact spot on, where the Father of Jesus is the God of the Jewish faith. One cannot truly understand Jesus if one does not delve into the teachings of that faith, much of which is nothing at all as most people believe it to be. < -- on this I agree.. to a point. Yes if you do not understand the law you cannot fully understand who Jesus is and what He came to do.. The Kabballah is as much a part of the Jewish faith as anything else, and is more of a guide to spirituality than any other book related to that faith. It could not exist without the Torah, but the truth contained in the Torah cannot be fully appreciated without the knowledge contained within the Kabballah. < -- on this I disagree.. Kabbalah is as is the Talmud.. and the Torah can be fully appreciated and understood fully w/o the Talmud or Kabbalah.. in fact IMO it convalutes it's message.
#109. To: FormerLurker (#107)
The primary goal of the Kabballist is to attain his Higher Self, where he is in direct spiritual contact with that part of him that resides in the Higher Realm, that which is the realm of the Divine. If one were ever to attain that goal, one would be one with the Divine, as such, would be able to do things ordinary men would not be able to. God's will would work through that person, and that person would be able to do things seen as miraculous. It is thought that Jesus accomplished that, as such, he performed God's will on earth. There is a diffference in one saying they are the 'son' of God and one saying they are a child of God.. based on the Torah.. It has been speculated that Jesus was w/o any proof of course..which IMO is an attack on who He himself said He was.. and why He came...
I don't believe he was just an ordinary man like any other. I also don't believe he is God himself. We are ALL children of God, so the claim that Jesus is the ONLY son of God is impossible. It is thought that Jesus was an Essene Scholar, where the Essenes were the keepers of the knowledge of the Kabballah.
#110. To: Zipporah (#97)
Here's some interesting reading for you;
#111. To: Zipporah (#109)
Neither you or I have any idea of what Jesus truly said, as we were not there. We have to rely on some rather dubious accounts of his life, and either blindly believe them on faith alone, or look into their historical origins. It is without doubt true that there was a Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Is is not clear as to what he said, as he never directly wrote anything that we know of, we have just the supposed words of his disciples.
It has been speculated that Jesus was w/o any proof of course..which IMO is an attack on who He himself said He was.. and why He came...
#112. To: Zipporah (#108)
I suppose we'll just have to agree that we disagree.
< -- on this I disagree.. Kabbalah is as is the Talmud.. and the Torah can be fully appreciated and understood fully w/o the Talmud or Kabbalah.. in fact IMO it convalutes it's message.
#113. To: FormerLurker (#111)
It is without doubt true that there was a Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Is is not clear as to what he said, as he never directly wrote anything that we know of, we have just the supposed words of his disciples. Now are you just referring to the words in the gospels what of the what Paul wrote and the others? What of Josephus who was not one of the disciples? Have you ever read any of his writings?
Neither you or I have any idea of what Jesus truly said, as we were not there. We have to rely on some rather dubious accounts of his life, and either blindly believe them on faith alone, or look into their historical origins.
#114. To: FormerLurker (#112)
A question.. why is it that you think that the Talmud and the Kabbalah is more valid than the writings of the disciples? Or am I mistaken in coming to that conclusion?
I suppose we'll just have to agree that we disagree.
#115. To: Zipporah (#114)
The Kabballah is ancient Essene knowledge that predates most Biblical writings, as demonstrated by the Dead Sea Scrolls. I haven't much experience with the Talmud, but from what I understand, it is basically a collection of commentaries that may or may not be valid. In order to understand the reasons why I view the relatively recent writings of the New Testament as dubious, you need to look into the historical origins of those writings. I can give you an excellent link if you're seriously interested.
A question.. why is it that you think that the Talmud and the Kabbalah is more valid than the writings of the disciples? Or am I mistaken in coming to that conclusion?
#116. To: Neil McIver (#78)
BE refuses to do thing like providing links that would slow down how many times he can post. Almost all of his posts are very short. He seems to have a strong interest in posting as many times as possible. If his interest isn't pecuniary, I don't know what it would be.
#117. To: FormerLurker (#115)
In order to understand the reasons why I view the relatively recent writings of the New Testament as dubious, you need to look into the historical origins of those writings. I can give you an excellent link if you're seriously interested. Valid in what sense? The Talmud is basically commentary on the torah. I dont recall how many volumes but it is extensive. Much is from the time of the Babylonian captivity .. What is the link you're referring to?
The Kabballah is ancient Essene knowledge that predates most Biblical writings, as demonstrated by the Dead Sea Scrolls. I haven't much experience with the Talmud, but from what I understand, it is basically a collection of commentaries that may or may not be valid.
#118. To: Zipporah (#117)
WHAT EVERY CHRISTIAN NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT THE NEW TESTAMENT OVERALL VIEW OF THE NEW TESTAMENT DOCUMENTS AN UNBIASED LOOK INTO THE HISTORY OF THE NEW TESTAMENT A HONEST LOOK INTO THE HISTORY OF THE NEW TESTAMENT...BY WHOM AND WHERE?
What is the link you're referring to?
#119. To: FormerLurker (#118)
Thanks for the links .. all from the same site.. they're hard to read due to the background but I'll give them a read and get back to you.
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