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Title: No German – no money: Austria to fine refugees for refusal to integrate
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URL Source: https://www.rt.com/news/329856-austria-fine-refugees-integration/
Published: Jan 22, 2016
Author: staff
Post Date: 2016-01-22 18:58:57 by Ada
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Views: 403
Comments: 44

Refugees who refuse to attend special integration training courses in Austria as a part of a new program may see their social benefits cut, Austrian Foreign Minister Sebastian Kurz said.

“Those who are not willing to learn German, who do not want to be part of the labor market, who are not ready to attend an integration course, will face social benefits cuts,” Kurz said at the economic forum in Davos, adding that “it is an absolutely necessary next step.”

“The migrant inflow should be reduced but those, who do have the right to get asylum, should be integrated into society,” the minister added.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Social benefits cuts, my ass; send those creatures back to the ME where they belong.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-01-22   19:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Syrians are in Europe because NATO is trying to regime change its elected leaders. Some of them at least are legitimate refugees.

Ada  posted on  2016-01-22   19:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When none of the mulim countries will take them, why should Europe (and we) be insane enough to do so?

What a freaking disaster this is!

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-01-22   19:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No German – no money

Ich bin ein Refugee!

StraitGate  posted on  2016-01-22   19:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When none of the muslim countries will take them, why should Europe (and we) be insane enough to do so?

I thought about a witty or wise response and came up empty.

Why indeed?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-01-22   19:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Arbeit Macht Frei....

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-01-22   19:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When none of the mulim countries will take them, why should Europe (and we) be insane enough to do so?

Maybe because Europe is more responsible for the refugees than the Muslim countries are. Turkey and Saudi excepted.

Syria itself took in many Iraqi refugees after we invaded that country. Do you remember Riverbend? She and her family ended up in Syria as refugees.

Ada  posted on  2016-01-22   19:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ich bin ein Refugee!

I hope you and everyone here never becomes one. Avoid it at all costs.

Ada  posted on  2016-01-22   19:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I do. US and our euro minions have destroyed the ME and have created this humanitarian debacle of all times.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-01-22   19:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I hope you and everyone here never becomes one. Avoid it at all costs.

But if -- God forbid -- I or anyone else here ever does become one, I hope that we will be more noble than those despicable hordes who are invading and destroying European civilization as we speak. I have experienced several seasons of downtroddeness (admittedly not so dire that it would truly qualify me for refugee status by any reasonable definition of the word), but I have never felt the need to burn down a building, grope and rape random women, or riot against my benefactors.

StraitGate  posted on  2016-01-22   20:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Arbeit Macht Frei....

I happen to be reading David Irving's Hitler's War at the moment, so that came as a shock.

I was no fan of Hitler before I started reading, and with every page I'm even less of one. What he did to the Poles was absolutely barbaric. That's as far as I've gotten.

StraitGate  posted on  2016-01-22   20:27:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

HA! That was a long, long time ago. Nowadays their punishment is getting say €190 instead of €200 per week for refusing to learn 25 words of the vernacular and that not all European women want to be raped.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-01-22   21:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I hope that we will be more noble than those despicable hordes who are invading and destroying European civilization as we speak.

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"Hordes" is a key word. There are just too many of them and, of course, not all are political refugees but rather opportunists seeking an easier life. Much like the Mexicans who cross over because things are better here than in Mexico. Or at least used to be. Some young males misbehave but the majority just want to live quietly.

There are provacateurs and worse in the horde. However, I don't trust the MSM to report honestly on anything and this is no exception. From what I read, though, a lot of the bad behavior is from immigrants who have been here a long time--Moroccans, for instance.

Ada  posted on  2016-01-23   6:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I was no fan of Hitler before I started reading, and with every page I'm even less of one. What he did to the Poles was absolutely barbaric. That's as far as I've gotten.

Read Hitler's War as well as The War Path and Churchill's War and never understood why Irving is supposed to be pro Nazi. True, he dislikes Churchill more than he dislikes Hitler but he puts forth a good case for that dislike.

Ada  posted on  2016-01-23   6:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Austria to fine refugees for refusal to integrate

I wonder if they will be forced to wear Lederhosen?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lederhosen

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-01-23   6:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

but I have never felt the need to burn down a building, grope and rape random women, or riot against my benefactors.

During WW II, a deal was made to allow the Soviets to capture and occupy Berlin. Along the way the Soviet troops were raping woman as fast as they could find them. (U.S. troops had already advanced across the Elbe River and had to withdraw.)

When they killed MLK, Jr. in Memephis, After the news hit, the blacks burned down half the West Side of Chicago.

I knew a guy that was a guard at the Cook County jail. He told me there was this black guard and since he had a good job he was able to get a mortgage on a 4-flat. He lived on the 2nd floor. When the news hit, they cancelled the leaves for the guards. He opened the door to go to work and there was a black guy standing there. He was ready to light a Molotov cocktail. He said to him, "What you think you're doing?" The black guy said, "I'll show whitey. I'm gonna burn down this building." The Deputy pulled out his pistol and killed him right where he was standing. My friend said to him, "How are you going to explain that?" The guard said, "When they come along and pick him up, it's just another dead nigger." ROTFLOL!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-01-23   7:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

US and our euro minions have destroyed the ME

Even the French have sent the aircraft carrier Charles De Gaul to the Eastern Mediterranean. The Syrians (part of the old French Mandate) have warned them not to do so at their own risk. Apparently, the Syrians have some cruise missiles and are prepared to use them. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-01-23   7:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I wonder if they will be forced to wear Lederhosen?

Would serve those rapists right.

Ada  posted on  2016-01-23   7:55:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

never understood why Irving is supposed to be pro Nazi

That was the same thought that struck me soon after I started reading.

I suspect that his detractors hate him simply because he dispassionately holds to the truth -- the whole unvarnished truth -- especially the inconvenient truth that no one has ever been able to prove with documentation that Hitler ever ordered the wholesale extermination (or liquidation) of the Jews as a class.

StraitGate  posted on  2016-01-23   10:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Somewhere in Irving's histories he states that Hitler found out about the exterminations in 1943 but, charisterically, did nothing about them. He wasn't much of an administrator and let his subordinates do their thing.

Ada  posted on  2016-01-23   10:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I was no fan of Hitler before I started reading, and with every page I'm even less of one. What he did to the Poles was absolutely barbaric.

I am no fan of Hitler either (Lord knows what some people today would do without him) but what was done in Poland before the invasion was barbaric also.

The policy of "Polonization" begun during the time of Pilsudski went into high gear after his death. The Poland of 1918-1939 was quite nearly one-third minority. Polish language, culture, religion, education and administration were imposed on minorities by force. Ukranians, Byelorussians, Lithuanians, Germans, Jews (the list goes on) were forced to submit to assimilation at the point of a bayonet. Political dissenters were arrested, sent to concentration camps and subject to abuse and torture. Some journalists were even given death sentences which were commuted imprisonment due to international outrage. The pressure on minority groups was so strong that some Jews fled to Germany to get out of the way.

A lot of folks were not unhappy to see the Poles get their butts kicked by the Wehrmacht.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2016-01-23   12:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Excellent minicourse, Randge. I really really want to think of all these countries as virtuous, but with the long history of woe between 'em it's complicated. The word empire has an august, worthy ring to it, but any country that's ever had one got it through brutality and grand larceny, even genocide.

Lech Walensa spoke at the little flyspeck "university" here and started his summary of Poland saying "it had the great misfortune to be situated between Germany and Russia." My Bulgarian pal on the other hand is imune to any anti-Russian or - Soviet animus -- his countrymen "are forever grateful to them for saving us repelling the Turks".

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-01-23   12:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I really really want to think of all these countries as virtuous,

Due to our education, we all do.

But all these Europeans (East & West) were very bad boys. No exceptions.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2016-01-23   12:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks for that insight. Irving mentions the outrages that were reportedly being committed against ethnic Germans in Poland in 1939 and earlier. And knowing human nature as I do, I can easily believe it.

Hitler was very impressed by the difference between how the Poles treated German POWs and how the Norwegians treated them:

Before his eyes he could already see the autobahn he would build to Trondheim. The Norwegian people deserved it. How utterly they differed from the Poles! Norwegian doctors and nurses had tended the injured until they dropped with exhaustion; the Polish ‘sub-humans’ had jabbed their eyes out. Moved by this comparison, on May 9, Hitler was to give his military commander in Norway an order which began as follows:

"The Norwegian soldier spurned all the cowardly and deceitful methods common to the Poles. He fought with open visor and honourably, and he tended our prisoners and injured properly and to the best of his ability. The civilian population acted similarly. Nowhere did they join in the fighting, and they did all they could for the welfare of our casualties. I have therefore decided in appreciation for this to authorise the liberation of the Norwegian soldiers we took prisoner."

StraitGate  posted on  2016-01-23   13:07:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I wonder if the Catholic/Protestant divide has anything to do with it. Catholic and Orthodox countries have generally been more subject to dictatorship in modern times, and I still cherish the notion that Hitler was basically fighting to save Europe from communism. Since most East Europeans I talk to are still incapable of condemning communism, am guessing Norwegians would have understood much better the quest for libertee.

Or maybe it's a Slavic/Germanic divide (or both). The word "Slav" comes from "slave" of course, and it's a painful irony that the Slavic countries have spent much more time in chains.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-01-23   13:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Before his eyes he could already see the autobahn he would build to Trondheim. The Norwegian people deserved it

Don't know if that happened. However, the Germans did build the railway over the mountains from Oslo to Bergen, something the Norwegians were never able to accomplish.

Ada  posted on  2016-01-23   14:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Entirely Slav vs. Germanic in the case of Poland, Germany, and Norway.

You don't find many Americans who are capable of condemning communism, either. In fact, to even utter the word is to risk being branded a kook. To the generation alive today, communism never existed.

Communism never existed. Fascism and racism are the only real problems in the world today or ever. Hitler was the only really really bad person to ever live. Jews are the only people who ever suffered, and negroes are the only people who were ever slaves. Guns are bad unless wielded by the government. Fluoride is good. Did I miss anything?

StraitGate  posted on  2016-01-23   14:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Communism never existed. Fascism and racism are the only real problems in the world today or ever. Hitler was the only really really bad person to ever live. Jews are the only people who ever suffered, and negroes are the only people who were ever slaves. Guns are bad unless wielded by the government. Fluoride is good. Did I miss anything?

You left out vaccines.

And a few other things, but you're on a roll.

Esso  posted on  2016-01-23   14:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You left out vaccines.

You bring up an excellent point. I shall create a thread in the near future about how to guard against pharma in the water supply in such a way as to ensure you have capability to survive.

Pridie Nones  posted on  2016-01-23   14:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Looking forward to more water purification ideas, thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-01-23   14:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are welcome, Lod. It will be my very first post, too. And the data presented shall be concerned about establishing a methos for pure water in the home for your families continued survival.

Pridie Nones  posted on  2016-01-23   14:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Norwegians

Vidkun Quisling was the nominal head of Norway during the Nazi occupation. So to be known as a Quisling was not necessarily a compliment. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-01-23   15:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Quisling wasn't the only quisling in Norway.

Ada  posted on  2016-01-23   16:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

FIne, but it was the same way back during the USSR. Escapees I'd meet would say nary a word against the big C.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-01-23   19:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Escapees I'd meet would say nary a word against the big C.

That is weird. So it was something other than their communist government, its policies, or the results of its actions that caused them flee?

Maybe they were loathe to denounce their government because their dad or brother was (or had been) in the army? A lot of people here in the USA are like that.

My great grandparents fled the Bolsheviks in Eastern Europe in 1915, and to hear my dad tell it, they didn't have anything good to say about communism.

StraitGate  posted on  2016-01-23   19:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Quisling wasn't the only quisling in Norway.

There were many that went along with the Nazi occupation just to get along better. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-01-23   19:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But did they have anything bad to say, that's the question.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-01-23   20:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think I like Quisling. And Pétain and lots of objects of PC hatred.

The more hated somebody is, the more it's part of the culture, the more a thinking person should start to wonder and investigate. The real malefactors -- serial killers et al -- don't seem to excite any mass revulsion, because of course the system actually loves criminals. But it hates Nazi and collaborators so people dutifully do so too.

They told me about Hitler when I was about 9 years old. Instictiely somehow I felt sorry for him, and said so. Not so for Khrushchev -- it was written on my heart as it were.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-01-23   20:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They got pretty hungry at the end of the war but who didn't. And there was a resistence movement although it was surprise to the Germans. There was a movie called "The Heros of Telemark" who claimed credit for preventing heavy water from getting out of Norway and into Germany,

Ada  posted on  2016-01-23   20:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There was a movie called "The Heros of Telemark"

Strangely, I do remember this movie. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-01-23   20:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

At the end of the war the Germans were preparing to surrender to the Brits when these Norwegians came out of the mountains and said, "No, you surrender to us."

Ada  posted on  2016-01-23   21:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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