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Dead Constitution See other Dead Constitution Articles Title: This State Just Moved To Ban These People From Owning Guns For Good This State Just Moved To Ban These People From Owning Guns For Good Ever hear of the no-fly list? Of course you have, it was a list introduced by DHS and utilized by the TSA to maximize our security both domestically and abroad. The only problem with the no fly list is it’s 100% unconstitutional. That and ending up on this list doesn’t require you to be a criminal, to know criminals, or anything like that. Heck you can be put on the list just because you share the same name as a criminal. The problem with the no fly list is how politicians are trying to use it to keep people from owning guns. You know, violate the 4th amendment so you can violate the second. New York State legislature just put a few pieces of legislation in the works that would keep people on the no fly list (potential non-felons) from owing a gun. Guns.com writes: A set of companion measures introduced in the state legislature would ban those whose name appears on the terror watch lists from having a New York firearms permit. The proposals, one in each chamber, would affect both renewals of existing permits and processing of new ones if the applicant is on the list maintained by the Terrorist Screening Center within the Federal Bureau of Investigation. “If you’re not safe to fly, you’re not safe to have a gun – its common sense,” said sponsor Assemblyman Tom Abinanti, D, Greenburgh, in a statement. “This ‘terror gap’ poses a direct threat to the safety and security of all New Yorkers.” Abinanti proposal, A.8693, requires those being vetted for a permit in the Empire State first have their identities checked against the combined terror watch list as part of their background check for a license to carry, possess or repair firearms. As a permit is required to own many types of guns in the state, should a renewal be refused this would force a gun owner to relinquish their arms. A companion proposal in the state Senate, S.6304, introduced by Sen. Brad Hoylman, D-Manhattan, has identical language. In neighboring Connecticut, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy promised an executive order last month banning the sale of firearms in the state to those on government watch lists. National and local gun rights groups warned of possible litigation against both Malloy and the federal government should the action move forward, citing the order would be a clear “due process” violation of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Nonetheless, this has not stopped lawmakers in other parts of the country from calling for action on similar plans. Inside New York, state Sen. Rob Ortt, R, North Tonawanda, has joined with the regional gun rights group Shooters Committee on Political Education to decry the use of the no-fly list in making decisions about lawful firearms possession. “Citizens have no notice and limited recourse if they are improperly placed on the list,” said Ortt in a joint statement. “It’s annoying to be told you’re unable to enter an aircraft because your name is on a federal no-fly list managed by Washington bureaucrats; and it appears unconstitutional for state police to show up at your house to confiscate your weapons because your name appears on such list.” Introduced earlier this month, both bills have been referred to their respective Codes committees. Being placed on a terror watchlist arbitrarily is one of the worst things our government does to us. Think about how much power the TSA yield and how they have the power to change our lives. It’s abhorrent to think they could use these lists to prevent you from defending yourself. This is the state of America today; where you end up on a watchlist after doing nothing wrond and then legislators want to prevent you from owning a gun. Tell us what you think of this legislation below. Poster Comment: No fly list is unconstitutional and so is the proposed legislation. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
If this does happen, then the DHS will have to release a copy of the no fly list and it will become public. Then a lot of people will be asking WHY AM I ON THE LIST? The question will have to be answered. Since I am on the list, I want to know why? I do know why but I want to hear it from them, DHS.
I have no doubt that I am on the list. Why? Because I am a rabble rouser. I have this tendency to get into people in ways that aggravate them. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
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