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Title: Trump Defeated Himself in Iowa
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URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ru ... -himself/2016/02/02/id/712280/
Published: Feb 2, 2016
Author: Christopher Ruddy
Post Date: 2016-02-02 06:24:40 by BTP Holdings
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Trump Defeated Himself in Iowa Image: Trump Defeated Himself in Iowa By Christopher Ruddy | Tuesday, 02 Feb 2016 12:04 AM Ted Cruz didn’t defeat Donald Trump Monday night in Iowa. Trump defeated himself. I have no doubt that polls showing Trump leading in Iowa – and across the nation – have been largely accurate. Trump is fresh, bold, brash and brave. His message is resonating with millions of Americans. In some ways, he could be starting a Great Awakening in American politics, paving the way for “outsiders” to finally have their voice heard in Washington. If Trump were elected president, it would be historic — the first “Citizen President.” Every president to date has been a politician or general. But Iowa underscores that Trump’s great strengths can turn into fatal weaknesses, and this phenomena will make his gaining the nomination difficult. Here’s why. Trump lost Iowa largely for one reason: he crushed Ben Carson. Remember the likable doctor who was leading in Iowa polls? Trump hit Dr. Ben hard, questioning his integrity and even his medical acumen. Trump, as we know, is a super-effective communicator. Perhaps the best communicator ever fielded in a GOP race. Trump used his verbal powers and eviscerated Carson. Carson’s poll numbers collapsed, his campaign staff quit and his fundraising machine ground to a halt. But it was a Pyrrhic victory for Trump because the Carson voters didn’t back him – they switched to Cruz! Poll numbers shows Cruz’s dramatic rise right after the Carson collapse. Trump effectively defeated Carson to elect Cruz. Had Carson remained higher in the polls, he would have become Cruz’s target, and the pair would have divided the evangelical vote, paving the way for an easy Trump win. The lesson of Iowa is this: Reagan’s 11th Commandment makes great political sense. Reagan’s directive famously said, “Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican.” The idea is that GOP rivals can and should vigorously disagree on policy matters – but personal attacks should be avoided at all costs. Reagan himself fought a bitter primary against Gerald Ford in 1976. But Reagan’s campaign was a battle for his ideas – never a personal attack on Ford. After Iowa, I have little doubt that Donald Trump will continue to lead the GOP field heading into New Hampshire’s primary. But Trump has to remember that as every candidate drops out – especially grassroots conservatives like Rand Paul, Ben Carson, Mike Huckabee, Carly Fiorina, and Rick Santorum – their supporters have to go somewhere. Trump’s sharp attacks on his fellow GOP rivals will make capturing these voters difficult. For the moment, Ted Cruz seems more inviting to them. Back in November, after Trump had dominated the polls for so long, he should have made a strategic pivot to reach out to critics and take the high road. He waited until tonight to do so. His concession speech was terrific, with a perfect tone. “I love the people of Iowa,” Trump said as he graciously congratulated Ted Cruz. If Trump takes this new tack in the wake of Iowa, he just may win this yet. Read Latest Breaking News from http://Newsmax.com www.newsmax.com/Newsfront.../id/712280/#ixzz3z0b6AHEu Poster Comment: Happy Ground Hog Day.
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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
Funny, Trump, this supposedly massively intelligent and shrewd businessman and business strategist couldn't figure that out? It's money that makes people successful, not usually brains. In fact, many successful people could be far more successful if they actually had more brains coupled with their massive amounts of wealth.
well, remember that this is just an opinion that may or may not be accurate. then there is this:
For starters, I discount Drudge, it's a psyop site just as is infowars. No one should trust anything from either site. Secondly, OK, I'll agree, it's rigged. Isn't that what we've been saying all along? Whether or not that applied to Iowa who knows. But the end result is rigged and I doubt it will be Trump. He may very well serve as the plausibility in why/how Hillary gets (s)elected however, wouldn't you say, as he "divides and partitions" the GOP? ... at least "on paper." My money goes on Hillary as the POTUS select. She's the one who's career can be most easily and quickly dismantled should she not toe the ZOG/ZOE's line. Remember, AIPAC members have bragged that they, no one else, make or break political careers.
Trump is wise enough to realize that on the "democrat establishment" side his opponents are two jew communists of the olde school. From here on, Trump can ignore the establishment republicans, campaign to the masses against the jew/communists. The masses have a voice in Trump. All the rest are part and parcel of the establishment.
Iowa is a caucus state. Hard core fanatics show up. For some reason the pro-war Zionists like Cruz who is a natural born citizen of Canada and is married to Goldman Sachs. Cruz will take a thumping in NH. Rubio will be an also ran as his voters will leave him for Cruz.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
"Grassroots conservatives", my eye. I can sort of see how Rand and Carson can be perceived as "grassroots". But Succubee, Cruella, and Sanitorium are insiders who are only outsiders by their unpopularity. John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics: How to End the Refugee Flood Trump has issues with Goldman Sachs? e.g. Again, I have absolutely no idea why anyone thinks that Trump is independent from the worst of our enemies, don't people here do any rudimentary homework anymore? This place is half trump4um.com now. I don't get it.
Hah!!! FUNNY! Sassy, just what's needed! TRUE! I tend to agree it's just a case of vote rigging by the obviously biased and all- powerful Microsoft, a dead ringer for the 666-beast if there ever was one. The sheeple are girlish in their thinking and affections, it's true, but they seemed to respond rather well when Trump, the first candidate to rightly blister and deride his opponents in like 75 or 100 years, called down Uncle Ben on his treachery and banality. Yeah, Trump's light years from what we want, but vastly more light years ahead of the alternatives in that respect. Even Ron Paul didn't dare call these establishment shills what they are as the cameras rolled. RIGHTEOUS WRATH is needed, and there sure hasn't been much since they started fluoridating us. If [C]arson voters can be swayed so easily as to throw in their lot with the hateful Crudz, we're back to square one: there is no hope. But I don't think so. If this is fraud, neocon Ruddy is merely another factor in that -- "He is a member of the International Council, chaired by Dr. Henry Kissinger, at the CSIS, a bipartisan Washington, DC think-tank focused on national security and foreign affairs" (wikid). --------------------------------------------------------- NN Sequitur
Lol! That's very funny. And remember, I'm the only one on 4um that #Donald Trump has ever, or will ever, repeatedly compliment. Lol! So my critique of the obvious Jew toady has credo. :-) "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Yeah, Artisan's our point man on this. He not only grabbed the mikes for 9/11 truth at a live Trump speech but documented how refreshingly normal and moderate Trump's response was -- a likely clue that the Donald's measurably different from the rest if nowhere near perfect. Bear in mind that he's evolved by the hour in the course of this campaign -- in my book going from spouting neocon BS to telling people the valid things they really want to hear to (sacre bleu!) actually believing and digging them :-) Rest assured my hat is sodden with oil and vinegar and ready for eating if he gets elected and turns on us. -------------------------------------------------------------- NN Sequitur
No one here, literally no one that I've seen, seems to recognize him as the ZOG/ZOE facilitator that he is, by his own words. I just don't get it. Talk about selective reading and cognizance. I always viewed people here as more objective. Again, not that it matters in the grand scheme, but we're either talking facts or continuing on in a charade that we traditionally have hammered on here in a terminal fashion. Eyes wide shut.
Not quite sure what you're actually saying here. Are you suggesting that he's not neocon? If so, you're drastically incorrect. He's neocon to the core. It may not play that way in the papers, but when you come out directly and say that you're going to build the biggest military that we've ever had, despite the fact that it's currently larger than the next 11 combined, move our embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, fully support the very financial institutions in our nation that are at the core of almost all of our issues, then frankly, I'm not sure how much more neocon one can be.
Every other candidate is owned by Wall Street except for Sanders who is an idiot. Cruz is owned by Goldman Sachs. Rand sold America out to Monsanto over GMO labeling. And Rubio is trying to suck up to Sheldon Adelson. I usually vote Libertarian or Ralph Nader. Not this time. I will vote for Trump. I am expecting the worst financial crisis in 500 years because we have more Unpayable Debts than any time in 500 years. A Depression is a period in time when Unpayable Debts are cancelled en masse. I want Trump to be President if there is martial law. 3 million Americans starved to death in the 1930s. We will lose 10 million to starvation this time unless we arrest Bankers and seize assets.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
Time will tell what he's really made of -- and only time.
Agree. Thanks.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
This is the hazard of a vote system that only lets you express a favorable opinion for 1 candidate of many. It's very archaic. Approval voting lets voters vote for everyone they like. Whomever is liked the most, wins.
Would it change things if everyone here favored a different candidate?
Approval voting lets voters vote for everyone they like. Whomever is liked the most, wins. Big amen. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
You're clearly watching/reading far too much mainstream news. Trump is up to his ears in mainstream establishment. In fact, find for me one, just one, key quote on any one of the following topics, the single biggest in terms of the undermining and subversion of our liberties, that indicates unequivocally that Trump is not an establishmentarian, just one on any of them? Finance/economy Those are the single biggest areas in which our liberties have been eroded. I can find you all kinds of quotes indicating that he is nothing but an establishmentarian there. Seriously, I don't know where you're getting your info, but it's terminally flawed. Othwerwise, the last person that I want in charge when we have martial law is someone that wants to create the biggest military in our history, that is on-record against certain elements of our population that with the stroke of a pen we could easily join for an infinite number of reasons, one that favors the death penalty for anyone that kills a cop without any qualification in terms of circumstances, and one that fully supports the anti-Christian, yea Satanic behavior, of an entire nation in the Middle East. I'm both flabberghasted and distraught that anyone that reads here regularly would or could possibly say what you just said. Truly. I'll tell ya though, you are a fantastic poster-child for exactly how we screw ourselves despite the fact that you yourself do not have any significant impact as a single person. You represent the "send yourself into slavery with a smile" methodology that has been perpetrated upon us by the establishment. I'm stunned that you and others here cannot see that. Completely lacking wisdom.
I know right now, and anyone that doesn't has his/her eyes closed a/o hasn't done even a modest amount of research. Damn, he's even come out and told us in no uncertain terms, but just like our troops rushing to war in WWI that thought that simply because the Americans had arrived that it would be quick work over the Germans, so too people toss wisdom in the dumpster and plod forth in willful ignorance.
I guess you're gonna have to forgive some of us for not agreeing with you on this. Having a slow day, hmmm? :-) ---------------------------------------------------------- NN Sequitur
borrowed from Lew Rockwell's forum: “Awaken the Body of Christ” . . . Thomas DiLorenzo . . . by voting for Ted Cruz, said Ted, to a gang of bloodthirsty, warmongering, “evangelicals” in Iowa who loudly cheered his admonition. (All of Ted’s foreign policy advisors are among the worst of the worst of the Strangeloviean neocons). Message to all those Iowa “evangelicals”: Suckerrrrrrrrrrrs!
Yeah, Teddy's such a CHRISTIAN -- so FERVENT! www.youtube.com/watch? v=Kh5YWrqh6RM All he has to do is spout such niceties and his despicable, genocidal vitriol isn't just forgiven but totally forgotten. ----------------------------------------------------------- NN Sequitur
Not exactly forgiven because he was never condemned for it in the first place.
What kind of a question is that? It's entire premise is flawed. All we talk about here is how it doesn't matter since anyone that would even be truly considered by the establishment must be owned. Yet, in this case it's different. LMAO Seriously? There is no hope in any of the candidates and if there were you can rest assured that for either health reasons or assassination reasons that person wouldn't make it thru 12 months in office in one piece. Or perhaps a "scandal" resulting in impeachment/resignation. NO! It doesn't make a damn bit of difference one way or another. Either way, the only way that Trump is anti-establishment is in financing and operating his campaign, but the anti-establishmentarianism comes to a grinding halt immediately after that. This Trump love here is laughable. ... and disturbing. Otherwise, please tell me how the following are going to do anything to reverse the current trend: An even larger military which Trump has promised. An embassy in Jerusalem. Again, what could possibly go wrong with that. LMAO Instantly bringing down the hammer of "national security" at Trump's mere mention of a problematic demographic per his personal philosophies. Keep in mind, he's fully establishment in terms of NatSec. Just as with The Patriot Act I see problems there. Granted, few others appear to see their own demise there just as with the PA. Pure IF-ism. Someone that validates in spades the charade that is our economy predicated upon the Federal Reserve system and supports it. Trump said in 2013 the following: That sound promising to you? Meanwhile, Trump gets played, or is in on, you can pick your poison, by the Federal Reserve system like a Stradivarius. In the meantime, read this, it should be enlightening. Trump is a tool of the MIC, OK, on the "business" side, the "large corporate business side," fully validating of the charade that is our Federal Reserve bogus system, pro-police-state, and seems to truly believe that our ubiquitous "news delivery system(s)" in this country are on the level. Honestly, I see little practical difference. There is no hope in politics in or current political system until the backdrop for politics changes, but even then it could even more easily go from the frying pan into the fire as well. The author is very kind to Trump in this report as well that reveals Trump to be establishmentarian.
Well, then disagree with this one;
Thanks for the pings -- I get so few anymore! www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHHxPRdwDGw ------------------------------------------------------- NN Sequitur
The only choices left are 1) Cruz who is not a citizen and has strong ties to Goldman Sachs. 2) Rubio who is not a natural born citizen and is tied at the hip to Shelson Adelson. Trump who has been attacked of late by the Establishment and Israel. You missed my pain point. If we do not arrest the Bankers and seize their assets to fund Debt Cancellation, we will see 10 million Americans starve to death. We will have martial law. The only choices are which President would you like to see in charge or maybe you would prefer a military coup? We have that many Unpayable Debts to cancel. With Debt Based money Debt Cancellation means Monetary Contraction and Depression. That is why we need a Debt Free money like Lincoln'e Greenbacks. The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
Thou shalt not belittle the magic negro.
A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.
Building a wall and deportations. Tariffs. A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.
My guess as to why that is, is that you don't care about genocide. A rainbow coalition against Jews doesn't require Whites or Pro-Whites. It can be just as brown or anti-white as you like.
It's fucking Iowa, nobody gives a shit about those corn farmers who are so damn proud of their ethanol gasoline that plays hell with our vehices/boats/lawn equipment. Trump is moving on and the Hawkeyes can go back to their winter slumber.....
#2. To: Katniss (#1)
#3. To: christine (#2)
#4. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
But Trump has to remember that as every candidate drops out
#5. To: Katniss, BTP Holdings, christine (#3)
#6. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
But Trump has to remember that as every candidate drops out – especially grassroots conservatives like Rand Paul, Ben Carson, Mike Huckabee, Carly Fiorina, and Rick Santorum – their supporters have to go somewhere. Trump’s sharp attacks on his fellow GOP rivals will make capturing these voters difficult.
Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
#7. To: Horse (#5)
#8. To: PnbC, All (#6)
Succubee, Cruella, and Sanitorium
#9. To: Katniss (#7)
This place is half trump4um.com now. I don't get it.
#10. To: Artisan, All (#9)
#11. To: Artisan (#9)
So my critique of the obvious Jew toady has credo. :-)
#12. To: NeoconsNailed (#10)
Bear in mind that he's evolved by the hour in the course of this campaign -- in my book going from spouting neocon BS to telling people the valid things they really want to hear to (sacre bleu!) actually believing and digging them :-)
#13. To: Katniss (#7)
#14. To: Katniss (#12)
#15. To: Horse (#13)
#16. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
#17. To: Katniss (#7)
This place is half trump4um.com now. I don't get it.
#18. To: Pinguinite (#16)
This is the hazard of a vote system that only lets you express a favorable opinion for 1 candidate of many. It's very archaic.
#19. To: Horse (#13)
Every other candidate is owned by Wall Street except for Sanders who is an idiot. Cruz is owned by Goldman Sachs. Rand sold America out to Monsanto over GMO labeling. And Rubio is trying to suck up to Sheldon Adelson. I usually vote Libertarian or Ralph Nader. Not this time. I will vote for Trump. I am expecting the worst financial crisis in 500 years because we have more Unpayable Debts than any time in 500 years. A Depression is a period in time when Unpayable Debts are cancelled en masse. I want Trump to be President if there is martial law. 3 million Americans starved to death in the 1930s. We will lose 10 million to starvation this time unless we arrest Bankers and seize assets.
National Security
Education
Israel/Zionism
#20. To: NeoconsNailed (#14)
#21. To: Katniss (#20)
#22. To: Katniss (#11)
Eyes wide shut.
#23. To: Ada (#22)
#24. To: NeoconsNailed (#23)
#25. To: Pinguinite (#17)
Would it change things if everyone here favored a different candidate?
"if you think you're going to change very substantially for the worse Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security in any substantial way, and at the same time you think you're going to win elections, it just really is not going to happen."
#26. To: NeoconsNailed, All (#21)
I guess you're gonna have to forgive some of us for not agreeing with you on this. Having a slow day, hmmm? :-)
#27. To: Katniss (#26)
#28. To: Katniss (#19)
#29. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
#30. To: Katniss (#25)
Otherwise, please tell me how the following are going to do anything to reverse the current trend:
#31. To: Katniss (#25)
Honestly, I see little practical difference.
#32. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#33. To: Horse (#28)
I agree, but look at what happened to the Liberty Dollar a number of years ago. This alternative currency was actually backed by gold and silver on deposit at a vault. They were driven out of business by the establishment which could not have any such thing become a threat to the FED and its funny money system. The Liberty Dollar worked very well. I recall there was a town in Arkansas that you could go and trade your FRNs for Liberty Dollars and shop at the many st stores in town that accepted them. When you were finished with your visit, you could trade the left over Liberty Dollars for FRNs again and leave town with what you had acquired there. The Greenbacks created by Lincoln to fund the War Between the States is what lead to his eventual assassination. John Wilkes Booth was an agent of the European bankers that Lincoln spurned, and not a southern sympathizer. ;) we need a Debt Free money
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#34. To: BTP Holdings, 4 (#33)
trump in nh tonight
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#35. To: BTP Holdings (#33)
A Debt Free money is what Greenbacks were. When we were on the gold standard, you could deposit one $20 gold coin. And your Banker could loan out $200. He created $180 in checking account money as a loan at interest. And he created that checking account money out of thin air.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
#36. To: Katniss, christine (#11)
No one here, literally no one that I've seen, seems to recognize him as the ZOG/ZOE facilitator that he is, by his own words. I just don't get it. Talk about selective reading and cognizance. I always viewed people here as more objective. yeah it used to annoy me too, but I figure it's like this. if we're talking about the average American, I'm sure you could understand how and why they like trump's message. they are very unsophisticated and naïve, gullible. I have likened them to literal retarded children or starving stray dogs,,, you cant help but have pity on them,. However, people "in the know", like those here, or the jew-wise folks, the 9/11 awake folks, the "NWO" experts, youre asking "howTF can they be so dumb to fall for trump??!" That is actually a damn good question, which baffled me at first., and still does to a degree, . However, I figured most people here have to know his faults. its just that they accept and overlook them, because trump appears to be rogue and independent compared to the other absolute piles of trash that we have running. Trump is not a PC prissy politician with a history of crimes against humanity, and so if the choice is him or Hillary, the choice is clear for them. I understand, because, like them, if we must choose, I'd much rather have trump in there than Hillary or bush or cruz, etc.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#37. To: Katniss (#25)
ROFL..... my question was a very funny one. That's what kind it was. I think you catch my point more than you realize. Trump is a wildcard of sorts. If he gets the presidency, then anything could happen. Or maybe nothing. With anyone else, it's more likely nothing will happen -- meaning nothing will change. I'm enjoying the fact that the GOP is floundering in Trump's shadow. Or seems to be, at least. When was the last time we've seen that? Other than that, what's wrong with getting the popcorn, pulling up a chair and watching the Trump show? Since it really doesn't matter who we here on 4um would prefer when the presidency, what's wrong with some real live entertainment? Sure Trump would likely do a lot of things we here on 4um don't like. But if he also does some things the establishment doesn't like, like declassifying all the documents that embarrass the hell out of most every western government including past USA admins, then that's a good thing. What kind of a question is that? It's entire premise is flawed.
#38. To: Artisan (#36)
However, people "in the know", like those here, or the jew-wise folks, the 9/11 awake folks, the "NWO" experts, youre asking "howTF can they be so dumb to fall for trump??!" That is actually a damn good question, which baffled me at first., and still does to a degree, . However, I figured most people here have to know his faults. its just that they accept and overlook them, because trump appears to be rogue and independent compared to the other absolute piles of trash that we have running. Trump is not a PC prissy politician with a history of crimes against humanity, and so if the choice is him or Hillary, the choice is clear for them. I understand, because, like them, if we must choose, I'd much rather have trump in there than Hillary or bush or cruz, etc. I don't think it would make a damn bit of difference. Apparently no one that supports him here has ever bothered to look at the types that backpats with kudos and props at the highest levels, each and every single one an establishmentarian. Which brings us to the second point, that anyone here truly even remotely puts faith into whomever it might be is astonishing in and of itself in this corrupt, mindless, emotionally-laden charade of a things we actually call "free elections." The same exact arguments that you just made were applied, and then quite some more, in the Junior v. Gore election of 2000 and frankly, I have a difficult time even remotely considering that Gore in as the stooge in chief would have been worse. yeah it used to annoy me too, but I figure it's like this. if we're talking about the average American, I'm sure you could understand how and why they like trump's message. they are very unsophisticated and naïve, gullible. I have likened them to literal retarded children or starving stray dogs,,, you cant help but have pity on them,.
#39. To: Pinguinite (#37)
I think you catch my point more than you realize. Trump is a wildcard of sorts. If he gets the presidency, then anything could happen. Or maybe nothing. With anyone else, it's more likely nothing will happen -- meaning nothing will change. I'm enjoying the fact that the GOP is floundering in Trump's shadow. Or seems to be, at least. When was the last time we've seen that? Here's my take: Who cares about the GOP, part of the problem as an organization that's part of the huge ruse. You're wrong about nothing changing, what will change is the people along the lines of demographics will become a whole lot more emotionally charged and adversarial and combative, and yes, ultimately physically so. Who knows, perhaps the result will be all-out civil war, I wouldn't be a plug nickel against it if he wins. We rant about that being the goal here, well, now those ranting about it want to desperately usher it in. Madness, gullibility, and idiocy at its finest! Trump will also usher in the complete and utter eradication of any semblance of dignity associated with the office. He already is doing that. How can this possibly result in anything but what's not good. Trump is like a child in the midst of a tantrum. The thrice divorced, 5 times bankrupted, 4 times military draft deferments is going to lecture us all on morality. Sure. Just don't count me in as one of the mindless fools buying even a shred of that. Otherwise, you are absolutely correct, absolutely nothing will change as he'll put in place very similar people to what any other candidate would. He has no record of going outside any establishment in his personal dealings whatsoever. He praises establishment people, methods, institutions, etc., and is promising to bolster the worst of them. Again, fools climb aboard. This has absolutely nothing to do with any change, it has to do with how I and others view this forum. On one hand we talk a good game, on the other we're too dumb to be able to figure our for ourselves when we're being played but continue to criticize others for not being able to recognize those same things. Nothing's wrong with "grabbing the popcorn," but that's not what's going on here. What's going on here is all but active support for Trump, a huge difference. The mindset here is something other than entertainment and is discouraging given how many people here seem to believe that Trump would actually make a difference besides what I just mentioned. But don't be gullible enough to think that one man makes that kind of difference. Only what suits the establishment will be de-classified, that's a fact. And what is, as with the recently "de-classified" JFK documents, will be so redacted as to be almost worthless anyway. That's what "de-classification" means these days. Don't think for two seconds that Trump would come out and piss in his own stated philosophy on national security anyway, he wouldn't. If anything he's the most police-state oriented one on the current roster. He's said so, but hey, just as with the actual statements of the PTB, who cares when we can watch the TOOOB and have pep-rally brainlessness to wave the banner of, right. ROFL..... my question was a very funny one. That's what kind it was.
Other than that, what's wrong with getting the popcorn, pulling up a chair and watching the Trump show? Since it really doesn't matter who we here on 4um would prefer when the presidency, what's wrong with some real live entertainment?
Sure Trump would likely do a lot of things we here on 4um don't like. But if he also does some things the establishment doesn't like, like declassifying all the documents that embarrass the hell out of most every western government including past USA admins, then that's a good thing.
#40. To: Pinguinite, Artisan, Christine, All (#37) (Edited)
FOR SHAME!
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