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Title: An Exasperated John Kerry Throws In Towel On Syria: "What Do You Want Me To Do, Go To War With The Russians?!"
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URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016- ... you-want-me-do-go-war-russians
Published: Feb 7, 2016
Author: td
Post Date: 2016-02-07 16:52:47 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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Views: 285
Comments: 13

“Russian and Syrian forces intensified their campaign on rebel-held areas around Aleppo that are still home to around 350,000 people and aid workers have said the city - Syria's largest before the war - could soon fall.”

Can you spot what’s wrong with that quote, from a Reuters piece out today? Here’s the problem: “could soon fall” implies that Aleppo is on the verge of succumbing to enemy forces. It’s not. It’s already in enemy hands and has been for quite some time. What Reuters should have said is this: “...could soon be liberated.”

While we’ll be the first to admit that Bashar al-Assad isn’t exactly the most benevolent leader in the history of statecraft, you can bet most Syrians wish this war had never started and if you were to ask those stranded in Aleppo what their quality of life is like now, versus what it was like in 2009, we’re fairly certain you’ll discover that residents aren’t particularly enamored with life under the mishmash of rebels that now control the city.

In any event, Russia and Iran have encircled Aleppo and once it “falls” (to quote Reuters) that’s pretty much it for the opposition. Or at least for the “moderate” opposition. And the Saudis and Turks know it.

So does John Kerry, who is desperate to restart stalled peace negotiations in Geneva. The problem for the US and its regional allies is simple: if Russia and Iran wipe out the opposition on the battlefield, there’s no need for peace talks. The Assad government will have been restored and that will be that. ISIS will still be operating in the east, but that’s a problem Moscow and Tehran will solve in short order once the country’s major urban centers are secured.

As we noted on Saturday, Riyadh and Ankara are extremely concerned that the five-year-old effort to oust Assad is about to collapse and indeed, the ground troop trial balloons have already been floated both in Saudi Arabia and in Turkey. For their part, the Russians and the Iranians have indicated their willingness to discuss a ceasefire but according to John Kerry himself, the opposition is now unwilling to come to the table.

Don’t blame me – go and blame your opposition,’” an exasperated Kerry told aid workers on the sidelines of the Syria donor conference in London this week.  

America’s top diplomat also said that the country should expect another three months of bombing that would “decimate” the opposition, according to Middle East Eye who also says that Kerry left the aid workers with "the distinct impression" that the US is abandoning efforts to support rebel fighters.

In other words, Washington has come to terms with the fact that there's only one way out of this now. It's either go to war with Russia and Iran or admit that this particular effort to bring about regime change in the Mid-East simply isn't salvageable. 

"He said that basically, it was the opposition that didn’t want to negotiate and didn’t want a ceasefire, and they walked away,” a second aid worker told MEE. 

“‘What do you want me to do? Go to war with Russia? Is that what you want?’” the aid worker said Kerry told her.

MEE also says the US has completely abandoned the idea that Assad should step down. Now, apparently, Washington just wants Assad to stop using barrel bombs so the US can "sell the story to the public." "A third source who claims to have served as a liaison between the Syrian and American governments over the past six months said Kerry had passed the message on to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in October that the US did not want him to be removed," MEE says. "The source claimed that Kerry said if Assad stopped the barrel bombs, Kerry could 'sell the story' to the public, the source said."

Of course Kerry won't be able to "sell" that story to the Saudis and the Turks, or to Qatar all of whom are now weighing their oppositions as the US throws in the towel. "Kerry’s mixed messages after the collapse of the Geneva process have put more pressure on Turkey and Saudi Arabia," MEE concludes. "Both feel extreme unease at the potential collapse of the opposition US-recognised Free Syrian Army."

And so, as we said earlier this week, it's do or die time for Riyadh, Ankara, and Doha. Either this proxy war morphs into a real world war in the next two weeks, or Aleppo "falls" to Assad marking a truly humiliating defeat for US foreign policy and, more importantly, for the Saudis' goal of establishing Sunni hegemony in the Arabian Peninsula.

The only other option is for John Kerry to face the Russians in battle. As is evident from the sources quoted above, Washington clearly does not have the nerve for that. 

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

“Russian and Syrian forces intensified their campaign on rebel-held areas around Aleppo that are still home to around 350,000 people and aid workers have said the city - Syria's largest before the war - could soon fall.”

Can you spot what’s wrong with that quote, from a Reuters piece out today? Here’s the problem: “could soon fall” implies that Aleppo is on the verge of succumbing to enemy forces. It’s not. It’s already in enemy hands and has been for quite some time. What Reuters should have said is this: “...could soon be liberated.”

Right off I can say that the problem is the Editor at Reuters. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-02-07   16:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

And all this without Russian ground troops.

Goes to show what REAL air campaigns can achieve when coordinated with the legitimate government and ITS ground forces.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-02-07   17:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: FormerLurker (#2)

Goes to show what REAL air campaigns can achieve when coordinated with the legitimate government and ITS ground forces.

If this only worked with every war we would be in business. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-02-07   17:18:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#3)

It can and DOES work if there's an actual intent of winning.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-02-07   17:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: FormerLurker (#4)

It can and DOES work if there's an actual intent of winning.

In Vietnam, the Air Force was under orders to NOT attack the MiG bases in North Vietnam. I would say this effectively hamstrung the efforts at winning the war. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-02-07   17:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BTP Holdings (#5)

I saw a documentary once the discussed a list of 200 priority targets the in-country military brass wanted to hit in Vietnam. McNamara (I think it was) made them start at the bottom of the list, which was arranged from highest priority to lowest.

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Dakmar  posted on  2016-02-07   17:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: FormerLurker (#4)

"Winning" would destroy the profits for the MIC; we no longer go to war to win, but to make $$$.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-02-07   17:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Is good, no? The zio's hate to lose face. Only an FF op will salvage this mess.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2016-02-07   18:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

admit that this particular effort to bring about regime change in the Mid-East simply isn't salvageable.

Regime change is SOP for DeeCee and they have used it frequently in the past. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-02-07   18:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#7)

the profits for the MIC

It was Eisenhower that warned us of the military industrial complex in his farewell address. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-02-07   18:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings, Dakmar, Lod (#5)

In Vietnam, the Air Force was under orders to NOT attack the MiG bases in North Vietnam. I would say this effectively hamstrung the efforts at winning the war. ;)

It's obvious there was no will or desire to "win" that "war". It's all about "fighting the war", not winning it.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-02-08   15:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FormerLurker (#11)

THAT is the truth. Why would Washington and the deep state, who had created the USSR as our national bugaboo for the post-WW2, have wanted to actually "win" a "war" against one of its proxies, and in effect the beast itself?

All the world's a stage, and a frightening percentage of the protagonists and proceedings on it are pure, hokum.

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NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-02-08   16:05:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: NeoconsNailed (#12)

All the world's a stage, and a frightening percentage of the protagonists and proceedings on it are pure, hokum.

And these days it's so blatantly obvious, only the brain dead believe things are as they are told. Unfortunately, so many of the population ARE functionally brain dead due to the incessant poisoning (fluoride, vaccines, pesticides, SSRI's, etc.) over their lifetimes, they are oblivious to it.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-02-08   16:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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