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Title: The Oregon occupation is over, but standoffs among nearby residents continue Oregon refuge occupation
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na ... ndoff-west-20160212-story.html
Published: Feb 12, 2016
Author: Matt Pearce
Post Date: 2016-02-12 20:23:09 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 463
Comments: 16

In the end, the people in the little town of Burns never rose up in revolution against the federal government. They only rose up against one another, in cafes, on Facebook, in their places of worship.

The nearby Malheur National Wildlife Refuge that was the center of a 41-day armed occupation aimed at challenging the power of the federal government was a sprawling crime scene by Friday, occupied by federal agents and a few trucks. The occupiers were in custody; the long-feared shootout never happened.

Instead — apart from the Jan. 26 shooting death of group spokesman Robert “LaVoy” Finicum during a law enforcement highway trap — the protest’s primary casualties are the emotionally wounded residents of conservative Harney County, who had been torn for weeks over whether to support the right-wing occupation.

They now must find a way to end their own standoffs among themselves, here in the desolation of Oregon’s high desert.

“There’s a lot of people who have been here a long time and lost friendships over it,” said Nicole Davis, 45, a third-generation Harney County resident who has stopped going to church because she’s so afraid of getting drawn into a personal fight over the armed occupation.

The men and women who came here from across the country, armed with rifles and pistols, began their protest on Jan. 2, at a moment when the American establishment seemed to be losing its grip. Black Lives Matter protests had shaken cities; Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump had shaken long-standing political parties. Here, the outsiders decided to try to shake the whole federal government.

The outsiders began their protest after two local ranchers were sent to prison under a federal anti-terrorism statute on charges related to burning local federal wild lands. The protesters claimed the desolate bird sanctuary 30 miles outside Burns as their redoubt and said they planned to stay indefinitely.

Some protesters, like Ammon Bundy, said that the federal government had no right to control the West’s public wild lands. They nurtured dreams of a new Sagebrush Rebellion that could take on what they saw as a federal government that had forgotten it was supposed to answer to citizens.

They invited militias to call up their ranks and flock to Oregon, counting on the local populace to get in their cars and join them on the refuge. But the columns of supporters never arrived; some of those who did served more to irritate than mobilize local residents.

Last week, two men came to Linda Gainer’s RV park outside the refuge and said they planned to stay there to help support local ranchers, Gainer recalled Friday while sitting at the counter of her cafe at the park.

She soon found out that the men had posted on Facebook that they were starting a new protest site at her RV park and were calling for supporters to join them. “They lied,” she said.

Things only got worse from there — Gainer had trouble reaching the overwhelmed local sheriff’s office to get help kicking the men out, and then she became a target for abuse from outside the community when word got out on social media that she was supposedly supporting the protesters.

“I started getting crap emails for my business,” Gainer said bitterly, noting that she was also getting angry phone calls, even from California. Residents also seemed baffled by the electronic abuse they got on Facebook — from one another.

M.L. Harris wrote to the Burns Times Herald this week that he had been chastised and exiled on Facebook for having an “open mind” about the protesters and the issues they raised. He said one law enforcement official had challenged him about whether he was “for the militia or for us.”

A local emergency dispatcher and hospital worker had “liked” another user’s comment that called him “crazy,” he said.

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“Any opportunity to reason or form worthwhile communication was met with an instant ‘unfriending,’” Harris wrote. “Now, I wonder, if I have an emergency, will I be cared for by a biased dispatcher [or] the person working in the hospital who proclaimed their myopic view by one click of the ‘like’ button?”

Harris wasn’t alone. This week’s letters in the newspaper — published before the final surrenders on Thursday — contain both pleas for the occupiers to leave and statements of agreement with some of the protesters’ issues. The paper seemed to serve as a confessional.

“I was told personally by a very good friend to ‘get off the fence and choose one side or the other,’” one reader wrote. “I felt that I couldn’t do that because I was on both sides.”

But a common criticism seemed to emerge again and again: The occupiers were outsiders who had made a mess in somebody else’s community.

“This is addressed to all the residents of Harney County, with a valid state of Oregon identification with zip codes 97720, 97738, 97904, 97732, 97721, 97722, 97710, 97758,” wrote Burns resident Sue Mackey. “If we do not come together, we are going to lose this county to one of the groups that have invaded us.”

Last Oregon refuge occupier surrenders peacefully, after some tense final moments Last Oregon refuge occupier surrenders peacefully, after some tense final moments Cathy Jory, a resident of Hines, directed her letter at Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, Ammon’s father, who had spoken in support of the occupation before he was arrested in Portland on charges connected to his own challenge to the federal government, this one involving cattle grazing fees.

“I am a resident of Harney County,” Jory wrote to Bundy. “I have never given you or anyone else permission to speak, write or act for me.... You don’t represent me. We are all suffering the consequences of the irresponsible actions and words of outside agitators who think they have the right to speak for us.”

Davis, speaking outside the Burns Safeway on Friday, said what so many residents of Harney County seemed to have diagnosed as the key failure of a protest whose viewpoints many local residents shared: “I don’t think that coming into a community from out of state is a good way to make a point.”

The arrests have now brought some relief to the area, though the road outside the refuge was blocked Friday with an electronic highway sign that threatens arrest to trespassers. No protesters could be seen.

“I’m so thankful the whole thing is over with. They walked out instead of being carried out,” said Gainer, who added that she had spent worried nights wondering whether loud noises were gunshots. When she heard news that the final occupier had surrendered, she said, it was “like 300 pounds was lifted off my shoulder.”

At the roadside cafe outside the refuge, waitress Vicky Rogers fetched coffee and eggs for the reporters and FBI agents who had outlasted the occupiers.

Rogers’ best hope for Burns now spoke both to the protesters and the government: “To let us go back and lead our lives” — and, she added, “let us have our Constitution back.”

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#1. To: All, JohnStadtmiller (#0)

the protest’s primary casualties are the emotionally wounded residents of conservative Harney County, who had been torn for weeks over whether to support the right-wing occupation

The MSM had been telling us that the county was united against the occupiers.

Ada  posted on  2016-02-12   20:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

Has there, at any time in human history, ever been a single revolution or revolt that has been uncontroversial?

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-12   21:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

the long-feared shootout never happened.

Instead — apart from the Jan. 26 shooting death of group spokesman Robert “LaVoy” Finicum during a law enforcement highway trap

This is double speak, strait up and undeniably doublespeak.

"Oh the government never killed anyone , well maybe that one guy but he didnt count because we felt threatened"

Its horseshit i tell ya.

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titorite  posted on  2016-02-12   21:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: titorite, christine (#3)

"SHOOT ME! SHOOT ME! SHOOT ME!" is what Finicum shouted to cops , according to his friend and witness shawna cox... this after he sped towards the roadblock, crashed and jumped out of the vehicle. I don't think this guy is some hero like many do. He acted like a maniac, Ryan was arguing with him to stop the truck but finicum refused. Finjicum committed suicide by cop. I think he used gravely (literally) bad judgment & failed to respect human life- his own- which belongs to God, not just us. Furthermore, the father & son in prison whom all these protesters were complaining about didn't even support their acts. The whole thing didn't make much sense to me. One more thing. Finicum admitted in the past that he made his living NOT as a rancher, but as a "foster parent" to dozens of kids over the years. Did he ever mind or oppose the "tyranny" of the state stealing people's kids? Which is infinitely worse than their lands? No, he fed on that government teat like a leach welfare recipient enabler. I find that whole system very evil & revolting, & I've seen how they destroy families. Not too impressed with all these mormon cultists.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2016-02-13   5:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan (#4)

That's not what the video showed.

Ada  posted on  2016-02-13   12:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ada (#5)

That's not what the video showed.

are you alleging that Finicum's own friend who was with him in the car is engaging or involved in some wild conspiracy theory to hide the truth?? lol.

I suppose the 'crisis actor' meme will appear next.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2016-02-13   12:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Artisan (#6)

are you alleging that Finicum's own friend who was with him in the car is engaging or involved in some wild conspiracy theory to hide the truth?

Shouting "shoot me" does not make it okay for the orcs to shoot.

What the witnesses said

Ada  posted on  2016-02-13   15:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada (#7)

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/oregon-malheur-shawna-cox-lavoy-finicum/2016/02/11/id/713930/

I don't trust neocon propaganda sites like newsmax. Shawna Cox was interviewed by a legitimate Oregon newspaper, I linked to it above, and she stated very clearly what finicum did and said. "SHOOT ME, SHOOT ME, SHOOT ME!"

I agree with you that him shouting shoot me is not justification for them to shoot him, but what kind of lunatic screams shoot me to a bunch of trigger happy cops and keeps reaching in his jacket?

aside from that, all the witnesses have been interviewed on numerous radio programs so you can hear it from the horses mouth.

you know the more people defend this loon the more attention they draw to his actions, which seem absolutely deranged.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2016-02-13   20:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ada, Artisan (#7) (Edited)

Shouting "shoot me" does not make it okay for the orcs to shoot.

And that's my exact point. I'm not debating the mans character , I'm talking ab about his murder at the hands of a cop. Cop assisted suicide is double speak. No different than assisted suicide. Cop assisted suicide is just another way to say legalized murder IMHO.

HE didn't kill himself. They killed him. The mans past be right or wrong,His life was wrongfully taken.

Nobody ever says civilian assisted suicide when cop is murdered.

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titorite  posted on  2016-02-14   3:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: titorite (#9)

That's cuz it's never known to happen, right?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-02-14   4:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: titorite (#9)

Nobody ever says civilian assisted suicide when cop is murdered.

In the United States cops are civilians. Cops' calling non-cops "civilians" is a psy-op to support their setting themselves apart from and above us mere mundanes.

StraitGate  posted on  2016-02-14   8:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: titorite (#9)

Nobody ever says civilian assisted suicide when cop is murdered.

lol! that's a good one.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2016-02-14   9:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: titorite, Artisan (#9)

I'm not debating the mans character

Right. He could have held up the 711 for all it matters. What we saw on the video was him leaving the SUV with hands raised, taking a few steps, stumbling, then one hand reaching into jacket pocket and being shot by that Israeli-trained orc. I had thought the stumble resulted from the deep snow but now it appears he may have been shot.

Ada  posted on  2016-02-14   10:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: StraitGate (#11) (Edited)

In the United States cops are civilians. Cops' calling non- cops "civilians" is a psy-op to support their setting themselves apart from and above us mere mundanes.

Well its a police state.... Cops are no longer civilians. That's why they say they are on call twenty four seven even when they are off duty... and the scoutus has done nothing but support the erroneous idea.

They are ill trained to view the public with contempt as their enemy. To be handled and dealt with as they see fit.

HENCE THE NEED FOR CIVIL RESISTENCE (emphasis aimed at the people not you strait) as was attempted in Oregon.

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titorite  posted on  2016-02-17   23:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Artisan (#12)

I'm glad you liked the comparison my friend.

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titorite  posted on  2016-02-17   23:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ada (#13)

Right. He could have held up the 711 for all it matters. What we saw on the video was him leaving the SUV with hands raised, taking a few steps, stumbling, then one hand reaching into jacket pocket and being shot by that Israeli-trained orc. I had thought the stumble resulted from the deep snow but now it appears he may have been shot.

Indeed. we saw a situation where apprehension was a completely viable course of action...

Instead scum bag sub humans choose to murder.... because they knew they could get away with it. ..... let God judge em because I just cant view them with anything but contempt.

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titorite  posted on  2016-02-17   23:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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