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Title: Trumping himself: Has the Donald gone too far in calling Iraq war ‘a big fat mistake’?
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URL Source: https://www.rt.com/op-edge/332416-trump-iraq-us-elections/
Published: Feb 14, 2016
Author: interview with Red Rall
Post Date: 2016-02-14 11:11:37 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 261
Comments: 11

Donald Trump seems to be playing for a general election candidacy and is completely breaking Reagan’s 11th Commandment, which says that one should never speak ill of fellow Republicans, says Ted Rall, American political author and cartoonist.

The six GOP candidates for president clashed Saturday in a final debate ahead of the crucial February 20 South Carolina primary. Frontrunner Donald Trump had a series of fierce exchanges with his rivals, during which he accused George W Bush of “not keeping America safe” by failing to prevent the 9/11 attacks and called the Iraq War “a big fat mistake” that “destabilized the Middle East.”

RT: From relations with Russia to the war on terror - Donald Trump's position is in stark contrast to the rest of the Republican camp. How is Trump able to garner so much support from the party's voters?

Ted Rall: It really is remarkable. Trump is completely breaking the idea that the Republican commandment that was enunciated by Ronald Reagan – that one should never criticize a fellow Republican, in this case President George W. Bush who invaded Iraq, and all the Republicans on stage who supported the war and support militarism in general. Trump seems to be playing for a general election candidacy. If he is the Republican nominee, this will help him to run against Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton, whoever is the Democratic nominee in the fall. I don’t even know if this is something that you can even say is a tactic or a strategy, as much as just something he is trying out. It didn’t play very well in the audience in South Carolina. But the real audience is on television. It remains to be seen how the vast majority of the American people, who do believe, according to the polls, that the Iraq War was a mistake, will take this. It may be that Iraq is just isn’t going to be a major issue this year.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

I don’t even know if this is something that you can even say is a tactic or a strategy, as much as just something he is trying out. It didn’t play very well in the audience in South Carolina. But the real audience is on television. It remains to be seen how the vast majority of the American people, who do believe, according to the polls, that the Iraq War was a mistake, will take this.

I took his blasting smirk and his lying us into Iraq very well.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-02-14   11:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

There is a separate, distinct republican party????

Not had one for years.

We have had...Government...A self sustaining criminal enterprise.

Shrub was part and parcel of it.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-02-14   11:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#1)

I took his blasting smirk and his lying us into Iraq very well.

Unfortunately, you're not a typical Uhmerrkin voter.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2016-02-14   11:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#0)

Has the Donald gone too far...

Would someone please explain to me why Donald Trump is sometimes referred to as The Donald? What is that all about?

Thanks in advance.

StraitGate  posted on  2016-02-14   12:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: StraitGate (#4)

Trump's first wife, the foreign-born Ivana, referred to him as "The Donald" when relaying orders to subordinates.

Ada  posted on  2016-02-14   13:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ada (#5)

My wife does that, too. She tells our son-in-law things like, "The StraitGate wants his yard mowed." Just kidding.

StraitGate  posted on  2016-02-14   13:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada, Christine (#0)

Has the Donald gone too far in calling Iraq war ‘a big fat mistake’?

I was researching (again) the formative beginnings of the freedom4um.com blog. I think some of the long standing posters still believe the US, under GWBush, went too far in response to 911.

But, Bush's "mistake" was really founded upon US domination of the ME, primarily for oil reserves under US control. Today, it appears the need for the over-parroted "national security" BS about oil reserves is a distraction in light of changing technologies.

Pridie Nones  posted on  2016-02-14   14:18:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pridie Nones (#7)

Remember that the plans to re-draw the ME were made well-before the chimperor was ever inaugurated. The jew-neo-cons' New Pearl Harbor triggered everything since and to this very day.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-02-14   14:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lod (#8)

Remember that the plans to re-draw the ME were made well-before the chimperor was ever inaugurated.

Yes. And they had the abominable USA PATRIOT ready to go well before the events of 9/11/2001 provided the occasion to so hurriedly rush it into law. I've never met anyone who believes that the bastards wrote in less than 6 weeks 324 pages of intricate legalese that altered 15+ existing federal laws.

StraitGate  posted on  2016-02-14   15:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#0)

May I translate? The embedded gliberal cartoonist Rall thinks all GOPers should be identical and is kind enuff to coax and lead and nudge us back toward suckered conformity of mediocrity.

He thinks we should all just do like Uncle Ronnie says and think nice bland Republican thoughts together and forget going off the plantation. Yah, Trump's just trying a gimmick. Peace, Constitution, moderation, laughable antiquated (pre-9/11!) notions, huh!

9/11 changed everything, remember? That's Genesis 1:1 in the new gospel of terrorized idiocy. Yah, Iraq, just cross it off the list and forget it. Silly business!

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-02-14   15:44:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: NeoconsNailed (#10)

The embedded gliberal cartoonist Rall thinks all GOPers should be identical and is kind enuff to coax and lead and nudge us back toward suckered conformity of mediocrity.

"No one owes obedience to a usurper government or to anyone who assumes public office in violation of the Constitution and the law. The civil population has the right to rise up in defense of the constitutional order. The acts of those who usurp public office are null and void." - Ted Rall

Ted is one of the good liberals :-)

Ada  posted on  2016-02-14   16:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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