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Title: Wow Ron Paul Drops A TRUTHBOMB About Donald Trump And Hillary!!
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URL Source: http://americanspotlight.com/news/w ... bout-donald-trump-and-hillary/
Published: Mar 14, 2016
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Post Date: 2016-03-14 22:12:13 by BTP Holdings
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Views: 663
Comments: 40

Wow Ron Paul Drops A TRUTHBOMB About Donald Trump And Hillary!!

It looks like famed libertarian hero and perennial presidential candidate Ron Paul is no big fan of Donald Trump.

That’s why he said this on CNN about him:

Wow.

Ron Paul had the same anti-establishment sentiment that Trump seems to be capitalizing on, but his libertarian ideology must recoil at the big government solutions the Donald puts forth.

Trump wants to expand Medicare, and he doesn’t detail at all how he would bring down the debt, or decrease the size of government. And he’s given out many signs that he would vastly increase the power of the executive at the expense of the Constitutional checks and balances ideal.

And it really seems like Trump’s rabid following bears many similarities to those that followed Ron Paul – will they listen to the libertarian superstar of yesteryear?

What do you think? Is Ron Paul right to say that Trump isn’t ideologically any different from Hillary Clinton? Let us know in the comments section below!!


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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Oldsheimer?

Ron, you had three shots at it; leave Trump alone to do the best that he can.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-03-14   22:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Olde Ron needs to go away, far far away.

He ran like a rabbit, twice, left us with Obama.

Ron said was republican til he dies,....or someone like Trump shows up... then he likes someone else.

Time the olde fraud went away.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-03-14   22:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod, Cynicom (#1)

Ultimately Ron Paul's vision of libertarianism fails because of human frailty and corruption. These have always been with us, and always shall. They are not mutually re-enforcing feedback loops. Corruption encourages frailty in the forms of dependence and general incompetence.

"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog

Dakmar  posted on  2016-03-14   22:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

The popularity of Trump has nothing to do with libertarianism. It's instead due to anti-establishment politics, and that's what separates Trump from all the others. Trump represents an end to cronyism at the highest level. Any hope of Trump instituting libertarian policies would lie in obliterating special interests groups and exposing a lot of skeletons that have been accumulating, and thereby making sure everyone the same from garbage man to CEO exec.

That is a long shot, but it seems people are more interested in ending political corruption than they are about civil liberties. At least right now.

And of course, no one likely to win the election is offering a restoration of civil liberties, so and end to corruption is the next best thing anyway.

Of course Ron Paul would not endorse Trump, nor should he. Ron Paul represents ideals that Trump is not espousing.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-03-14   22:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#4)

it seems people are more interested in ending political corruption than they are about civil liberties.

I see them as one and the same. Humans are basically apes, and will always try to out chimp one another. Government subsidies upset the natural order, promoting the weak at the expense of the strong.

"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog

Dakmar  posted on  2016-03-14   22:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Dakmar (#3)

Corruption encourages frailty in the forms of dependence and general incompetence.

A never-ending downward spiral.

Hopefully, Trump can reverse it.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-03-14   22:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#6)

If it's never-ending then it can't be reversed, by definition. :)

The question is what happens after the GOP denies Trump the nomination?

"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog

Dakmar  posted on  2016-03-14   23:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings, Lod, Cynacom, Dakmar, Pinguinite (#0)

Trump wants to expand Medicare, and he doesn’t detail at all how he would bring down the debt, or decrease the size of government.

Trump has detailed that drugs (for Medicare) would be competitively bid, that he would eliminate several departments (education, EPA, with serious changes/elimination of the VA), eliminate Obamacare, and implement import fees to bring in revenue.

ratcat  posted on  2016-03-14   23:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#0)

Would you trust a man who was going to vote for Rand?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-03-14   23:56:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Dakmar (#3)

I wish I'd said that ! Well done.


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-03-15   0:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pinguinite (#4)

Maybe, only possibly mind you, old Ron has some skeletons in his 911 closet.

Just a thought...


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-03-15   0:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Dakmar (#7)

War, at home and abroad. Total collapse of everything except the War Party. Oh, FEMA CAMPS TOO.


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-03-15   0:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Yeah how about your NeoCON son !? What a hoser you turned out to be Ron.

Wouldn't say shit about vote manipulation if he had to eat a mouthful of poop flavored Ron Paul ballots in the dumpster out back of a GOP caucus.

Feh


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-03-15   0:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Hi Ron!

Just wanted to say- you should have quit while you were ahead. Before lying to your supporters about making that deal with Romney. People gave you blood money, Ron and you took it. You and Jesse spouted some nonsense lies about "Delegates", remember? Your love of money took you down. Too bad, really because if that wasn't bad enough, your idiot neo-con kid kinda ruined your 30 years of work.

Hope to never hear from you again,
A Former Supporter

PS: I'm voting Trump, not because you don't want me to, but because he just might be able to bring some jobs and dignity (something you lost) back to America. You know what JOBS are, right Ron? Of course you do, you delivered milk around 200 years ago, back when Detroit built Cars. What's your kid's position on the TPP lately? Do you even give a damn, Ron?

Aquila  posted on  2016-03-15   1:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Aquila (#14)

PS: I'm voting Trump, not because you don't want me to, but because he just might be able to bring some jobs and dignity (something you lost) back to America. You know what JOBS are, right Ron? Of course you do, you delivered milk around 200 years ago, back when Detroit built Cars. What's your kid's position on the TPP lately? Do you even give a damn, Ron?

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As from the days of the first politician to the last one who will ever breath a lie - MONEY TALKS AND BULLSHIT WALKS.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-03-15   2:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ratcat, NeoconsNailed, BTP Holdings, Lod, Dakmar, Pinguinite (#8)

Ron Paul lacks depth. He follows doctrine whether it is right or wrong. If he were President, he could not stop a Depression. He is incapable of comprehending that Debt Cancellation is what stops Depressions. I voted for him because he was anti-war. But then I also voted for Ralph Nader for the same reason. At least Nader comprehended the difference between interest and non-interest bearing currencies. I have written him and his son off.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2016-03-15   2:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, Aquila (#15)

MONEY TALKS AND BULLSHIT WALKS

That is the way it has always been, and will always be. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-03-15   4:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Dakmar (#7)

what happens after the GOP denies Trump the nomination?

If they have a brokered convention, that is what will occur. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-03-15   4:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dakmar (#5) (Edited)

Government subsidies upset the natural order, promoting the weak at the expense of the strong.

Are you talking about my disability pay? I hope not. I've worked hard over the years to qualify for that. I don't see it, though. My payee does, and I am not happy with her performance at all. I think I may fire her and take over my own affairs once again. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-03-15   4:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: BTP Holdings (#19)

Your payee = your ex? Sorry to hear it!

(Ah, the glorious aryan blond(e) angels! THANKS FOR NOTHING, hippie movement.)

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-03-15   7:50:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rotara (#13)

Wouldn't say shit about vote manipulation if he had to eat a mouthful of poop flavored Ron Paul ballots in the dumpster out back of a GOP caucus.

^^that

christine  posted on  2016-03-15   12:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Aquila (#14)

outstanding!

christine  posted on  2016-03-15   12:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: BTP Holdings (#0)

Tramp, sorry Trump, want to make America great again: FOR TRUMP. He does not care about "We the People".

Darkwing  posted on  2016-03-15   14:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Pinguinite (#4)

It's instead due to anti-establishment politics,

People aren't pro-Trump. They're anti-establishment.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2016-03-15   15:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Turtle (#24)

Yup


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-03-15   15:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: BTP Holdings (#19)

Are you talking about my disability pay? I hope not. I've worked hard over the years to qualify for that.

Not trying to pry, but did you have LTD insurance while you were working?

I'm not a completely heartless bastard, I believe there should be a safety net in society, and private, capitalist insurance programs serve that function well for functioning members of society. I'd be the first one swinging a baseball bat at a repo-man trying to get back a wheelchair by force, but fortunately for me these situations come up so rarely in life.

Assuming a 20 year lifespan of this argument, $2300 a month for a retired couple in Scottsdale will cost one hell of a lot less, long term, than $600 a month for a single parent household of any number in Gary. This is what had me riled, not Social Security or actual legitimate spending by government such as defense, but I suspect even war is mostly the same people putting other people up to it. Government should take care of the needs of the most, private charity should fill in the individual cases, this guarantees a better outcome by letting benefactors decide who is worthy of an extra friend.

"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog

Dakmar  posted on  2016-03-16   17:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All (#26)

Prolly not the best time to start a rant about intercessors...

"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog

Dakmar  posted on  2016-03-16   17:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Dakmar (#27)

I think it's a useful discussion & have no doubt it will remain friendly. Not what you meant?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-03-16   18:35:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: NeoconsNailed (#28)

I basically meant I don't need anyone telling me what I should feel, but it's always entertaining to let them try. They always limp away feeling hurt, which I've come to enjoy.

Want to buy some morning glory seeds?

"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog

Dakmar  posted on  2016-03-16   18:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Dakmar (#27)

intercessors

OK smarty pants, what mean?

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2016-03-16   18:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Dakmar (#29)

I basically meant I don't need anyone telling me what I should feel

Give me your brain Dakkie, I can release your pain.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2016-03-16   18:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Esso (#30)

intercessors

Go betweens, you don't understand God, they do, pray for them and get them the best toys.

"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog

Dakmar  posted on  2016-03-16   18:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Esso (#31)

Give me your brain Dakkie, I can release your pain.

Are you Herbert?

"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog

Dakmar  posted on  2016-03-16   18:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Dakmar (#33)

Are you Herbert?

Yes. I guess.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2016-03-16   18:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Esso (#34)

I'm not :(

"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog

Dakmar  posted on  2016-03-16   19:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Dakmar (#26)

did you have LTD insurance while you were working?

Nope. My disability pay comes from Social Security. I qualified for that because of my work record. Many long miles driving a truck, cross country and even a dedicated run to Florida every week. It was my first job after I moved to Missouri and it paid CASH. It was a hard and lonely life. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-03-16   20:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Dakmar (#35)

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-03-16   20:45:22 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Dakmar (#26)

I'd be the first one swinging a baseball bat at a repo-man trying to get back a wheelchair by force

I know what you mean; the world is full of cruel and heartless people. But instead of taking a baseball bat to the guy, I would pay for the disabled guy's wheelchair if I could. The repo man has a family to feed. And if nobody paid for wheelchairs, then nobody would want to manufacture them.

Government should take care of the needs of the most, private charity should fill in the individual cases

What do you mean by that?

StraitGate  posted on  2016-03-16   22:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Dakmar (#5)

Government subsidies upset the natural order, promoting the weak at the expense of the strong.

Absolutely correct. As long as the FEDS use this form of reverse BRIBERY the farce will continue. Those benefiting won't reject the system that provides for them and those paying to support the system won't reject it out of fear of FED reprisals or until they can no longer make sense out of supporting socialist policies.

Those you have tagged as strong are really weak. They would be strong if they refused to support the socialist agenda by having 30% or more stolen from them to do so.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

"White Lives Matter Most if you're white"

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2016-03-17   5:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: StraitGate (#38)

Government should take care of the needs of the most, private charity should fill in the individual cases

What do you mean by that?

Mainly that government has little to no incentive to actually help the truly needy overcome their predicaments. In fact, it has an incentive to keep them dependent, it serves to justify to the public at large ever expanding programs and reach into their personal lives (social workers, etc). If government were limited to it's proper role of protecting individual rights and property, much of the dysfunction that plagues the (now) permanent underclass would work itself out, either through the works of those with incentives to actually help, or through sheer, brutal Darwinism.

"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog

Dakmar  posted on  2016-03-17   8:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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