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Title: The Real Reason America Dropped The Atomic Bomb. It Was Not To End The War
Source: Collective Evolution
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/03 ... ason-truman-dropped-atom-bomb/
Published: Mar 19, 2016
Author: Arjun Walia
Post Date: 2016-03-19 10:54:27 by Ada
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Views: 619
Comments: 26

On August 6, 1945, the world, sadly, entered the atomic age. Without warning, a single nuclear bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima killed about 90,000 people instantly and injured many others — who then died from radiation sickness. Three days later, a second atomic strike on the city of Nagasaki killed some 37,000 people and injured another 43,000. Together the two bombs eventually killed an estimated 200,000 Japanese civilians.

“The Library of Congress adds roughly 60 million pages to its holdings each year, a huge cache of information for the public. However, also each year, the U.S. Government classifies nearly ten times that amount – an estimated 560 million pages of documents. For scholars engaged in political, historical, scientific, or any other archival work, the grim reality is that most of their government’s activities are secret.” – Richard Dolan, historian, author (source) (you can read more about what is known as the “black budget” here)

The point above is significant. How can we really know anything about American history if a considerable portion of it remains classified? That being said, how can we really know anything about American history when we have so many examples of dishonesty and misinformation? What will the history books say about 9/11? We will have to wait and see, but what our history books tell us about the atomic bomb and why it was dropped seems to be a complete lie, at least according to some very credible sources.

We are often taught that the use of the atomic bomb was necessary to end the war with Japan at the earliest possible moment, but judging by the statements of many high ranking political and military personnel, this is simply not the case.

General/President Dwight Eisenhower discusses this in his 1963 memoir, The White House Years: Mandate for Change, 1953-1956 (pp. 312-313). When he was informed in mid-July 1945 by Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson of the decision to use the atomic bomb, he was deeply troubled.

“I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to [Stimson] my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face.’ ” (source)

“The Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing… I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon.” (source)

Given what I mentioned at the start of this article, I think it’s also important to note that Eisenhower also said (in his farewell address) that:

“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. . . . Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful message and goals.” (source)

Did this “misplaced power” influence the decision to drop the atomic bomb? It’s impossible to say for sure, but it seems absurd to not consider the possibility.

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” – Woodrow Wilson, from his book The New Freedom(1913)

Another great example comes from General Douglas MacArthur, who sent a 40-page memorandum to President Roosevelt that clearly outlines five different surrender overtures from high ranking Japanese officials. This memo was also revealed on the front page of the Chicago Tribune and the Washington Times on August 19th, 1945.

Again, the memo unequivocally states that the Japanese were offering to surrender. What is even more eye-opening is the fact that the surrender terms were practically identical to what was ultimately accepted by the Americans after the bomb had dropped. The memo (source) stated these terms:

Complete surrender of all Japanese forces and arms, at home, on island possessions, and in occupied countries. Occupation of Japan and its possessions by Allied troops under American direction. Japanese relinquishment of all territory seized during the war, as well as Manchuria, Korea, and Taiwan. Regulation of Japanese industry to halt production of any weapons and other tools of war Release of all prisoners of war and internees Surrender of designated war criminals Japan also made multiple attempts to end the war through Sweden and Portugal, who were neutral at the time. They also approached Soviet Russia’s leaders “with a view of terminating the war if possible by September.” (source)

Here is a quote from Deputy Director of the Office of Naval Intelligence, Ellis Zacharias:

Just when the Japanese were ready to capitulate, we went ahead and introduced to the world the most devastating weapon it had ever seen and, in effect, gave the go-ahead to Russia to swarm over Eastern Asia.

Washington decided that Japan had been given its chance and now it was time to use the A-bomb.

I submit that it was the wrong decision. It was wrong on strategic grounds. And it was wrong on humanitarian grounds. (source)

Similarly, Admiral Leahy, Chief of Staff to presidents Roosevelt and Truman, later commented:

It is my opinion that the use of the barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan … The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons … My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.(source)

There have also been some disturbing remarks like this one:

On September 9, 1945, Admiral William F. Halsey, commander of the Third Fleet, was publicly quoted as stating that the atomic bomb was used because the scientists had a “toy and they wanted to try it out…” He further stated that “the first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment” and that it was“a mistake to ever drop it.” (source)

He said this despite the fact that most prominent scientists were completely against it. The scientists involved with the Manhattan project even wrote to the Secretary of Defense to try to encourage him not to drop the bomb.

So ask yourself, why did they really drop the bomb? A number of theories have been proposed;history.com outlines how it could have been dropped to demonstrate a new weapon of mass destruction to the Soviets, ultimately serving as a show of military strength. In 2005, New Scientist alluded to the same thing, claiming that it was done to kick start the Cold War.

“The conventional wisdom that the atomic bomb saved a million lives is so widespread that (quite apart from the inaccuracy of this figure, as noted by Samuel Walker) most Americans haven’t paused to ponder something rather striking to anyone seriously concerned with the issue: Not only did most top U.S. military leaders think the bombings were unnecessary and unjustified, many were morally offended by what they regarded as the unnecessary destruction of Japanese cities and what were essentially noncombat populations. Moreover, they spoke about it quite openly and publicly.” – Gar Alperovitz, University of Maryland Professor of Political Economy, former Legislative Director in the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate, and Special Assistant in the Department of State (source)

What’s My Point?

What I am trying to do here is get readers to think. If it was clearly unceccessary to drop the bomb if it didn’t have to be done, then what is the justification? Despite the fierce opposition from the various military and political leaders and the fact that Japan was ready to surrender, it was still dropped.

War does not serve a purpose in our world, but the unfortunate reality is that there are many people who thrive and profit off of conflict. 9/11 is a perfect example — a supposed ‘terrorist’ attack used to justify the infiltration of the Middle East.

There are more oddities, like the information suggesting that both sides of the war were funded by the same group. You can read more about that here.

Have we learned from our mistake? The fact that nuclear weapons even exist is a discouraging fact, and I am ashamed to be part of a race who has developed so many of them. It would be great if we could use our brilliant minds/science to advance ourselves as a civilization, not destroy it.

We need to learn from our history, not accept textbook explanations that paint a false picture of it. That being said, we have come a long way since 1945; it’s clear that the majority of people on this planet prefer to live in a peaceful world, so why are there so many obstacles in place preventing us from doing so?

Related CE Article:

Why Are UFOs Shutting Down Nuclear Missles

Sources:

www.colorado.e du /AmStudies/lewis/2010/atomicdec.htm

www.history.com/this-day-in-history/atomic-bomb-dropped-on- hiroshima

www.garalperovitz.com/2011/08/on-the-sixty-sixth-anniversary-of-the- bombing-of-hiroshima/

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/aug/06/secondworldwar.warcrimes

www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html

www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-reason-america-used-nuclear-weapons- against-japan-it-was-not-to-end-the-war-or-save-lives/5308192

www.huffingtonpost.com/sheldon-drobny/god-damn-americas-media- r_b_91773.html

Reprinted with permission from Collective Evolution.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

The United Nations Exposed: Who Is In Control?

roths rockaWe are told that the United Nations (UN) is an international organization that aims to facilitate co-operation through social progress, economic development, international security and international law.  They promote themselves, and are outwardly promoted as a reputable body that deals with peace, security, development, human rights and humanitarian affairs. With this being the case it’s no surprise to see the UN at the forefront of all international conflict and instability, since these exact events give them the ideal atmosphere to promote themselves as bringers of all that I previously mentioned. Throughout history, authoritative figures have always tried to paint a perception of themselves in hopes of influencing and brainwashing the masses into a desired agenda.

By promoting themselves, I am referring to the UN’s use of mainstream media networks, like CNN. CNN is owned by Time Warner (1), which is owned by JP Morgan Chase and Company and Dodge & Cox Inc, to name a few (2). It also has a select group of direct holders, like Jeffrey L. Bewkes. Mr. Bewkes sits in the head office of Time Warner’s two towers built in 2001 -buildings purposely built to resemble the once standing World Trade Centers of New York City. Bewkes is also a member of The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) (3),which is headed and funded by the Rothschild and Rockefeller families (4)(5). In fact a large majority of mainstream media network owners are all members of the CFR, as well as the trilateral commission. Another example of this is Richard D. Parsons. who served as Time Warner’s Chairman of the Board from May 2003 to January 2009. Currently Mr. Parsons is a member of the Board of Trustees and is a Senior Advisor to the Rockefeller Foundation(6). I could even go on to look at Frank J. Caufield, another major direct holder of Time Warner Corp, who is also a member of the CFR(7). Let me remind you again, that CNN is owned by Time Warner Corp, which is owned by a number of individuals and corporations that are run by a few families. These families hide behind the corporations they run, using the employees and politicians they hire to do their dirty work. Why we continue to hand our perception of what is happening on the planet to a select few who show no regard for the human race is beyond me. As a child, I did not understand how a human being could have such negative intentions, and create so much conflict through the use of trickery. To this day I still believe that a human being cannot do what these “governing bodies” and multinational corporations do. Whether or not it holds the same effect on you, I hope the connections above at least raise an eyebrow for you.

There is no need for me to point out the JP Morgan (major institutional holder of Time Warner)/ Rockefeller connections, which also played a big role in the creation of the Federal Reserve System in 1912. So what does all this have to do with the United Nations?  Well, the same ones that own all of our mainstream media networks, also own, run and created the United Nations. The owners of the United Nations use their media networks to influence the perception of billions of people. Not many people know that our mainstream media networks are owned by less than 5 multinational corporations, and all of these corporations have ties to the Rothschild and Rockefeller families. If you dive in even further, all of the same corporations are directly related to suppressing clean energy technologies, like General Electric. You can find out more about free energy suppression here. More ties can be made in the food and medical industries as well. Our planet is owned by a small group of families and the corporations they run, this is no longer a secret, no longer a conspiracy theory. It’s becoming evident that these “people” do not have our best intentions at hand.

League of Nations/Treaty of Versailles

The forerunner to the United Nations, was the league of Nations. It was created under the treaty of versailles in 1919 (8)(14).  Many believe the idea of the UN’s creation was due to the second world war, it wasn’t. A plan for global control through a well disguised body of peace started long before 1945. The League of Nations was an intergovernmental organization created at the Paris peace conference that ended the First World War. Development of international organizations due to conflict is a way of trickery. The UN was created in 1945 as a result of World War 2. Anytime there is global conflict, something is created out of that conflict, to give the illusion that whatever is created out of that conflict is a direct solution to that conflict. Have you ever thought that the ones who created the conflict, are doing so in order to propose the solution? What a scam that would be, wouldn’t it? What a trick, using and controlling our will. Handing our will over to those who look to take advantage of us, to those that are not in service to others, but to themselves.  The League of Nations was created by the Rockefeller Family, they were responsible for funding the entire operation(9). At the same time, the International Labour Organization was developed, which is and was heavily funded by the Rockefeller and Rothschild families(10). It is clear that the Rockefeller and Rothschild families both created the United Nations, without them the development of this global organization would not be possible.

The Same Groups That Funded Nazi Germany Created The United Nations? Both Sides of the War Were Funded by the Same Group?

A key question we must ask ourselves when it comes to international global governing bodies is, who is in charge? Who is making the decisions? What connections can be made between the United Nations and the other major governing bodies of planet Earth? How often do we ask these questions? And how often do we make the connections? If the United Nations was created for peace and stability in conflicting War time, why would the same parties fund both sides of the war? Was it just for profit, or did they want to create War, to create government bodies that would control our entire planet? The United Nations has branched off into the World Health Organization, which has other branched within it like Codex Alimentarius and the Food and Drug Administration.

I’m talking about Paul M. Warburg, a German-born banker, who was an appointed member of the Federal Reserve System, on the board of governors(11). Isn’t the Federal Reserve a United States entity? He was heavily involved with the creation of the Federal Reserve, and his family was heavily involved with I.G Farben. I.G Farben was the largest chemical company in the world during its time, and one of the largest industrial booms next to the Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Company, and General Motors. I.G Farben was responsible for numerous war crimes, supplying the Nazis with weapons and even funding the Nazi party(12)(13). Why would the federal reserve system and the Rockefeller’s be involved with I.G Farben? Isn’t the federal reserve an American entity? Did they not fund the United States as well? Paul Warburg and his family were involved with the creation of the Federal Reserve, the Warburg family headed I.G Farben, a company that supported the Nazi movement. So what is going on here? There is a lot of evidence to show that both sides of World War II were funded by the same people, so I think a “fast one” has been pulled over our eyes. The Federal Reserve is still in tight with the Warburg family, as they have transformed themselves into several multinational corporations and financial institutions, like Warburg Pincus(15)(16).

It’s no secret that the Bush family also heavily profited from the war. Did you know that the Bush family also had members connected to the federal reserve, and that the Bush family is also very close to the Rockefeller family?(17).  It’s not a secret that the presidency has always been connected to the Federal Reserve. Prescott Bush even worked for the Nazis, he worked with and profited from companies that were funding Hitler. With all of these connections, it is easy to see how the real founders of the United Nations (if you follow the money) were connected to many inhumane acts. So what makes you think it has stopped today? What if the United Nations give you the illusion of a peace making body, in order to drive chaos, fear, and to fulfill an agenda that started long before we were all born? How can the UN protect us against mining corporations for example, that commit atrocities all over the world, when the same ones who created the UN own all of the major mining corps, like the Rockefeller Hughes Corporation(18). I’ve provided sources for all of my claims, at the same time I like to leave a few out to inspire the readers to do some research. Feel free to look into the Bush connections yourself! Keep in mind, I’ve used only a few examples and connections in this article, there is a tremendous amount that you can make on your own if you are sparked to further your research.

One aspect of the current consciousness shift is waking up to new facts and possibilities of what really happened in our recent human history. Many people take different paths to awakening, but in the end it all leads to one thing: we have to be the change we want to see. We’ve seen a lot of turmoil throughout the years on this planet, and in turn it’s created a very dense energetic state for planet Earth. More people are starting to find peace, they are experiencing more joy and desire change for all on planet Earth. Through awakening, we are changing the vibrational frequency of the planet. We’ve been blind to many things for thousands of years. We are living in the age of transparency, everything has presented itself for us to see from the “darkest” experiences to the “lightest”. Either way you look at it, everything that has and is playing out on planet Earth is all an experience for the human race. Events happen, in order to jolt us into waking up to truth. 9/11 for example, woke many up. Whether it’s the truth about hemp, the federal reserve, the illuminati, extraterrestrials, spreading love, or anything else, the age of transparency is leading to a new truth within billions of people, and that truth is love. Love is required as a necessary building block for a new world. We are responsible for what is happening here, when we awaken from our sleep, I’m sure we won’t let continue what we’ve let continue for so long. No longer will we be used to uphold a system that does not resonate with us, instead we will create a new one that makes the old one obsolete.

There are multiple sources that go beyond mine, I could have used many more. Please feel free to do your own research to further verify some facts.

 Sources:

(1) http://www.timewarner.com/our-content/turner-broadcasting-system/

(2) http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=TWX

(3)http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=867387&ticker=TWX

(4)http://www.cfr.org/world/council-foreign-relations-special-symposium-honor-david-rockefellers-90th-birthday/p8133

(5)http://www.cfr.org/experts/world/david-rockefeller/b987

(6) http://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/about-us/board-trustees/richard-d-parsons

(7)http://www.usrf.ru/structure/board_caufield.html

(8) http://www.un.org/en/aboutun/history/index.shtml

(9)http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2012/sgsm14498.doc.htm

(10) http://ebha-bhsj-paris.sciencesconf.org/6318/document

(11)http://www.federalreserve.gov/bios/boardmembership.htm

(12) http://www.houseofpaine.org/IGF.htm

(13)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_family

(14) http://www.versailles3d.com/en/over-the-centuries/xxe/1924.html

(15)http://search.newyorkfed.org/board_public/search?text=warburg&Search.x=0&Search.y=0

(16)http://www.warburgpincus.co

(17)http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

(18)http://rockefellerhughes.com

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-03-19   11:43:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

Horseshit...

Conscience, AFTER THE FACT, is pure horseshit.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-03-19   11:44:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

President Obama brought a new attitude to America’s conduct abroad, but he has done shockingly little to improve on Bush II’s record. In some respects he has worsened thing

I guess you could say that all right!!

Fantastic article and ultimate quotes. Sources too, even the IHR -- what is this Lew Rockwell Jue-sanitized world coming to????

The quotes show that even the monsters themselves don't even want the monstrosity half the time. Eisenhower didn't want to bomb even after all his own war crimes, Wilson regretted the deep state and mumbled a few words of warning about it. Candice Bergen was a libertine actress but didn't want Murphy brown to have a child O.W., Jane Rowe (Norma McCorvey) never wanted to be the fulcrum on which open season was called on the unborn, and has even became a prolife crusader........

"The Library of Congress adds roughly 60 million pages to its holdings each year, a huge cache of information for the public. However, also each year, the U.S. Government classifies nearly ten times that amount – an estimated 560 million pages of documents." They classify a half-billion pages MORE than they release each year, almost 10 times as much.

Hold the phone..... at .0916mm sheet thickness, wouldn't that be a pile of paper 51 km high? Where's it all coming from, where do they put it all? 'Twould take 300 computers scanning a page each every 5 seconds to do it in a year.

(Sure, but not that one :-)

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-03-19   13:44:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#0)

The Cold War was a myth; a total fabrication.


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-03-19   14:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#2)

Conscience, AFTER THE FACT, is pure horseshit.

Its called remorse, something HST did not have; but some military leaders who were not consulted beforehand felt it.

Ada  posted on  2016-03-19   15:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: NeoconsNailed (#3)

Hold the phone..... at .0916mm sheet thickness, wouldn't that be a pile of paper 51 km high? Where's it all coming from, where do they put it all? 'Twould take 300 computers scanning a page each every 5 seconds to do it in a year.

Paper is obsolete. Stuff goes directly from one computer to the Library of Congress computer, and who know what editing has gone on along the way. I'm thinking of the bills Congress passes which may have had words deleted and added in the process.

No doubt its cheaper to maintain those Australian 2 bedrooms :-)

Ada  posted on  2016-03-19   15:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#1)

The UN was created to have five countries control the world through the Security Council. Didn't quite work which is why we now have NATO as the fig leaf for US aggression.

Ada  posted on  2016-03-19   15:56:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada (#6)

Mebbe cheaper than to maintain a push mower :-?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-03-19   16:01:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#2)

Conscience, AFTER THE FACT, is pure horseshit.

It is indeed. I knew a few guys in Chicago with absolutely no conscience. They did what they pleased and the world be damned. Many of them ended up in prison. I was one of the lucky ones. I got a good job with the State of Illinois. This was my reward for working with the politicians. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-03-19   16:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: NeoconsNailed (#8)

Mebbe cheaper than to maintain a push mower :-?

That's just about as low maintenance as you can get :-)

Ada  posted on  2016-03-19   16:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings (#9)

The Daley admin, by chance?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-03-19   16:32:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: NeoconsNailed, HAPPY2BME-4UM, Ada, BTP Holdings (#11)

The Zionist War party wanted to use the bomb. That is all the explanation you need. The Germans tried to surrender before WW II started (March 1939). All 58 million war deaths occurred after the Jews said No to peace.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2016-03-19   16:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: NeoconsNailed (#11)

But Swedish meatballs taste very, very good.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2016-03-19   16:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Horse (#13)

I know -- I went to a Luther'n college

Listening to this -- we used to have Fritz speak at NJ Populist Party mtgs. He had Holohoax-busting slideshow and brilliant narrative. Miss those days!

codoh.com/library/document/4039/

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-03-19   17:07:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ada (#5)

Its called remorse, something HST did not have; but some military leaders who were not consulted beforehand felt it.

Nonsense Ada...

During the Korean war, our A bomb targets were in Russia ONLY, Ike took over in 1953, our targets REMAINED EXACTLY THE SAME.

There was not one iota of remorse by Ike. Not one thing was changed.

It is called the real world Ada.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-03-19   17:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#15)

During the Korean war, our A bomb targets were in Russia ONLY,

Of course. The USSR was our real target when we bombed Japan. We wanted to demonstrate what our new toy was capable of.

Ada  posted on  2016-03-19   18:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ada (#16)

We wanted to demonstrate what our new toy was capable of.

ReallY????

When Truman took over in April 1945, he had never heard of the A bomb.

The intended target was Germany, wipe it off the map but the war in Europe was at an end. World Jewry would sell their souls to see it used on the cursed Nazis.

Had Germany been eradicated, we would NOT be having this discussion.

The A bomb was not ready for use before Germany surrendered, this saddened world jewry then as now.

Truman saw that to bring Japan down would cost 500,000 young American lives.

Tv education in America today shows.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-03-19   18:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#17)

When Germany surrendered too early, then the question was how to show the USSR what they would face if they got uppity. Therefore, Japan would not be permitted to surrender until the demonstration could be made.

Ada  posted on  2016-03-19   20:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ada (#16) (Edited)

The USSR was our real target when we bombed Japan. We wanted to demonstrate what our new toy was capable of.

Yes, and the Soviets saw this without batting an eye. They had the Rosenbergs to thank for the plans to the A-bomb. Of course the Soviets did not know we only had two bombs. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-03-19   20:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ada (#18)

When Germany surrendered too early, then the question was how to show the USSR what they would face if they got uppity. Therefore, Japan would not be permitted to surrender until the demonstration could be made.

That is exact word for word espousal of world jewry/communist, history revisionists.

No mention of the 500,000 American kids that would have died.

Bleeding hearts NEVER mention that both Germany and Japan were busy trying to perfect an A bomb?

Of course they, being nice people, would never have used such on the United States...

Cynicom  posted on  2016-03-19   20:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Horse (#12)

The Germans tried to surrender before WW II started (March 1939).

When Hitler sent German troops into the Ruhr, and France and Britain did nothing, he knew he had them whipped. The Ruhr was the demilitarized zone. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-03-19   20:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#20)

Of course they, being nice people, would never have used such on the United States...

The Germans used the V-1 or buzz bombs, on Britain, and later on the V-2, which was more silent and deadly with bigger warhead. Germany was trying to use "heavy water" to perfect the A-bomb, but that was the wrong route. The Jewish scientists used Uranium and Plutonium in the "hell bomb". ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-03-19   20:51:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: BTP Holdings (#21)

In March of 1939 the Chief of Staff General Beck and the Chief of Naval Intelligence Admiral Canaris sent two officers to London to negotiate a surrender. They offered to arrest Hitler. His Majesty's Jewish government refused to let them surrender.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2016-03-19   21:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Horse (#23)

In March of 1939 the Chief of Staff General Beck and the Chief of Naval Intelligence Admiral Canaris sent two officers to London to negotiate a surrender. They offered to arrest Hitler. His Majesty's Jewish government refused to let them surrender.

I believe you. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-03-19   22:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: BTP Holdings (#24) (Edited)

Just like the japs offered to surrender in deecee, and were refused.

Churchill and Roosevelt wanted the war to go on forever.

And it has.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-03-19   22:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: NeoconsNailed (#11)

The Daley admin, by chance?

Nope. I was with the opposition. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-03-20   8:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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