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Title: Donald Trump: women who get illegal abortions should be 'punished'
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URL Source: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ ... ump-women-abortions-punishment
Published: Mar 30, 2016
Author: The Guardian
Post Date: 2016-03-30 18:11:14 by christine
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Views: 2113
Comments: 81
Women who have illegal abortions should be punished, Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump said on Wednesday. Trump was asked by MSNBC’s Chris Matthews to define his “pro-life” stance and assertions that abortion should be banned. “Do you believe in punishment for abortion – yes or no – as a principle?” asked Matthews, during the taping of a town hall event. “The answer is there has to be some form of punishment,” said Trump. “For the woman?” Matthews said. “Yeah, there has to be some form,” Trump replied. “Ten cents, 10 years, what?” Matthews asked again, pressing. “That I don’t know,” said Trump. Asked about a ban, the Republican frontrunner said that people would circumvent it: “Well, you go back to a position like they had where they would perhaps go to illegal places, but we have to ban it.” 'No hate in our state': undercover protesters take on Trump in Wisconsin Read more The 90-second exchange is likely to inflame Democratic pro-choice advocates, Republicans who have criticized Trump for flip-flopping on the issue, and anti-abortion advocates who may call Trump’s comments a misunderstanding of their stance. In a 1999 interview, Trump described himself as “pro-choice in every respect”, and also said he would not “ban abortion” if he was ever elected president. But his position as a presidential candidate has changed starkly. Trump later tried to clarify his position in a statement, but stopped short of retracting his view stated on MSNBC that women should be punished. However, Trump seemed to acknowledge that the establishment of any anti-abortion law would fall to Congress or state legislatures. “If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed – like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions,” the statement said. Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton called the comments “horrific and telling”. Planned Parenthood Action Fund, the political arm of America’s best-known abortion provider, said the statements were tantamount to an incitement of violence. The Susan B Anthony List, an anti-abortion group, attempted to clarify the position of the anti-abortion lobby, calling Trump a “convert” to the movement. “[Let] us be clear: punishment is solely for the abortionist who profits off of the destruction of one life and the grave wounding of another,” said president Marjorie Dannenfelser in a statement. The exchange prompted immediate questions for other Republican candidates about how they would enforce an “abortion ban”. Ohio governor and Republican nominee hopeful John Kasich told Chuck Todd the same afternoon that punishing women who have illegal abortions, in the hypothetical situation that there were a ban, was not “an appropriate response”. Poster Comment: Why didn't Trump think to say it's a state's rights issue, not a POTUS issue. This is really going to add fuel to the misogynist fire. He has got to be more prepared with his answers to questions like these.
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#14. To: All (#0)
Here's just a taste of what's coming. this fuckin piece of shit should have been aborted...#StrikeWomen #StandWithWomen Guess having him as a son was punishment enough for his mother unless he was hatched.
We may not agree on abortion but we'd have to agree that Trump's response was beyond amateurish ... could it be that Trump got a message from the real power ? Has someone told the billionaire brat to sit down and shut up but try not to be too obvious ? Maybe the real power has instructed the Donald to ease himself out of the contest without declaring his family has been threatened like Perot's ... just maybe.
Rethink it.... To my knowledge Trump is the ONLY one that has repeated over and over that ...Christianity is under siege worldwide... None of the other politicians nor the media will touch that with a ten foot pole.
To my knowledge Trump is the ONLY one that has repeated over and over that ...Christianity is under siege worldwide... None of the other politicians nor the media will touch that with a ten foot pole. I guess time will tell. I do appreciate your opinion. I do not trust anything FEDERAL or anyone that joins that club. I've witnessed these vermin manipulate the people of our country my entire lifetime. I've seen enough of their perpetual antics and propaganda. All I will say in their favor is that they're very good at being terrible.
Case in point... Trump ad libs a lot of flubs that are off base. However now and again he inserts some small item that no one questions, or complains about etc. Case in point, his assertions about siege on Christianity has brought zero comments, ridicule or otherwise. Another...One night he stated why we are in Afghanistan, something the government nor anyone else will talk about. From the nay sayers and media, not a whisper, total silence. Trump is not stupid.
Say what we will about Alex Jones; psyop or Patriot. He believes Trump is 'one of us'. fwiw
True... That is why the establishment is in a bind. Now he is not promising to back a pub candidate, the system is in a dither. First time in my lifetime that big money has not run the election. Lets suppose Trump wins. There is NO ONE in the establishment can make a phone call and make him do what they want done. I like that. I will vote twice for Trump.
That is a pretty broad statement if we consider that the real international banking/corporate establishment isn't the least bit concerned about how many people they murder to maintain control. It's probably true with regard to someone in the establishment trying to bribe Trump with money but we all have an Achilles heel in having family members that we love open to attack.
No... Well, when we choose, lets look at the alternative, Hillary Clinton..... Shot or hung??? Then one could abstain, something I have done for a very long time. Hillary is standing on the stern saying she will save the the Titanic and all its people. Trump has a leaky lifeboat and a pair of "oars". I will take my chances cause I think the Titanic is gonna go down.
Let's don't ! Geez, the alternative ! Ya gotta be shittin me ! I really believe that at some point good people would realize that they have nothing in common with these vermin. I mean, they might just once in their materialistic existence decide to quit doing business with the devil because the price is death. In the Good Book, Christ says let the dead bury the dead. I see the voting public as the (spiritually and mentally) dead. So arguing which of the vermin is the better choice is irrelevant. They are all murderers and liars. EDIT: The scriptures refer to a dog returning to eat its own vomit ... that is a very good description of voting.
NO... Well, there is the alternative, a GOOD military coup???? For the young that might not be so good, for us oldies it would be great to settle olde scores with the vermin that inhabit Washington. Line em up, give em a choice, SHOT OR HUNG. Sick and tired of this PC bullshit.
For the young that might not be so good, for us oldies it would be great to settle olde scores with the vermin that inhabit Washington. Line em up, give em a choice, SHOT OR HUNG. Sick and tired of this PC bullshit. D.C. is not the solution it is the problem. Condoning the existence of this cancer is tantamount to being the cancer. Participating in the furtherance of the D.C. agenda is an admittance of agreement with it.
The expatriate communities are swelling down here.
#78. To: Rotara (#76)
We'd join you, were we able.
I'm sure they are and for good reason. If I had a young family I might have done the same. (I have expatriated from the FEDERAL GOVT).
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#22. To: christine (#14)
#29. To: noone222 (#22)
Maybe the real power has instructed the Donald to ease himself out of the contest without declaring his family has been threatened like Perot's ... just maybe.
#32. To: Cynicom (#29)
Rethink it....
#33. To: noone222 (#32)
#36. To: Cynicom (#33)
#40. To: Rotara (#36)
He believes Trump is 'one of us'. fwiw
#57. To: Cynicom (#40)
There is NO ONE in the establishment can make a phone call and make him do what they want done.
#60. To: noone222 (#57)
That is a pretty broad statement if
#62. To: Cynicom (#60)
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Well, when we choose, lets look at the alternative, Hillary Clinton.....
#63. To: noone222 (#62)
#65. To: Cynicom (#63)
Well, there is the alternative, a GOOD military coup????
#76. To: noone222 (#65)
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#80. To: Rotara (#76)
The expatriate communities are swelling down here.
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