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Dead Constitution See other Dead Constitution Articles Title: The Surprising Reason You Might Agree With 1 Democrat’s Fight to Put Guns in Criminals’ Hands The Surprising Reason You Might Agree With 1 Democrat’s Fight to Put Guns in Criminals’ Hands Screen Shot 2016-03-21 at 2.35.01 PM The United States of America has a funny way of guaranteeing the rights of its citizens. In essence the constitution protects your rights while you remain a law abiding citizen. If you’re ever guilty of a crime many of those rights are taken from you. You essentially become property of the state and are treated differently than a private citizen. When released some of the rights afforded to the convicted are restored to them. Things like freedom of speech, freedom from self incrimination. One of the rights not returned to you, no matter what kind of crime you committed (for felonies) is the right to own a gun again. A lot of people are against this provision. They ask how can the government prevent people from owning a weapon for self protection? And one man his doing his darnedest to see those rights are restored to non-violent felons. Guns.com writes: A Nevada businessman is seeking a class action lawsuit against the federal government on behalf of millions of felons currently denied the right to bear arms. Filed in U.S. District Court on March 15 is a suit against Attorney Gen. Loretta Lynch and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Deputy Director Thomas E. Brandon, in their official roles in implementing current federal law that labels convicted felons as prohibited firearms possessors. The plaintiff in the case, Las Vegas resident Barry Michaels, served time for white-collar crimes in the 1990s, and is currently running for public office, but can’t legally own a gun. “It makes no sense to me that I’m able to serve in Congress or even become President of the United States, but ‘me and Martha Stuart’ are both barred for the rest of our lives from owning a firearm to protect ourselves and our loved ones,” said Michaels in a statement. “Something is wrong with this picture. The idea of creating second class citizens contradicts the clear language of the Second Amendment.” The suit argues that non-violent felons who completed their sentences more than five years ago and have not committed any crimes since release should not be denied the right to own a firearm provided they do not fail the other prohibited possessor tests such as being a drug user, on probation, or dishonorably discharged from the military. In all, Michaels estimates there could be as many as five million Americans that fit those parameters. [T]here is no empirical data available or any rational basis to suggest that prohibiting a non-violent felon from possessing a firearm would do anything to prevent him/her from committing another non-violent crime, nor is there anything…to suggest otherwise,” argues his legal team in their 21-page filing. “The Second Amendment contains no express or implied limitation on the right of any citizen, including felons, to keep and bear arms.” Michaels, a former chiropractor, is currently running as a crowd-funded Democrat candidate for the U.S. 3rd Congressional District race against a crowded field that includes Republican state Sen. Michele Fiore and Democratic Assemblywoman Olivia Diaz. As part of his platform, he advocates nuclear disarmament, immigration reform with a path to citizenship, forgiving student loans and prison sentencing reform. The subject of felony convictions in the 1990s for tax and securities fraud in association with a “no-frills” airline venture called Family Airlines, which never took to the air, Michaels served 15 months in prison and has long been pursuing another aviation project, Avatar Airlines, which is seeking to raise $300 million to purchase planes. His name surfaced again recently as being at one time associated with a non-profit by the name of MiniCare which allegedly fleeced a New Jersey woman of more than $25,000 in donations — though he stresses he cut ties with the group years ago. As far as raising money goes, while he says in a statement there is no cost to members to join the class action suit, the first link on the website set up for information is on how to join is to make a donation to help pay legal costs. The case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge Jennifer A. Dorsey. If you think about it he’s absolutely right. Committing a white collar crime shouldn’t preclude you from owning a gun. The truth about human nature is we are dynamic creatures. Just because we act one way during one point in our lives doesn’t mean we always have to be that way later. So if a criminal makes amends and restitution and then decides they are going to live a noble and upstanding life later on they should be afforded the rights enumerated for self protection in the constitution. And of course for the most part it obviously makes sense a violent criminal not be provided that kind of leniency…however even then circumstances might provide a reason for complete restitution. Poster Comment: White collar crime? Should they be allowed to own a firearm? Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
There should be no punishment for life, after you've done your time. After you've paid your "debt to society" you have a clean slate. Don't screw up again.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Catch and release cold-blooded murderers? No! "We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog
Cold-blooded murderers should be executed.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Go tell Loretta
"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog
Lynch should be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
LOL, we've damned near won this round, don't back down! "We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog
We worked the Beach Boys in Chicago back in the 80s. There were a few Beach Babes running around wearing bikinis. I asked one of them, "Are you really from California?" She said, "Yes." ROTFLOL! I saw the Beach Boys on the AXS channel not long ago, but they didn't have any Beach Babes running around. Those young girls don't want to hang around with those old guys. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
They grit their teeth, they don't back down!!!!!
"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog
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