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Title: Creationists: can they be scientists? You bet!
Source: Answers In Genesis
URL Source: http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/wow/preview/part9.asp
Published: Feb 11, 2006
Author: Pam S. Sheppard
Post Date: 2006-02-11 17:02:42 by A K A Stone
Keywords: Creationists:, scientists?, they
Views: 2092
Comments: 382

As an astrophysicist, Dr. Jason Lisle (author of chapters 5, 6, and 10 of War of the Worldviews) knows that a belief in molecules-to-man evolution is not needed to understand how planets orbit the sun or how telescopes operate. While some evolutionists are spreading the false idea that creationists can’t be real scientists, Lisle is busy doing real science.

In fact, he (along with hundreds of other scientists) knows that science works perfectly well without any connection to evolution. Dr. David Menton, cell biologist and popular AiG speaker and writer, has often said that although it is widely believed, “evolution contributes nothing to our understanding of empirical science and thus plays no essential role in biomedical research or education.”

As Lisle points out in this chapter, even the rise of technology is not due to a belief in evolution. He writes, “Computers, cellular phones and DVD players all operate based on the laws of physics, which God created. It is because God created a logical, orderly universe and gave us the ability to reason and to be creative that technology is possible.”

So, why are there such differences between evolutionary scientists and creation scientists if both groups have the same evidence? Lisle addresses these differing conclusions by explaining that each group starts with different assumptions when interpreting evidence. Creationists and evolutionists have a different view of history, but the way they do science in the present is the same.

Lisle writes that both creationists and evolutionists use observation and experimentation to draw conclusions about nature. Since observational scientific theories are capable of being tested in the present, creationists and evolutionists generally agree on these models. For instance, they agree on the nature of gravity, the composition of stars, the speed of light in a vacuum, the size of the solar system, etc.

On the other hand, historical events cannot be checked scientifically in the present. We don’t have access to the past. As Lisle points out, we can make educated guesses about the past and can make inferences from fossils and rocks, but we cannot directly test our conclusions because past events cannot be repeated.

With evolutionists and creationists having such different views of history, is it any wonder that each group arrives at such varying interpretations? Biblical creationists accept the recorded history of the Bible as their starting point while evolutionists reject this recorded history and have made up their own pseudo-history from which to interpret evidence, Lisle explains.

The fact that there are scientists who believe in biblical creation is nothing new. In this chapter, Lisle discusses several “real” scientists who believe in the Genesis account of creation, including Isaac Newton (1642–1727), who co-discovered calculus, formulated the laws of motion and gravity, and computed the nature of planetary orbits, among other things.

Today, there are many Ph.D. scientists who reject evolution and believe that God created in six days, a few thousand years ago, as recorded in Scripture. As Lisle points out, his Ph.D. research (which was completed at a secular university) was not hindered by the conviction that the early chapters of Genesis are literally true. In fact, it’s just the reverse, he writes.

“It is because a logical God created and ordered the universe that I, and other creationists, expect to be able to understand aspects of that universe through logic, careful observation and experimentation,” Lisle explains.

Lisle concludes the chapter by posing the question, “Why should there be laws of nature if there is no lawgiver?”

“If our minds have been designed, and if the universe has been constructed by God, as the Bible teaches, then of course we should be able to study nature. Science is possible because the Bible is true,” says Lisle.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Stone,

This is curious and circular reasoning. You presuppose that your theory is true to support that your theory is in fact true.

This argument is illogical.

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-12   14:50:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Feynman Lives! (#1)

hi Feynman Lives!, welcome to 4.

christine  posted on  2006-02-12   15:12:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#2)

Level 4?

Please explain...

Should I have brought my hip boots?

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-12   15:19:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Feynman Lives! (#3)

4 as in short for Freedom4um.

christine  posted on  2006-02-12   15:30:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#4)

Ahhhh.... do I get a secret decoder ring? (it would have been most useful to decode your first statement!)

:)

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-12   15:35:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Feynman Lives!, christine (#5)

Ahhhh.... do I get a secret decoder ring? (it would have been most useful to decode your first statement!)

:)

Jerk - you are certainly not a RF. He prolly would have got the connection between freedom4um and welcome to 4, ya think?

tom007  posted on  2006-02-13   0:26:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tom007 (#19)

Jerk - you are certainly not a RF. He prolly would have got the connection between freedom4um and welcome to 4, ya think?

Tom,

I never claimed to be Richard Feynman, especially because he died in 1988. I am simply a fan of his work and how he lived his life.

I have noticed that the people on this site are very big on name calling when it comes to people who disagree with them, how ironic.

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-13   0:31:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Feynman Lives! (#20)

I have noticed that the people on this site are very big on name calling when it comes to people who disagree with them, how ironic.

I didn't disagree with you, you were just being a jerk, very simple.

tom007  posted on  2006-02-13   0:50:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: tom007 (#22)

I didn't disagree with you, you were just being a jerk, very simple.

So you AGREE with me AND you call me names?

How am I being a jerk?

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-13   0:50:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Feynman Lives! (#23)

hi Feynman Lives!, welcome to 4.

"It's an Inside Job"

christine posted on 2006-02-12 15:12:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #3. To: christine (#2)

Level 4?

Please explain...

Should I have brought my hip boots?

Feynman Lives! posted on 2006-02-12 15:19:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #4. To: Feynman Lives! (#3)

4 as in short for Freedom4um.

"It's an Inside Job"

christine posted on 2006-02-12 15:30:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #5. To: christine (#4)

Ahhhh.... do I get a secret decoder ring? (it would have been most useful to decode your first statement!)

:)

Feynman Lives! posted on 2006-02-12 15:35:12 ET

If you can't figure it out...

Maybe you need to consider how you come across to others, the decoder ring statement and the "most useful" statement is fifth grade pompousness.

But I will put aside all of this and let it go - maybe you are not the troll "Richard" that got canned for being a disruptor a week or so ago (tho you really sound exactly alike).

If so, I do apologize.

tom007  posted on  2006-02-13   1:01:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tom007 (#24)

If you can't figure it out...

Maybe you need to consider how you come across to others, the decoder ring statement and the "most useful" statement is fifth grade pompousness.

But I will put aside all of this and let it go - maybe you are not the troll "Richard" that got canned for being a disruptor a week or so ago (tho you really sound exactly alike).

If so, I do apologize.

Tom,

Clearly you read the worst into EVERYTHING.

I was being PLAYFUL with Christine. "Level 4" sounded like a secret access, so I was keeping in her playful vein.

Who the hell is Richard, and what did he do to your family? I happen to be a fan of RICHARD FEYNMAN, do you have a hatred for all things Richard? (for the record, MY name is Monty - I hope you don't hate that name as well) Why are you taking all of this mis-directed anger out on ME? I didn't do anything to you and you are being King of the Assholes to me. Go talk to a counsellor.

I was looking for a site that had access to many global newspapers, and your site came up (it rocks if you like to read international newspapers). I found your chatboard to be intruiging, and thought I would join in the fray.

Now, I will accept your apology if you stop trying to antagonize me.

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-13   1:09:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Feynman Lives! (#25)

Monty

Monty?

It's been awhile :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   1:22:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Zipporah (#26)

Zipporah,

How the heck did you do that picture? ROFLMAO!

(uh, and who the heck is that dandy? He looks like the love child of Tom Jones and Art Garfunkel)

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-13   1:23:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Feynman Lives! (#27)

uh, and who the heck is that dandy? He looks like the love child of Tom Jones and Art Garfunkel

LOL! He does, he really does! Good call.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2006-02-13   2:00:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Elliott Jackalope (#29)

It creeps me out that this photo is NOT some kind of photoshop creation... this guy was a real person?

Well, he certainly had a good self image! LOL

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-13   2:15:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Feynman Lives! (#30)

There is only explanation possible, or needed. "Hey, it was the 70's". Anyone who was there will quickly nod and smile a sad, wry smile of understanding.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2006-02-13   2:27:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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