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Title: Privacy fears hit Google search
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4700002.stm
Published: Feb 11, 2006
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2006-02-11 18:19:34 by Zipporah
Keywords: Privacy, Google, search
Views: 315
Comments: 46

Google building
Google is increasingly in the spotlight over the issue of privacy

A leading US digital rights campaign group has warned against using Google software which lets people organise and find information on their computers.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation said the latest version of Google Desktop posed a risk to privacy.

This is because a feature in the software lets Google keep personal data on its servers for up to 30 days.

Google says it plans to encrypt all data transferred from users' hard drives and restrict access.

Government snooping

The new version of its desktop search software comes as Google is battling efforts by the US Department of Justice to force it to hand over data about what people are looking for.

Google's Marissa Mayer

We think this will be a very useful tool, but you will have to give up some of your privacy

Marissa Mayer, Google


Some of Google's main competitors have already complied with the request for details about people's search habits.

The case has focused attention on the issue of personal information held by internet companies.

"Coming on the heels of serious consumer concern about government snooping into Google's search logs, it's shocking that Google expects its users to now trust it with the contents of their personal computers," said EFF staff attorney Kevin Bankston.

"Unless you configure Google Desktop very carefully, and few people will, Google will have copies of your tax returns, love letters, business records, financial and medical files, and whatever other text-based documents the desktop software can index.

"The government could then demand these personal files with only a subpoena rather than the search warrant it would need to seize the same things from your home or business," he said.

'Useful tool'

The EFF is concerned about a feature in Google Desktop 3 that lets users search their content on multiple computers.

To do this, people have to let Google transfer the files to its own servers.

The feature is optional and only works with certain types of files, such as Microsoft Word documents, Excel spreadsheets, PowerPoint presentations and PDF files.

The search giant has sought to reassure privacy advocates, saying it will not keep the information for more than 30 days and strictly limit who has access to the data.

"We think this will be a very useful tool, but you will have to give up some of your privacy," said Marissa Mayer, Google's vice president of search products and user experience.

"For many of us, that trade off will make a lot of sense."

The software package is widely seen as posing a challenge to Microsoft's dominance of the way people interact with computers.

It is not known how many users there are of Google Desktop but it is thought to be a fraction of the hundreds of millions that use the search engine every day.

As well as making data on a hard drive accessible on any computer, the software also lets people set up mini programs to keep track of information such as weather or news stories.

Google Desktop 3 is currently only available for Windows XP or Windows 2000.

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#7. To: Dakmar (#2)

Would you be serious for once?

Moi?? Serious is as serious does.. whatever that means :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   19:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#5)

I like nekkid pictures of abramoff

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-11   19:17:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zipporah (#5)

If you look on the main page here, latest posts, there are links to several search engines.. another is http://dogpile.com

I'll take a look at those, I'll try dogpile.

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   19:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Dakmar (#8)

I like nekkid pictures of abramoff

Do you think he's cute and sexy?

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   19:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Dakmar (#8)

I like nekkid pictures of abramoff

Well you could use some of Gannon's photos.. and paste in Abramoff's face.. :P

http://www.nndb.com/people/336/000090066/

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   19:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Diana (#10)

Do you think he's cute and sexy?

What I think doesn't matter, we could squeeze a lot of juice from these shits if we hit them in the right place.

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-11   19:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Dakmar (#12)

What I think doesn't matter, we could squeeze a lot of juice from these shits if we hit them in the right place.

Below the belt perhaps?? :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   19:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Zipporah, Diana (#13)

antisemtic to do so and supposedly only white supremecist

what?

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-11   19:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Zipporah (#13)

So I guess the Gator Wrasslin idea is kapoot?

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-11   19:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Dakmar (#14)

antisemtic to do so and supposedly only white supremecist

what?

HUH? LOL

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   19:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Dakmar (#15)

So I guess the Gator Wrasslin idea is kapoot?

Yeah.. think Crocodile Dundee.. and mud wrestling.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   19:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Zipporah (#17)

You know the Wally Gator song? Keep singing it.

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-11   19:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dakmar (#18)

You know the Wally Gator song? Keep singing it.

No..I dont? How about this one? mentions a gator :P:

http://www.phida.org/tunes/juketunes/johnny_horton-Battle_of_New_Orleans.mp3

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   19:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Dakmar, Zipporah (#14)

To: Zipporah, Diana

antisemtic to do so and supposedly only white supremecist

what?

I have a long-time friend who lives in Houston, we've known each other since we were 11. About 15 years ago she converted to Judaism, she has learned Hebrew and she is very active with her synogogue and reads a lot, she is very bright.

I told her how when I was looking for info on East Prussia to see what it was like there (I've given up finding out about that part of the family as there are few records since most were destroyed). I told her I found out that Ilya Ehrenberg, the Soviet propaganda minister, ordered Soviet troops to go in there to torture, rape and kill all remaining people, which at that point were mostly women, chidren and old men. She responded that Ilya Ehrenberg was an author and wrote books on the history of the automobile, and that is why he has a memorial in Israel. I told her he wrote books but he was also responsible for the brutality and death that occured in East Prussia.

She then told me that only antisemites and white supremecists are interested in East Prussia, and I told her I just wanted to find out what life and culture was like there before the place was destroyed.

She stuck to her guns though that it's antisemtic to look into that, as Ilya Ehrenberg was Jewish. It's kind of like how people are not suppose to question anything about the Holocaust, it's antisemitic to do so, and in many countries people get thrown in jail for looking into it and challenging any of the established dogma.

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   19:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Dakmar, Zipporah (#18)

You know the Wally Gator song? Keep singing it.

Can you ever be serious? (Just kidding, sort of!)

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   19:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Zipporah (#19)

pigs of the roman empire

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-11   19:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Diana (#20)

She then told me that only antisemites and white supremecists are interested in East Prussia, and I told her I just wanted to find out what life and culture was like there before the place was destroyed.

She stuck to her guns though that it's antisemtic to look into that, as Ilya Ehrenberg was Jewish. It's kind of like how people are not suppose to question anything about the Holocaust, it's antisemitic to do so, and in many countries people get thrown in jail for looking into it and challenging any of the established dogma.

What nonsense is this?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   19:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Zipporah (#0)

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http://watch.org/cgi- bin/nb51/06818" You can hotlink to me
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The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-02-11   19:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Zipporah (#23)

What nonsense is this?

Which part?

While I was looking on google for articles on East Prussia, one hit was from wikipedia, about the East Prussian Holocaust. I went to the link, and the article was in the process of possibly being deleted because some individuals apparently found it offensive, even though it did happen, but it's obviously not PC to look into it or acknowledge it.

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   19:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Zipporah (#23)

Hey what happened to the layout of this thread? The text now goes all the way across the screen, outside the boundries. What causes that?

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   19:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#24)

Thanks for the links..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   19:56:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Diana, Zipporah, christine, Neil McIver (#26)

Hey what happened to the layout of this thread? The text now goes all the way across the screen, outside the boundries. What causes that?

christine sold us out to help some little kid she knows i think. Next thing they'll be asking for dimes.

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-11   19:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Diana (#26)

I think my reply screwed it up (ugh)

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-02-11   19:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Dakmar, (#28)

christine sold us out to help some little kid she knows i think. Next thing they'll be asking for dimes.

Now you have to scroll to read these posts. Maybe it happened because I wrote what I did about East Prussia! I'm in big trouble now!

Oh, maybe not, this is not google..

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   20:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, Diana (#29)

I think my reply screwed it up (ugh)

I think I fixed it I hope I didnt lose any of your links?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   20:01:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Dakmar, Zipporah (#28)

Hey it's fixed! Fast work Zip!

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   20:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#29)

Holy shit I made it worse ROFLMAO!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   20:02:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Diana (#23)

stampede of greed

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-11   20:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Zipporah (#0)

Now the thread starts all over again, and it's sort of cut off at the end.

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   20:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Dakmar (#34)

stampede of greed

?????????????????

Okey Okey, I will censor myself on the East Prussia issue.

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   20:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Zipporah, Itisa1mosttoolate, Dakmar (#33)

Holy shit I made it worse ROFLMAO!

Hey it's working okey again!

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   20:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Diana (#35)

Now the thread starts all over again, and it's sort of cut off at the end.

I think it's fixed now ..there was some HTML for tables that I had to eliminate.. that I missed the 1st time around.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   20:15:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Zipporah (#5)

If you look on the main page here, latest posts, there are links to several search engines.. another is http://dogpile.com

I use Dogpile all the time...'Arfie' always dresses up for special occasions and holidays. Yesterday, he had on his 'USA' regalia for the Olympics.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-02-11   20:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: who knows what evil (#39)

I use Dogpile all the time...'Arfie' always dresses up for special occasions and holidays. Yesterday, he had on his 'USA' regalia for the Olympics.

I use dogpile and alta vista.. and some of the search engines we have linked on under resources.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   20:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Diana (#36)

Somewhere along the line I jumped the shark. Stampede of Greed is a real song I linked to earlier, it was good...

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-11   20:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Dakmar, ALL (#41)

Google Holds Copies of All Emails and All Websites Visited Tuesday, January 31, 2006

By Terry Vanderheyden January 30, 2006

MOUNTAIN VIEW, California - Some commentators are describing Google, the world's most used internet search engine, as "scary," after learning that the internet giant stores web search history and e-mails.

The UK's Times on Line reported that Google keeps an "extraordinary amount" of user information. Google logs searches on its search engine, storing the information "indefinitely." "Because every computer has a unique IP (internet protocol) address, every visit to every website can be traced back to the computer making it ? a fact which is well known in geek circles but remarkably under-publicised outside them," the Times article explained.

Google's alternative to hotmail, their new free e-mail service, Gmail, stores all e-mails indefinitely on their server. The company already admits to scanning e-mails in order to send targeted advertising.

The company's own privacy statement states that, "When you visit Google, we send one or more cookies - a small file containing a string of characters - to your computer that uniquely identifies your browser. We use cookies to improve the quality of our service by storing user preferences and tracking user trends, such as how people search. Most browsers are initially set up to accept cookies, but you can reset your browser to refuse all cookies or to indicate when a cookie is being sent. However, some Google features and services may not function properly if your cookies are disabled."

The privacy statement adds that, "When you use Google services, our servers automatically record information that your browser sends whenever you visit a website. These server logs may include information such as your web request, Internet Protocol address, browser type, browser language, the date and time of your request and one or more cookies that may uniquely identify your browser."

The dangers inherent in granting governments any authority to monitor and censor the internet for a very real good, could at the same time lend government authority to exclude legitimate material expressing valid viewpoints from the public square.

http://www.lifesite.ne t/ldn/2006/jan/06013003.html

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-02-11   20:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#42)

stampede of greed

We've been challenged, and we've risen to those challenges. We've climbed the mighty mountain. I see the valley below, and it's a valley of peace. - W

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-11   20:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, Zipporah (#42)

The privacy statement adds that, "When you use Google services, our servers automatically record information that your browser sends whenever you visit a website. These server logs may include information such as your web request, Internet Protocol address, browser type, browser language, the date and time of your request and one or more cookies that may uniquely identify your browser."

Privacy statement, what a joke.

I don't think I'll be using google anymore.

Diana  posted on  2006-02-11   22:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Diana, Zipporah (#44)

'Google Copies Your Hard Drive' Report; Posted on: 2006-02-11 11:31:23 [ Printer friendly / Instant flyer ]

Government smiles in anticipation

Google has announced a new "feature" of its Google Desktop software that greatly increases the risk to consumer privacy. If a consumer chooses to use it, the new "Search Across Computers" feature will store copies of the user's Word documents, PDFs, spreadsheets and other text-based documents on Google's own servers, to enable searching from any one of the user's computers.

"If you use the Search Across Computers feature and don't configure Google Desktop very carefully—and most people won't—Google will have copies of your tax returns, love letters, business records, financial and medical files, and whatever other text-based documents the Desktop software can index. The government could then demand these personal files with only a subpoena rather than the search warrant it would need to seize the same things from your home or business, and in many cases you wouldn't even be notified in time to challenge it. Other litigants—your spouse, your business partners or rivals, whoever—could also try to cut out the middleman (you) and subpoena Google for your files." read the rest of the story http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7871

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-02-11   23:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#45)

Dear gawd..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-11   23:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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