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Title: Masterful Spin at LP
Source: LP and Captains Quarters
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=129152
Published: Feb 12, 2006
Author: Captains Quarters
Post Date: 2006-02-12 11:18:09 by avian virus
Keywords: Masterful, Spin
Views: 207
Comments: 32

As everyone knows, I am an aficionado of well executed spin and half truths.

I saw a masterful example this morning on LP at the following link:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=129152

Note what the the article says:

Sometime in the early 1970s Carter spied on two Vietnamese - while they were overseas if my memory serves me correctly.

In 1977, the two men challenged the spying and Carter's actions were upheld for the specific case.

One year later, in 1978, Congress passed FISA to place standards and procedures on this sort of thing.

Bush ignored these standards and procedures.

The maxim that statute overrules precedent is ignored by the authors of the article. Completely ignored.

The article is written in a tortured, turgid style that leaves the casual reader with the impression that somewhere there has been a groundbreaking case that exonorates Bush.

There hasn't been.

Coldly calculated and deliberate propaganda at its finest.

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#12. To: avian virus, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, orangedog, Badeye After Five, Weekend Badeye (#0)

grinny grin grin ping

christine  posted on  2006-02-12   11:56:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#12)

grinney, grin, grin

Don't be so smug.

I really appreciate good spin. And it's nice to relax and study some good examples here in my off hours. You're never too old to learn you know.

Besides, do you think the folks I have to fool are going to be bothered by a bunch of facts that say they're wrong?

Not bloody likely.

(grin)

Badeye After Five  posted on  2006-02-12   12:15:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Badeye After Five (#13)

Youre posting on a SATURDAY.. shame!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-12   12:39:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Zipporah (#15)

He's cutting in on my time, damn it!!!

Weekend Badeye  posted on  2006-02-12   14:22:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Weekend Badeye, everyone (#17)

A recent post from fr -

I've given up on trying to teach anyone here anything (They gave Socrates hemlock, now this guy.)

Posted on 02/12/2006 7:39:47 AM PST by a true thinker

There's no helping you. This site is now just a diversion -- like a train wreck. This site is inherently for and about raving egomaniacs, and Jim's site policies -- which amount to excluding reality and actual dialogue in favor of political/militaristic pornography -- is conducive to cognitive dissonance, which at the times your worldview is threatened leads you into psychotic breaks (on the political cognitive plane, that is, and just maybe in other realms too). Not to mention that your baseline politics is based in mythology about American demographics, science, economics, ethics etc. You spoonfeed each other in the first place, so rationality on FR is always constrained to small scope matters. (You try to make up for this by shifting rapidly to things on which you share prejudices.)

FR is a purist's dream illustration of Kant's opinion that "Most people claim to be thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices." The name of the site is an Orwellian joke -- the only freedom truly here is the animal kind the uncivilized insist on, the only 'res publica' of interest is of acting in conspiracy to screw the public good for private gain, the only laws and people you truly like are the ones that permit/protect the anarchy, parasitism, and thievery you prefer, and immoralism is the true religion you espouse. FR is a mismanaged zoo, really, and I like coming here on occasion -- the sights are alternatingly horrifying and amusing, but always a reminder of what the Enlightenment was a fight against.

Best wishes.

Lod  posted on  2006-02-12   15:15:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lodwick (#18)

The name of the site is an Orwellian joke

It has been essentially an echo chamber since the "Big Cheese" there did a 180 on GW mid-2000 and announced there would be no more "Bush bashing" on the forum. Supposedly he "didn't want the forum used to elect Democrats." I wonder if there was something more to it than that---something more...umm...tangible...

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-02-12   15:35:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#19)

The one topic that is now "allowed" is bashing on the illegal aliens and our open borders: evidently, FresNeck, CA is sufficiently overrun with illegals, that even jr has sensed that we may have a problem.

Cheers, Pete.

Lod  posted on  2006-02-12   18:08:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lodwick (#20)

Quite a change. I guess even JR's and his brother's business in Mexico couldn't keep him on the GOP talking points.

There was a post on LP of an FR post that went into some detail about that business. He complained they were having trouble finding enough workers, that they were all going north. I hope they all ended up in Fresno.

robin  posted on  2006-02-12   18:17:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robin (#21)

I guess even JR's and his brother's business in Mexico couldn't keep him on the GOP talking points.

Huh?

I completely missed out on his bro's Mexican business - what is up with that?

Thanks.

Lod  posted on  2006-02-12   18:26:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lodwick (#22)

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=87024&Disp

robin  posted on  2006-02-12   19:02:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#25. To: robin (#24)

My brother and I had our doubts but they set up the plant, hired and trained the workers and struggled for a few years, but they finally got it all together. Now they are a very profitable company shipping truck brakes all over the world and have problems keeping up with demand.

They now have several hundred workers at the plant all making pretty good wages (for Mexico) and things are looking up for all.

BUT, they are now labor bound. Even though they've automated some of their manufacturing processes, they need more labor to expand and are beginning to have problems recruiting workers. My brother says believe it or not, they're beginning to have labor shortages in Mexico.

73 posted on 03/06/2005 5:38:23 AM EST by Jim Robinson

Thanks a bunch.

Dear God - a labor shortage in Mexico?

Send them back from our country and solve this crisis!

(Or raise your slave labor wages.)

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