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Title: Cheney Accidentally Shoots Fellow Hunter
Source: yahoo news
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060212 ... _pr_wh/cheney_hunting_accident
Published: Feb 12, 2006
Author: yahoo
Post Date: 2006-02-12 16:11:03 by Flintlock
Keywords: Accidentally, Cheney, Shoots
Views: 3433
Comments: 76

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and injured a man during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas, his spokeswoman said Sunday.

Harry Whittington, 78, was "alert and doing fine" after Cheney sprayed Whittington with shotgun pellets on Saturday at the Armstrong Ranch in south Texas, said property owner Katharine Armstrong.

Armstrong said Cheney turned to shoot a bird and accidentally hit Whittington. She said Whittington was taken to Corpus Christi Memorial Hospital by ambulance.

Cheney's spokeswoman, Lea Anne McBride, said the vice president was with Whittington, a lawyer from Austin, Texas, and his wife at the hospital on Sunday afternoon.

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#20. To: Flintlock (#0)

The oddest thing about this story is that it was held for a day.

The evening news says Cheney takes an entire medical team with him now, everywhere he goes. I wonder if his latest victim was able to get help from any of this entourage.

robin  posted on  2006-02-12   20:07:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#20)

The oddest thing about this story is that it was held for a day.

Flintlock  posted on  2006-02-12   22:17:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Flintlock (#23)

The oddest thing about this story is that it was held for a day.

that is unusual. the shooting occurred on Saturday, they waited until Sunday afternoon to report it.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-02-12   22:19:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Red Jones (#24)

that is unusual. the shooting occurred on Saturday, they waited until Sunday afternoon to report it.

Yep

Flintlock  posted on  2006-02-12   22:27:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Flintlock, Zipporah, Fred Mertz (#26)

EXCLUSIVE: First Photo of Cheney Shooting Victim

The above photo shows Vice President Dick Cheney speaking to reporters at the bedside of the man who he "accidentally" shot this weekend while on a hunting trip in Texas (full story).

A spokesman for the vice president identified the shooting victim as Harry Whittington, but sources close to the incident suggest "Harry Whittington" is a Secret Service code name for Cheney's indicted former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

"Honestly, I didn't mean to shoot Scoot-- I mean, Harry Whittington," the vice president told reporters in "Mr. Whittington's" hospital recovery room.

The shooting occurred several days after it was revealed that Mr. Libby told special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald he was ordered by Vice President Cheney to leak classified national security documents to the press. The revelation could cost Cheney his job and whatever remains of his reputation amongst both Democrats and Republicans.

An EMT who attended to "Mr. Whittington" told the Huffington Post that, during the ambulance ride, he overheard Cheney mumbling, "Who's leaking now, f***ker?" and, "F***ker survived. Gotta work on my aim."

The EMT later remarked to the vice president, "Harry Whittington? That sounds like a made-up name." When contacted for clarification on Cheney's reply, the Huffington Post has learned the emergency worker has disappeared.

robin  posted on  2006-02-12   23:34:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: robin (#28)

An EMT who attended to "Mr. Whittington" told the Huffington Post that, during the ambulance ride, he overheard Cheney mumbling, "Who's leaking now, f***ker?" and, "F***ker survived. Gotta work on my aim."

What ever happened to "I didn't know it was loaded"?

Flintlock  posted on  2006-02-12   23:48:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Flintlock (#32)

Read this post from Daily Kos:

Local news on Austin TV (4.00 / 4)

said the gun was .28 gauge at 30 yards.

Normally, for dove and quail, #7 1/2 or #8 shot are used. This is small shot: in order of increasing size: rat shot, #8, #7 1/2, #6, #4, #2, bb's and buck shot, 0 and 00 (ought and double-ought).

For those of you who don't understand gauges, the smallest is 28 gauge; in increasing order or size, 20 gauge, 16 gauge, 12 gauge and 10 gaugge. Hardly anyone uses 10 gauge; it will kick your shoulder off.

For quail, a ground-hugging, fast flying bird as apt to run as fly, the initial response is to the break of the covey or individual birds. Dogs are normally used to spot the coveys, but the hunter usually does the flushing. Because many shots are close, lighter gauges are commonly used to avoid tearing up the birds. Longer shots are the exception for quail and that would be anything over 35-40 yards. The lighter gauges don't have much knock down power over 50 yards.

A 28 gauge with a dove load is a heck of a splatter at 90 feet, depending on the choke on which the gun is set. Considering the victim had pellets in his face, neck and upper torso, those pellets obviously penetrated clothing (it was colder, 40s-low 50s, and very windy Saturday), the shot was just off center of the pattern, perhaps a foot or so, and this could have been much worse with a direct hit.

As a person who grew up on a ranch and hunted from early childhood, the prime rule of hunting is always know where you are shooting. The hunter always has the primary responsibility in knowing where other hunters are because the hunter has control of the trigger. If you don't know whether someone is in range, you don't shoot. Period. Exceptions cause death and injury.

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#38. To: Zipporah (#33)

I know a guy who enjoys bird hunting. he accidentally shot his dog while hunting. with bird hunting the birds fly out of the bushes suddenly when you walk near them and people jerk their guns quickly to shoot. so it could happen if someone were stupid.

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