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Title: Cheney Accidentally Shoots Fellow Hunter
Source: yahoo news
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060212 ... _pr_wh/cheney_hunting_accident
Published: Feb 12, 2006
Author: yahoo
Post Date: 2006-02-12 16:11:03 by Flintlock
Keywords: Accidentally, Cheney, Shoots
Views: 1009
Comments: 76

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and injured a man during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas, his spokeswoman said Sunday.

Harry Whittington, 78, was "alert and doing fine" after Cheney sprayed Whittington with shotgun pellets on Saturday at the Armstrong Ranch in south Texas, said property owner Katharine Armstrong.

Armstrong said Cheney turned to shoot a bird and accidentally hit Whittington. She said Whittington was taken to Corpus Christi Memorial Hospital by ambulance.

Cheney's spokeswoman, Lea Anne McBride, said the vice president was with Whittington, a lawyer from Austin, Texas, and his wife at the hospital on Sunday afternoon.

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#37. To: All (#35)

One more thing that was pointed out on the DK thread about this:

"Cheney, Whittington and another hunter had gotten out of a car to shoot at a covey of quail at about 5:30 p.m. Saturday, according to Armstrong, who was in the party of four at her ranch."

Quail hunting from a car? You cant hunt quail from a car.. and stop when you see a flock? Aren't quail hunted with a bird dog.. a setter or pointer?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   0:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Zipporah (#33)

I know a guy who enjoys bird hunting. he accidentally shot his dog while hunting. with bird hunting the birds fly out of the bushes suddenly when you walk near them and people jerk their guns quickly to shoot. so it could happen if someone were stupid.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-02-13   0:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Zipporah (#37)

Quail hunting from a car? You cant hunt quail from a car.. and stop when you see a flock? Aren't quail hunted with a bird dog.. a setter or pointer?

yes, that's correct, you hunt them with a bird dog who points the birds out.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-02-13   0:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: question for hunters (#37)

Sunset in that area was at Sunset at 6:17 PM .. and this happened " The incident, which occurred at about 5:30 p.m., was first reported on the Web site of The Corpus Christi Caller-Times on Sunday."

Does this seem plausible? To be hunting quail this close to sundown?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   0:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Red Jones (#39)

yes, that's correct, you hunt them with a bird dog who points the birds out.

Impossible to be hunting quail from a car .. that makes no sense.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   0:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Zipporah (#41)

Impossible to be hunting quail from a car .. that makes no sense.

It's not normal but I've seen it. The quail run from cover to cover and you can hear them. And sometimes see them. I can remember driving down a country road and hearing a covey run from some bushes near the road to some cover further out in the field. We would stop and get out and go out into the field to flush them.

...  posted on  2006-02-13   0:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Zipporah (#40)

Does this seem plausible? To be hunting quail this close to sundown?

Seems like its a good time. Daybreak or late afternoon an hour or so beofre sunset is when they are in their coveys and it's a good time to turn the dogs loose and work the fields. You could get lucky and flush a load of them.

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-02-13   0:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: ... (#42)

It's not normal but I've seen it. The quail run from cover to cover and you can hear them. And sometimes see them. I can remember driving down a country road and hearing a covey run from some bushes near the road to some cover further out in the field. We would stop and get out and go out into the field to flush them.

Possible then but not probable.. it's been years ago but I would go quail hunting with an uncle.. he had bird dogs and we would go early in the a.m. .. the quail were really nervous birds.. thats why I thought the car senario didnt seem plausible..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   0:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: BTP Holdings (#43)

Seems like its a good time. Daybreak or late afternoon an hour or so beofre sunset is when they are in their coveys and it's a good time to turn the dogs loose and work the fields. You could get lucky and flush a load of them.

As I said, when I was a kid we'd go very very early in the a.m... I just wanted to see if the story held water.. thanks.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   0:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Zipporah (#44)

I was a kid when I saw this, but it seemed that we drove from field to field in Kansas along a country road. We would stop at each hedge row and walk it trying to flush a covey. If we didn't find anything, we would drive to the next hedgerow. Sometimes we would hear them running like I said above.

...  posted on  2006-02-13   0:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: ... (#46)

Thanks and considering Cheney's heart and feet issues I guess it would make sense....

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2006/01/hobbled_up_but_.html

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   1:03:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Flintlock (#32)

An EMT who attended to "Mr. Whittington" told the Huffington Post that, during the ambulance ride, he overheard Cheney mumbling, "Who's leaking now, f***ker?" and, "F***ker survived. Gotta work on my aim."

What ever happened to "I didn't know it was loaded"?

As someone here already pointed out, the comedians have yet more material for this week. I was a little surprised to see some amusing attempts already: "Who's leaking now, f***ker?" and, "F***ker survived. Gotta work on my aim."

That's pretty good on short notice, with that picture of scooter in a hospital bed.

Mr Rumsfeld said the emergence of populist leaders through elections in Latin America was "worrisome".

robin  posted on  2006-02-13   7:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: All (#48)

Feisty and outspoken

That's how Whittington is described in this morning's Washington Post article.

Now I'm sure that Texan's mouth started this incident. That joke above with Scooter in the hospital bed is undoubtedly perfect for this weekend's Cheney event.

So Cheney, the thoroughly evil and miserable draft-dodging chickenhawk likes to hunt. Was there ever a more descpicable excuse for a human being? I defy Charles Dickens to invent a more twisted character. Uriah Heep's got nothin' on Dick Cheney.

Mr Rumsfeld said the emergence of populist leaders through elections in Latin America was "worrisome".

robin  posted on  2006-02-13   7:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Flintlock, Zipporah, siagiah, aristeides, Fred Mertz, Red Jones, Sam Houston, Jethro Tull (#32)

Comments on Huffington to the Scooter in hospital bed joke above:

Excerpts From Dick Cheney's Haiku Diary:

1.
I shot some pellets
Into the ass of a pal.
Double bourbon now!

2.
Just like Vietnam,
I watched my buddy bleeding.
Chickenhawk my ass!

3.
A Breathalyzer?
Go fuck yourself, officer!
You know who I am?

Posted by: MoeLarryAndJesus on February 12, 2006 at 09:07pm

*************************************

With such markmanship skills, it's a blessing Cheney earned his nickname, Deferment Dick, otherwise, the Vietnam Memorial Wall would extend into downtown Baltimore.

Posted by: Maxx61 on February 12, 2006 at 07:48pm

*************************************

Alternate headlines for this story:

* Cheney Shoots Hunting Companion, Says 'Duct Tape No Longer Enough'

* Terror Alert Raised; Cheney Shoots Hunting Companion

* VP's Pacemaker Shorts; Causes Itchy Trigger Finger to Misfire

* No Quail Left Unflushed: Cheney 'Just Trying to Get Some Meat to go With the Chablis'

* VP Cheney Mistakes Six-Foot Man in Hunting Jacket for Foot-Long Bird

* Cheney Apologizes for Wounding Hunting Partner: 'I Used to be a Better Shot'

Posted by: Ruckus on February 12, 2006 at 08:25pm

********************

New sign for Cheney's desk:

THE BUCK SHOT'S HERE

Posted by: Ruckus on February 12, 2006 at 08:26pm

Mr Rumsfeld said the emergence of populist leaders through elections in Latin America was "worrisome".

robin  posted on  2006-02-13   7:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: robin (#50)

THE BUCK SHOT'S HERE

LOL, good one!


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2006-02-13   7:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: robin (#50)

We read on one of these threads that in Texas there are over one million hunting trips per year. and in all those hunting excursions there are only 14 incidents per year where a person gets shot. When you combine this with the rumors from Cathy O'Brien and others that Cheney is said to enjoy hunting people, we have to wonder what the heck is going on here.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-02-13   7:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Red Jones (#52)

Cheney is said to enjoy hunting people,

The last dictator of Guatamala used to do that with hookers.

His name was Fernando Lucas García. He and his cronies would get a bunch of hookers and have then run through the woods.

They'd chase'em on horseback, then......... well, you get the idea.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2006-02-13   8:01:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Red Jones (#52)

We read on one of these threads that in Texas there are over one million hunting trips per year. and in all those hunting excursions there are only 14 incidents per year where a person gets shot. When you combine this with the rumors from Cathy O'Brien and others that Cheney is said to enjoy hunting people, we have to wonder what the heck is going on here.

Old, twisted habits die hard?

Mr Rumsfeld said the emergence of populist leaders through elections in Latin America was "worrisome".

robin  posted on  2006-02-13   8:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Fred Mertz (#27)

More Questions Raised About Delay in Reporting Cheney Misfire .

aristeides  posted on  2006-02-13   11:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: aristeides (#55)

How very interesting:

The confirmation was made but it is not known for certain that Cheney's office, the White House, or anyone else intended to announce the shooting if the reporter, Jaime Powell of the Corpus Christi Caller-Times, had not received word from the ranch owner.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   11:17:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Elliott Jackalope (#19)

You're right. Great evil has taken over the planet, we are all consumed by the fire of their hate and selfishness and wickedness. But it's not what they think, they've gained no victory, instead they've created a refiner's fire that is just starting to purify a great many souls. Millions are starting to wake up from their materialistic slumber, the signs are appearing in a million different stories being told by a million different people in a million different ways. The sleepwalkers are losing their outer shells, the light within is becoming ever more apparent to countless numbers of people. In the darkest of moments, suddenly those with eyes to see catch just the barest glimpse of what is true reality, and turn away from an illusion they can no longer bear to live in.

Someday the emptiness inside of these evil people will implode them, and the force of that implosion will shatter our society. At that point no one will be fooled any longer, and those who were already awake will busy themselves gathering up the broken and blackened shards of what had once been light.

YOWZA... you are one DEEP thinker EJ. Not joking w/ya, just impressed by your powerful words and figured I should say so.

I don't know about you, but the present STATE OF THE UNION scares the crap outa me...

siagiah  posted on  2006-02-13   11:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Sam Houston (#16)

Wow, I didn't even RECOGNIZE Cheney at first - then I noticed that little smirk. I think you have an excellent observation - that after 50 or 60 years of living your face, and especially your characteristic expression truly represent what you're about inside. If you look like a mean, bitter, nasty person when you're past 50, then that's probably what you are.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-13   11:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: robin (#29)

Hey Robin, HOW did you attach that video? And where can I find it on line? I'd like to send to a few folks.

I don't know about you, but the present STATE OF THE UNION scares the crap outa me...

siagiah  posted on  2006-02-13   11:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mehitable, siagiah, aristeides (#58)

Read this one.. bizarre:

Sport or Slaughter? VP's Hunting Trip Sparks Criticism

(KDKA) Pittsburgh Vice President Dick Cheney's hunting trip to Westmoreland County this week is drawing criticism.

Cheney arrived at the Arnold Palmer Regional Airport in Latrobe on Monday to do some hunting at the Rolling Rock Club and Game Preserve -- a private club with farm-raised pheasants; but some say it was no hunt -- it was a slaughter.

"Your average hunter may shoot more than three pheasants a day; Vice President Cheney shot more than 70 -- and an untold number of mallards... We're appalled that so many animals were killed for target practice essentially."-- Wayne Pacelle, V.P.- Humane Society of the US
Five-hundred pheasants were released in front of Cheney and his men; and the ten-man hunting party killed 417 of the birds. Vice President Cheney alone shot over 70 pheasants.

The birds were then plucked and vacuum-packed in time for Cheney's afternoon flight back to Washington, DC.

The hunt sparked the Humane Society to issue a statement chastising Cheney. "We're appalled that so many animals were killed -- for target practice essentially," says Humane Society Vice President Wayne Pacelle.
"To just slaughter animals that are dumped out in front of hunters just for the thrill of all this killing is not something that can be justified... this is more grisly than we ever could have imagined it could be."-- Wayne Pacelle, Humane Society
The White House isn't commenting.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   11:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Zipporah (#56)

Intelligence estimates out of Texas had identified Whittington as attempting to purchase suspicious quantities of "yellow quail". Cheney had formed a coalition to interdict the flow of insurgent quail into Texas and Whittington got in Cheney's line of fire.

It isn't Cheney's fault that Whittington was mistaken for quail. Everyone was fooled.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2006-02-13   11:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Starwind (#61)

Intelligence estimates out of Texas had identified Whittington as attempting to purchase suspicious quantities of "yellow quail". Cheney had formed a coalition to interdict the flow of insurgent quail into Texas and Whittington got in Cheney's line of fire.

It isn't Cheney's fault that Whittington was mistaken for quail. Everyone was fooled.

LOL!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   11:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Starwind (#61)

I should've added this :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   11:40:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Zipporah (#60)

I'm trying to remember where I read that Hermann Göring and his guests used to have large numbers of game provided to them in this way to shoot, but I can't. It might have been a novel, so I'm not sure it's fact in Göring's case.

aristeides  posted on  2006-02-13   11:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Zipporah (#60)

"To just slaughter animals that are dumped out in front of hunters

makes me ill...

"It's an Inside Job"

christine  posted on  2006-02-13   11:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Flintlock (#25)

What do you think really happened? Maybe Whittington told Cheney to F*** off and Cheney gave him both barrels....

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-13   11:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: christine (#65)

makes me ill...

IMO this is outrageous .. I'm not antihunting at all but this isnt sport..it's wholesale slaughter..and for what?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   11:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: siagiah (#59)

I posted the link to the source (Huffington Post) at the top:

Cheney's Got a Gun

You can get the audio/video by using their html source (select right click to View Selection Source), possibly editing the link path; often the paths are relative not absolute. relative looks like "../video/Cheney_duckhunter.wmv" - so you change by adding "http://www.huffingtonpost.com/video/Cheney_duckhunter.wmv". (This is an example only.)

But now that it's here it would be simpler to select the above and use its html (by right clicking what you highlight then copy/paste from the View Selection Source window), all the paths would be absolute now.

If that's not clear, send me a PM, and I'll try again.

Mr Rumsfeld said the emergence of populist leaders through elections in Latin America was "worrisome".

robin  posted on  2006-02-13   11:59:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Zipporah (#60)

I don't object to hunting per se, but I do object to wanton violence and cruelty, which I think is what Cheney displays. He just likes to hurt and kill things, it's obviously one of his character traits. When I look and listen to Cheney, I get the impression of a very sick, evil and twisted person, and that's reflected in his very odd family life, as well. No wonder his wife and daughter are lesbians.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-13   12:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: mehitable (#69)

He just likes to hurt and kill things, it's obviously one of his character traits.

No wonder Cheney and his chief of staff Addington are apparently the ultimate source of the torture policies.

aristeides  posted on  2006-02-13   12:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: aristeides (#70)

I agree with you - it takes a certain mindset to really think through and approve torture policies (especially when most good intelligence people will tell you that info gained through torture generally isn't worth much). Cheney and his people have routinized torture, made it part of the usual practice. I think it's part of their twisted mindset where they really do enjoy controlling and inflicting pain on others - human or animal. I have always believed that the way people treat animals will reflect on how they treat people. There is something fundamentally wrong with many members of the Bush admin on a basic human, psychological level. These are not normal people.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-13   12:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: aristeides (#64)

Mercer Reynolds

Have you read anything about Cheney being on this trip with her?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   12:34:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: mehitable (#69)

I don't object to hunting per se, but I do object to wanton violence and cruelty, which I think is what Cheney displays. He just likes to hurt and kill things, it's obviously one of his character traits. When I look and listen to Cheney, I get the impression of a very sick, evil and twisted person, and that's reflected in his very odd family life, as well. No wonder his wife and daughter are lesbians.

Nor do I.. there is something majorly twisted about this IMO. Something was posted here about the reports about Cheney hunting humans .. this of course wasnt in the mainstream press.. but from a book written by some woman who had some rather disturbing accusations re Cheney.. now whether true or not that's another story.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-13   12:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Flintlock, Zipporah, robin, All (#0)

http://waynemadsenreport.com

February 13, 2006 -- Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot fellow hunter, 78-year old Austin attorney Harry Whittington, while quail hunting on the south Texas ranch of Anne Armstrong, a former U.S. ambassador to Britain and an adviser to Presidents Nixon, Reagan and Bush I. The incident occurred during the late afternoon of February 11 but the news was not revealed until February 12 after being confirmed by the White House after the Corpus Christi Caller-Times reported the story. The White House sat on the story for 24 hours. Local police were not informed about the incident.

Whittington was hit in the face, neck, and chest with bird shot from Cheney's shotgun resulting in bleeding wounds. Mrs. Armstrong later told the AP that Whittington failed to signal Cheney that he was approaching him from behind as Cheney turned to fire at a covey of quail. Whittington is listed in stable condition at a Corpus Christi hospital.

WMR has learned that this incident is not the first involving Cheney and hunting accidents. According to informed sources on Maryland's Eastern Shore, two years ago Cheney was shooting at ducks from a duck blind in Trappe, a Maryland Eastern shore town where former Secretary of State James Baker III maintains a residence. The sources reveal that Cheney nearly accidentally shot half of his hunting party and Secret Service detail. Eyewitnesses to the Maryland duck hunting incident claim that Cheney is "trigger happy" and a "maniac with a gun."

Cheney has since purchased a vacation home in St. Michael's on the Eastern Shore where he often hunts on weekends and extended stays.

SIDEBAR: Did Cheney violate Texas law? According to a March 14, 2005 article by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, "law violations are common in accident scenarios . . . The primary reason for Texas hunting accidents remains swinging on game outside a safe zone of fire. This happens when a person points a firearm at another hunter while following a moving target, such as a flying game bird. Hunter education teaches people to set up safe zones of fire where a gun can be safely pointed whether the target is moving or stationary. Careless firearm handling remains another primary factor in many accidents . . . Most accidents violated a cardinal rule of hunter safety, were situated in or around a vehicle or stand, and occurred toward dusk and involved fatigue as a factor.

Dove hunting had close to twice the number of accidents (11) as the next highest accident category for 2004, deer hunting (6). This is because hunting birds on the wing involves the greatest risk of swinging on game outside the safe zone of fire."

"Mr. President, the shots came from that bald headed guy in the corn field over there wearing the orange and black coat."

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-02-13   12:37:19 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: BTP Holdings (#74)

Mrs. Armstrong later told the AP that Whittington failed to signal Cheney that he was approaching him from behind as Cheney turned to fire at a covey of quail. Whittington is listed in stable condition at a Corpus Christi hospital.

WMR has learned that this incident is not the first involving Cheney and hunting accidents. According to informed sources on Maryland's Eastern Shore, two years ago Cheney was shooting at ducks from a duck blind in Trappe, a Maryland Eastern shore town where former Secretary of State James Baker III maintains a residence. The sources reveal that Cheney nearly accidentally shot half of his hunting party and Secret Service detail. Eyewitnesses to the Maryland duck hunting incident claim that Cheney is "trigger happy" and a "maniac with a gun."

lol!

Mr Rumsfeld said the emergence of populist leaders through elections in Latin America was "worrisome".

robin  posted on  2006-02-13   12:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: robin (#75)

lol!

And some people have had the nerve to call me a gun nut. There's no comparison. If I shoot you, I meant to do it. ;0)

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-02-13   14:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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