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Title: Elon Musk: “Odds are we’re living in a simulation”
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URL Source: http://www.glitch.news/2016-06-06-e ... re-living-in-a-simulation.html
Published: Jun 7, 2016
Author: Greg White
Post Date: 2016-06-07 10:20:46 by Ada
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Views: 593
Comments: 16
Do we live in a computer simulation? Elon Musk, CEO of SpaceX, thinks so; or at least, he thinks it’s more likely than not. Although the belief that we are all living in a computer simulation might seem bonkers, the reasoning behind the claim is difficult to refute, at least on the surface. The simulation argument, originally purported by the philosopher Nick Bostrom, can be summarized as follows: NT2 (1) Consciousness is the result of information processing at the level of the brain. (2) Future civilizations will create simulations of the past in the same way we create simulations of the Sims. (3) Simulated universes outnumber actual universes. (4) Therefore, we are far more likely living in a simulated universe than an actual universe. The simulation argument expounded Apparently, the reasoning behind the argument is so airtight that not even an intellectual giant like Musk can refute it. When asked during a Recode’s Code Conference about the validity of the simulation argument, Musk replied: The strongest argument for us being in a simulation probably is the following. Forty years ago we had pong. Like two rectangles and a dot. That was what games were. Now, forty years later, we have photorealistic, 3D simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously and it’s getting better every year. Soon we’ll have virtual reality, augmented reality. If you assume any rate of improvement at all, then the games will become indistinguishable from reality, even if that rate of advancement drops by a thousand from what it is now. Then you just say, okay, let’s imagine it’s 10,000 years in the future, which is nothing on the evolutionary scale. So given that we’re clearly on a trajectory to have games that are indistinguishable from reality, and those games could be played on any set-top box or on a PC or whatever, and there would probably be billions of such computers or set-top boxes, it would seem to follow that the odds that we’re in base reality is one in billions. Tell me what’s wrong with that argument. Is there a flaw in that argument? Musk added that he has contemplated the simulation argument so much that he and his brother agreed to ban discussion of the topic while in his hot tub. Holes in the argument There are a few reasons why the purported argument might not be as sound as Musk suggests. To start, the argument is based upon the contentious assumption that consciousness is a computational program that can be downloaded onto a computer hard drive. However, there are multiple theories of consciousness on the table, which suggest consciousness is more than just information processing. And if there is more to consciousness than information processing, then the analogy of the mind as a computer program that can be downloaded onto a computer hard drive breaks down. In addition, the argument assumes human beings will be able to reach a level of technological sophistication without first self-destructing. According to Musk’s own remarks, however, video game simulations that are indistinguishable from reality might not be feasible for another 10,000 years, which is more than enough time for humanity to bring about its own demise. Finally, the argument assumes there is only one, finite universe. Yet theories of inflation suggest the universe is infinite, and if the universe is infinite, then there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations. And if we take multiple universe theories seriously, then there may be an infinite number of infinite universes with an infinite number of civilizations. And if there are an infinite number of infinite universes with an infinite number of civilizations, then we are no more likely living in a simulated universe than an actual universe. The simulation argument is a highly contentious issue in philosophy. While the quarrel has yet to be settled, the noted objections illustrate the argument is not nearly as convincing as Musk suggests, meaning he and his brother can rest a little easier in their simulated hot tub.
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#3. To: Ada (#0)
Pass the pipe, Musk.
He's on 'shrooms.
Fine, folks -- but how else would you explain the existence of a universe that's so crazy and evil? Yeah, crazy and evil!
The universe is in fine shape, it's mankind that's crazy and evil.
Oh, sure -- lovely. Until the next great extinction or polar shift.
Email me when that happens.
#15. To: Lod (#13)
You're in it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Holocene_extinction
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Oh, sure -- lovely. Until the next great extinction or polar shift.
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