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Title: DIGGING INTO GUANTANAMO.... (EVIDENCE AGAINST MOST GITMO PRISONERS BOGUS, AND KNOWN TO BE BOGUS)
Source: Washington Monthly
URL Source: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ar ... /individual/2006_02/008230.php
Published: Feb 15, 2006
Author: Kevin Drum
Post Date: 2006-02-15 19:25:59 by aristeides
Keywords: GUANTANAMO...., (EVIDENCE, PRISONERS
Views: 34
Comments: 5

DIGGING INTO GUANTANAMO....I'm quite late getting to last week's National Journal cover story about the prisoners being held at Guantanamo Bay, but thanks to Jon Henke at QandO I've now figured out how many separate articles there are (four) and how they relate to each other. Taken together, they tell a chilling story.

The basic message from these four pieces is that the evidence against an awful lot of the Guantanamo prisoners isn't just weak, it's known to be flatly false. For example, here's an account of Mohammed al-Tumani, a prisoner who was lucky enough to be assigned a "personal representative" who discovered that his primary accuser was a busy man indeed:

Tumani's enterprising representative looked at the classified evidence against the Syrian youth and found that just one man — the aforementioned accuser — had placed Tumani at the terrorist training camp. And he had placed Tumani there three months before the teenager had even entered Afghanistan. The curious U.S. officer pulled the classified file of the accuser, saw that he had accused 60 men, and, suddenly skeptical, pulled the files of every detainee the accuser had placed at the one training camp. None of the men had been in Afghanistan at the time the accuser said he saw them at the camp.

The tribunal declared Tumani an enemy combatant anyway.

There's more like this, and the story it tells is that the problem at Guantanamo isn't just that it's difficult separating fact from fiction when prisoners have been captured in the heat of battle and the witnesses against them are thousands of miles away and untrustworthy to boot. That's a genuine problem, and not one that's easily resolved.

Rather, in too many cases, it turns out the Pentagon is relying on blatantly fabricated evidence against many of the Guantanamo prisoners, and it's doing so even though it knows the evidence against them is blatantly fabricated.

And it gets worse. After all, if the Guantanamo prisoners had been captured on the battlefield, that would constitute prima facie evidence that they were enemy combatants even if the rest of the evidence against them was worthless or trumped up. But they weren't:

The largest single group at Guantanamo Bay today consists of men caught in indiscriminate sweeps for Arabs in Pakistan. Once arrested, these men passed through several captors before being given to the U.S. military. Some of the men say they were arrested after asking for help getting to their embassies; a few say the Pakistanis asked them for bribes to avoid being turned over to America.

...."The one thing we were never clear of was where they came from," [Michael] Scheuer said of the Guantanamo detainees. "DOD picked them up somewhere." When National Journal told Scheuer that the largest group came from Pakistani custody, he chuckled. "Then they were probably people the Pakistanis thought were dangerous to Pakistan," he said. "We absolutely got the wrong people."

That's Michael Scheuer speaking, the man who headed the CIA's bin Laden unit through 1999 and worked for the agency up through 2004.

To summarize then: According to the National Journal's research, upwards of half of all prisoners at Guantanamo weren't captured on the battlefield. Rather, they came into our custody by way of third parties "who had their own motivations for turning people in, including paybacks and payoffs." Many — perhaps most — of the men rounded up in these sweeps have no connection to al-Qaeda or the Taliban, and the evidence against them is often weak, sometimes nonexistent, and all too frequently known to be fabricated. And yet they remain in prison.

Corine Hegland wrote the main package of stories for the Journal. It consists of three separate pieces:

Empty Evidence — The main story.

Guantanamo's Grip — An in-depth look at "Detainee 032."

Who Is at Guantanamo Bay — An examination of the 132 habeus corpus petitions filed by attorneys representing Guantanamo detainees.

In addition, Stuart Taylor summarizes some of the evidence in Hegland's three stories in an accompanying column. Jon Henke has Taylor's column here and Dale Franks provides more information and some background detail here. It's all worth reading.

—Kevin Drum 1:42 AM

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#1. To: aristeides (#0)

EVIDENCE AGAINST MOST GITMO PRISONERS BOGUS, AND KNOWN TO BE BOGUS

Wasn't this true of Abu Ghraib as well? Most of those abusees were simply caught up in street swipes and pumped for "what they knew"---which wasn't anything. More facts reminiscent of 1930's Russia: I think the guys doing the arresting may have had some kind of "quota." In '30's Russia, the OGPU/NKVD hauled in, tortured and framed countless people for "wrecking" (i.e., industrial accidents, etc.), "anti-Soviet terrorism" (concocted plots against Stalin supposedly orchestrated from abroad by Stalin's Usama bin Laden, Leon Trotsky), and so forth. Guilt had nothing to do with it---most of the time whether the arrestees even knew anything useful had nothing to do with it. The OGPU/NKVD would simply learn some personal details and spin a "criminal history" around those details.

I think the same thing is happening with DHS, the CIA, FBI, various Defense agencies: there's a bogus "War on Terror" declared, ergo there have to be "terrorists" hauled in and abused and tortured and made to confess to crimes or knowledge that their jailers and torturers concoct for them. It's a small step for people of such caliber to transfer their newly acquired "skills" from hapless Arabs to hapless Americans. If I sound worried, it's because I am--- this is the type of activity, the type of system that we just spent trillions of dollars and sacrificed tens of thousands of lives to end.

You can't win. You can't break even. You can't get out of the game.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-02-15   19:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#1)

It's a small step for people of such caliber to transfer their newly acquired "skills" from hapless Arabs to hapless Americans. If I sound worried, it's because I am--- this is the type of activity, the type of system that we just spent trillions of dollars and sacrificed tens of thousands of lives to end.

Sort of obliterates all the noble sacrifices that went before these monsters took over.

"War is a way of shattering to pieces...materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses... too intelligent." ~George Orwell

robin  posted on  2006-02-15   20:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#2)

Sort of obliterates all the noble sacrifices that went before these monsters took over.

Seems like the Berlin Wall fell just so all that totalitarianism that it was holding back could flow westward.

You can't win. You can't break even. You can't get out of the game.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-02-15   20:41:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#3)

Seems like the Berlin Wall fell just so all that totalitarianism that it was holding back could flow westward.

Who knew it was such an important levee!?

"War is a way of shattering to pieces...materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses... too intelligent." ~George Orwell

robin  posted on  2006-02-15   20:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: aristeides (#0)

Good lord.. and this doesnt even address the ghost prisoners.. those who are God only knows where..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-15   20:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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