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Title: Follow Up On Orlando Pulse Club False Flag
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URL Source: http://victuruslibertas.com/2016/06 ... orlando-pulse-club-false-flag/
Published: Jun 16, 2016
Author: Victurus Libertas
Post Date: 2016-06-16 10:07:20 by christine
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Comments: 100

We were among the first ones to spot all the clues that point to a false flag when the Orlando supposed mass shooting at the Pulse club happened early Sunday morning June 12, 2016. As more reports came out and more interviews took place, it was even more and more obvious this was indeed, a false flag. If you are not yet convinced, I encourage you to watch the short videos below.
We all saw this guy with the red tennis shoes being carried with an alleged gun shot wound to the leg. Watch this video closely. Watch the “rescuers” put down the “victim” when they think they are out of the shot of the camera:

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#39. To: christine (#0)
The first and 3rd element shown are not convincing to me of anything faked.
The guy with red shoes is not shown walking at all. At least I don't see it. They do stop and he stands without the assistance of one of the guys who carried him, but maybe with the help of the other guy and/or someone else. We cannot see that. But there's no footage of him walking at all, much less walking normally.
On the last clip with the interview, I saw a post somewhere where one of the patrons was describing how he held a door shut to protect himself in spite of others on the other side wanting to pass through it.
The footage of them allegedly carrying wounded towards Pulse is something I can't offer a counter explanation to, though. I'd want to see a map of the whole area, for 2-4 blocks in all directions.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-06-21 2:56:19 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#44. To: All, Christine, Lod, titorite (#39)
Spent a few minutes and found a map of the area, which marks the Stand Up MRI, Duncan Donuts, and the Pulse nightclub, and it does seem they were carrying wounded down the sidewalk in the general direction of Pulse.
However, they were also being carried in the general direction of the Orlando Regional Medical Center, which is about 6 blocks away from that location.
Here's a map, compliments of the Stand Up MRI.
www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=28.518827~-81.376900&lvl=16&sty=r&q=2010%20South%20Orange%20Avenue%20Orlando,%20FL%2032806&form=LMLTCC
In any event, seeing wounded carried in the direction of Pulse is not necessarily a sign of fakery. It should be remembered that it would have been a very chaotic situation with over 100 people killed or wounded. In an emergency situation, everyone would be running everywhere in all directions, and wounded people would flee or be taken somewhere most expedient for safety. Afterwards, when the danger is gone with the shooter dead, people, including wounded, can then relocate short distances for whatever reasons. They could be because lying down on concrete is not comforable. Maybe they lived nearby and wanted to go to their home/apartment. Maybe where most people went first was just too crowded. The less seriously wounded people would not have been attended to first by parametics, which are probably all those shown in the video being carried.
In a nutshell, it would have been a very chaotic scene as something almost no one involved was expecting or prepared for. So making too much out of the direction people were carried is just that, IMO.
I think Occam's razor applies here: The simplest explanation is the most likely explanation. To say the whole thing was faked is far, far harder to do than to say that it really did happen as depicted, as there are so many people involved and so much physical evidence that would have to be manufactured.
If there is something nefarious about the event, a far easier explanation is that it really happened but was instigated by several people (a conspiracy) and this Mateen guy was framed. In that case, the video footage questioning the authenticity of wounded people does not support that scenario and can similarly be discounted.
I've said many times that lending credence to the notion that everything is faked is more likely A) done out of an extreme sense of paranoia, or B) purposely done by PTB's to discredit any and all claims of "false flag" activity carried out by the government. That by conditioning teh public to accept that there are always "loons" out there who will say anything.
There is a time and place for paranoia. It can be a good and valid survival mechanism. But we still need to keep our feet on the ground in perceiving the reality around us. The USA is a country of 350 million people. The odds of a handful out of that number being willing and able to do what happened in Orlando is about as close to 100% as it can get without being 100%. Also, the government does not have God-like powers of ultimate control over the entire population. Individual people can do things to make national headline news.
My 2c.
PS: Not trying to make enemies out of anyone. This is just what I see and I hope it's appreciated that I took the time to compose all this. Peace.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-06-21 14:18:02 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#45. To: Pinguinite (#44)
Thanks for bringing the information and your thoughts to us. We'll likely never know the full truth of this event, like all the rest of them.

Lod posted on 2016-06-21 14:41:59 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#46. To: Lod (#45)
You're welcome. I am confident the gov does have a motivated interest is keeping the country at war of whatever type perpetually. It's easier to control the population that way, and except for the fact that the Orlando shooting, as depicted, will help Trump in the polls, the effects are otherwise fine for the PTB's. More gun control and more reason to wage wars in the Middle East.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-06-21 15:20:53 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#48. To: Pinguinite (#46)
Watch this. Try not to be influenced by the narrator although I agree with him. ;) Just tell me your opinion of this woman's behavior. This, in addition to the video where the reflection of the newsroom lights when she was supposedly being interviewed outside, were reflected in her glasses, make me believe she's a crisis actor.

christine posted on 2016-06-21 19:15:57 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#49. To: christine (#48)
Thanks, Chrissy. Is there a link or youtube that's supposed to be there?

Pinguinite posted on 2016-06-21 19:37:48 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#55. To: Pinguinite (#49)
memoryholeblog.com/2016/0...-shooting-in-u-s-history/

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– News footage shows no dead people, or even visibly injured people, no ambulances rushing to the scene, no colored triage tarps, no EMTs swarming the site, or anything else that might prove the “massacre” actually occurred as reported. A few “injured victims” are shown casually walked or carried away from the club, with one dumped into the back of a pickup for transport to the hospital. Such scenes were played over and over on television. As with the Sandy Hook “shooting,” we are supposed to believe the reports, despite the clear lack of evidence. (CNN)
– To make up for this lack, we have a parade of witnesses, sobbing without tears and giving unconvincing performances, as seen with many recent false flag events. These include Luis Burbano, who gave interviews to several media outlets soon after the Orlando “shooting.” Like Carlos Arredondo of Boston Marathon fame, Burbano became the face of courage under duress, reportedly removing his shirt to wrap it around a man’s arm and tying another piece of his clothing to a man’s leg.[5]
– Interviews by assorted officials also sound scripted and strange. These include State Senator Geraldine Thompson, who tells us she is the senator for the district that includes the Pulse night club “in Tallahassee” – although Pulse is actually in Orlando. (CNN)
– Drills were involved, as with many false flag events (more on this subject is sure to come). Oddly, the June 13 online edition of the Orlando Sentinel highlighted an article originally published in 2015, regarding a drill to prepare nurses for mass casualties.[8]
– Almost immediately, fund-raising efforts were underway on behalf of the “victims,” as is familiar from other staged events. Patty Sheehan, Orlando City Commissioner, assures us that there are already people out there raising money. In less than 24 hours, a fundraising page set up for the “victims” had raised $1.3 million, and surely more will roll in.[9]
– Also familiar are the online posts that precede the event, documented in Yahoo listings for articles about the Orlando “shooting” that are dated June 11, one day earlier.[10] This was the case for other false flag events, notably the Sandy Hook “shooting.”

christine posted on 2016-06-22 0:42:45 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#61. To: christine (#55)
– News footage shows no dead people, or even visibly injured people, no ambulances rushing to the scene, no colored triage tarps, no EMTs swarming the site, or anything else that might prove the “massacre” actually occurred as reported. A few “injured victims” are shown casually walked or carried away from the club, with one dumped into the back of a pickup for transport to the hospital. Such scenes were played over and over on television. As with the Sandy Hook “shooting,” we are supposed to believe the reports, despite the clear lack of evidence. (CNN)

But we already have footage of visibly injured people. We've seen that above. And plenty of emergency lights.

– To make up for this lack, we have a parade of witnesses, sobbing without tears and giving unconvincing performances, as seen with many recent false flag events. These include Luis Burbano, who gave interviews to several media outlets soon after the Orlando “shooting.” Like Carlos Arredondo of Boston Marathon fame, Burbano became the face of courage under duress, reportedly removing his shirt to wrap it around a man’s arm and tying another piece of his clothing to a man’s leg.[5]

This is all subjective.

– Interviews by assorted officials also sound scripted and strange. These include State Senator Geraldine Thompson, who tells us she is the senator for the district that includes the Pulse night club “in Tallahassee” – although Pulse is actually in Orlando. (CNN)

Since when have politicians been experts in who their constituents are?

– Drills were involved, as with many false flag events (more on this subject is sure to come). Oddly, the June 13 online edition of the Orlando Sentinel highlighted an article originally published in 2015, regarding a drill to prepare nurses for mass casualties.[8]

Meaning what? Is this author arguing the events were faked, or real but planned? It cannot be both.

– Almost immediately, fund-raising efforts were underway on behalf of the “victims,” as is familiar from other staged events. Patty Sheehan, Orlando City Commissioner, assures us that there are already people out there raising money. In less than 24 hours, a fundraising page set up for the “victims” had raised $1.3 million, and surely more will roll in.[9]

Meaning what?

– Also familiar are the online posts that precede the event, documented in Yahoo listings for articles about the Orlando “shooting” that are dated June 11, one day earlier.[10] This was the case for other false flag events, notably the Sandy Hook “shooting.”

Again, meaning what? They sell 2017 cars when it's still 2016. Mistakes are made, or news sites might be in the habit of doing alternate date stamps for press time reporting reasons.
All in all, Chrissy, some of the complaints you've reposted on this thread imply there were multiple shooters, while others are implying the shooting never happened. It cannot be both. Finding evidence of both pretty much invalidates both theories.
I will say this. We humans do have the unique ability to find whatever we seek, even if what we seek does not exist. Anyone who is convinced an event did not happen who looks for evidence it didn't will be successful. It's in the power of our minds to do so. Remaining objective and balanced while considering alternate possibilities is a very serious challenge.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-06-22 2:03:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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#62. To: Pinguinite (#61)
Shell casings and bullets holes. the floor should be covered , littered in shell casings and the walls and other objects should be riddled with bullet holes .... to say nothing about how long it would take a hazmat team to.clean it all up after the police properly investigated. That club should never open again if this was all as presented on teevee...
Man if grayLmist were still.here. she.could probably break it all down better than any of.us.

But above all, parents dont smile and laugh when their children are murdered. Hands dont deflect bullets. And the propaganda engine of the us media is getting stronger if you think.this was real as presented.

Youre entitled to your opinion on it pingunite. But if the proponderence of.evidence doesnt make.you suscpiciius ......then i dont know.what more.could be said to.encourage critical thinking. God speed.

titorite posted on 2016-06-22 04:40:38 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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