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Title: CHENEY CLAIMS NOBODY WAS DRINKING -- BUT HE HAD A BEER
Source: nolu chan
URL Source: http://none
Published: Feb 16, 2006
Author: nolu chan
Post Date: 2006-02-16 18:29:39 by nolu_chan
Keywords: DRINKING, CHENEY, CLAIMS
Views: 2013
Comments: 172

CHENEY CLAIMS NOBODY WAS DRINKING -- BUT HE HAD A BEER

CHENEY INTERVIEW WITH BRIT HUME

Q Was anybody drinking in this party?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: No. You don't hunt with people who drink. That's not a good idea. We had --

Q So he wasn't, and you weren't?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Correct. We'd taken a break at lunch -- go down under an old -- ancient oak tree there on the place, and have a barbecue. I had a beer at lunch. After lunch we take a break, go back to ranch headquarters. Then we took about an hour-long tour of ranch, with a ranch hand driving the vehicle, looking at game. We didn't go back into the field to hunt quail until about, oh, sometime after 3:00 p.m.

The five of us who were in that party were together all afternoon. Nobody was drinking, nobody was under the influence.

Nobody was drinking. You don't hunt with people who drink. That's not a good idea. We took a BBQ lunch break in the field under a tree and he had a beer. Then they went back to ranch headquarters. They went back out hunting quail at about 3:00 p.m.. Nobody was drinking, nobody was under the influence.

Uh huh.

Notice that they had lunch in the field and then went back to the ranch headquarters. The beer was in the field with them. Presumably that was just ONE (1) beer and Cheney drank it while everyone else drank their Dr. Pepper and watched him drink his ONE (1) beer.

Uh huh.

When did they eat lunch? When did they finish lunch? Had the beer passed through his system by 3:00 p.m.?

Wait a minute. What beer? Nobody was drinking. You don't hunt with people who drink. That's not a good idea. Nobody was drinking, nobody was under the influence.

Wait a minute. Maybe he was parsing. If it is not Wild Turkey or the equivalent, it is not considered drinking.

Whatever. Brit Hume let it slide.

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#26. To: Feynman Lives! (#24)

What did I do that pissed you off?

You're a liar.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-02-16   19:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Feynman Lives! (#1)

You missed it completely!

I know people who consider two or three drinks of ANYTHING to be in the category of NOT DRINKING.

(I also don't let them drive me anywhere)

Why, I doubt you trust such a person with a loaded shotgun to go hunting quail with you. And if you do, you hope and pray he misses you completely.

If Cheney was tight, you must indict! :-)

nolu_chan  posted on  2006-02-16   19:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Feynman Lives! (#25)

To be honest, the only reason I had any clue what Deep Ellum was came from a 12" vinyl LP I bought at hippie record store in the early 90's. It was called "Dude You Rock" and featured bands from D.E. It's in a box with a bunch of other weird records, but I remember it has a band called mc 900 foot jesus

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-16   19:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Dakmar (#28)

I bought at hippie record store in the early 90's

There were hippies in the 90's??

nolu_chan  posted on  2006-02-16   19:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Feynman Lives! (#25)

ROFL... so if people are smart, they are all the same?

Fox people anyway

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-16   19:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: nolu_chan (#29)

Deadheads, phish types, sure.

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-16   19:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

You're a liar.

I am a liar? Well, I guess on some level, we have all lied at one point or another in our lives.

YOU call me a liar, yet you do not know me, so what is your factual proof of this allegation?

"There are 10 the 11th power stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." ----Richard Feynman
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." ----1796 Treaty of Tripoli — initiated by George Washington and signed into law by John Adams

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-16   19:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

Dick Cheney was just exercising his Second Amendment Rights. Its not like he is a terrorist or anything ... just because the rest of us, are.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   19:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Dakmar (#28)

To be honest, the only reason I had any clue what Deep Ellum was came from a 12" vinyl LP

Well.. you ain't missing any great shakes. Deep Ellum 6 years ago was a cool place to be, now it is a ghost town. I don't think I have been down there 5 times in the past two years. That area has ONE saving grace, a decent blues bar called Deep Ellum Blues that has somehow managed to survive after all these years. LOL, you have an album with BANDS from Deep Ellum? Wow, I don't know of any band FROM Deep Ellum. LOL Of course, you did say that album was from the 1990s.

"There are 10 the 11th power stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." ----Richard Feynman
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." ----1796 Treaty of Tripoli — initiated by George Washington and signed into law by John Adams

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-16   19:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: buckeroo (#33)

Dick Cheney was just exercising his Second Amendment Rights. Its not like he is a terrorist or anything ... just because the rest of us, are

Hey, so the Vice President of the United States shot a citizen in the face with a shotgun. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?

I just don't see why everyone is making such a fuss over this. Doesn't this happen all the time?

"There are 10 the 11th power stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." ----Richard Feynman
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." ----1796 Treaty of Tripoli — initiated by George Washington and signed into law by John Adams

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-16   19:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Feynman Lives! (#32)

YOU call me a liar, yet you do not know me,

Pantload. You were here once as Richard. Now you deny it. As I said, you're a lair.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-02-16   19:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jethro Tull (#36)

Pantload. You were here once as Richard. Now you deny it. As I said, you're a lair.

WOW Jethro, you really live up to your hillbilly namesake.

You SAY I am a liar, so it must be true? What a wonderful world you must live in where your word makes you god.

Sorry to disappoint, but that does not fly outside of your stunted imagination.

I don't TRY to deny that I am Richard, I completely and categorically deny it because I am, in fact, not Richard.

You may call me a liar if you like, you may call me a cruis ship if you like, but it wont make it true. The truth is, I am not Richard.

Now I am sure you will have some juvenile comment to make about this... so get on with it...

"There are 10 the 11th power stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." ----Richard Feynman
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." ----1796 Treaty of Tripoli — initiated by George Washington and signed into law by John Adams

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-16   20:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Feynman Lives! (#35)

I just got an email from Deadeye, he wants ya on the quail range.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   21:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Feynman Lives! (#35)

Got any Kevlar?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   21:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#39)

Got any Kevlar?

LOL!

"There are 10 the 11th power stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." ----Richard Feynman
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." ----1796 Treaty of Tripoli — initiated by George Washington and signed into law by John Adams

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-16   21:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Feynman Lives! (#40)

Its not funny when the government can literally kill people while taking our God-Given Rights away. I mean to say or to intend to say, this is America, isn't it?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   21:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#41)

Its not funny when the government can literally kill people while taking our God-Given Rights away. I mean to say or to intend to say, this is America, isn't it?

I agree with you on everything except that they are not "god given" rights.

"There are 10 the 11th power stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." ----Richard Feynman
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." ----1796 Treaty of Tripoli — initiated by George Washington and signed into law by John Adams

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-16   21:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Feynman Lives! (#37)

JT is named for Jethro Tull, the rock band, not the Jethro from the Beverly Hillbillies.

Jethro Tull is a progressive rock band that formed in Blackpool, England in the 1960s. Their music is marked by the quirky vocal style and unique lead flute work of frontman Ian Anderson and by unusual and often complex song construction. Their music, though starting with blues rock with an experimental flavour, has incorporated elements of classical and celtic folk music, as well as art rock and alternative rock. Anderson has attributed the difference between their music and most rock to the fact that Tull never used drugs. In addition, while other music groups did influence them, they stuck with their own style of progressive rock tinged with classic forms of music.

But I bet you knew that.

christine  posted on  2006-02-16   21:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Feynman Lives! (#42)

Why do you not think I have a God-Given Right to own my gun and ammo?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   21:24:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeroo (#38)

They're gonna laugh at you...

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-16   21:25:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: buckeroo (#44)

Why do you not think I have a God-Given Right to own my gun and ammo?

I believe that you have the right to own a gun and ammo. I do not believe that right was given to you by any god.

"There are 10 the 11th power stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." ----Richard Feynman
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." ----1796 Treaty of Tripoli — initiated by George Washington and signed into law by John Adams

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-16   21:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Feynman Lives! (#42)

Killing people is about all fireamrs do ( with the exception of my museum quality firearm pieces)

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   21:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: buckeroo (#44)

I'll bet Cheney was as drunk as a monkey.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-02-16   21:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Feynman Lives! (#46)

Whoa! My god says you are wrong.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   21:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: buckeroo (#49)

Whoa! My god says you are wrong.

Buckeroo,

I understand that YOU say I am wrong, but your god has said nothing on the subject.

I mean no offense, by the by, just sticking to the facts of the matter.

"There are 10 the 11th power stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." ----Richard Feynman
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." ----1796 Treaty of Tripoli — initiated by George Washington and signed into law by John Adams

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-16   21:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Fred Mertz (#48)

Fred -

As god is my witness ... ( and I know you enjoy my little points of view from time to time) I just purchased a 1965 Dianna shotgun. Cost me about 8K.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   21:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: buckeroo (#47)

Killing people is about all fireamrs do ( with the exception of my museum quality firearm pieces)

NO WAY!

What about shooting road signs?

"There are 10 the 11th power stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." ----Richard Feynman
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." ----1796 Treaty of Tripoli — initiated by George Washington and signed into law by John Adams

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-16   21:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Fred Mertz (#48)

As always.... museum grade. This is one of the best!

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   21:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Feynman Lives! (#52)

What about shooting road signs?

I am a lover. God will tell you that. And, our deliverer, GWBush is our anointed one telling everyone how I should finance their freedoms. Democracy is serious stuff.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   21:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: buckeroo (#53)

I bought some sort of Jap rifle from WW2. I think it's a 7.7 or something along those lines.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-02-16   21:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: christine (#43)

ANOTHER 'Feynman Lives!' thread...I'm going to go clean the cat box. Good night.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-02-16   21:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Fred Mertz (#55)


May God Bless all.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-02-16   21:44:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: who knows what evil (#56)

no! come back here and post something else! ;)

christine  posted on  2006-02-16   21:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Feynman Lives!, Jethro Tull, christine, Zipporah, Dakmar, duckhunter, All (#32)

YOU call me a liar, yet you do not know me, so what is your factual proof of this allegation?

Dakmar's post #6 at 19:09:55

You seem capable of understanding internet links, yet you have ostensibly failed to do any research on a former poster named Richard, although you have been accused of being that person many times by many posters. Do you just have damaged areas in your brain or something, some sort of mental blind spot?

Your response post #12 at 19:24:01

... well, my original thought was that he was naturally calling me Richard because of my screen name FEYNMAN LIVES! which is an homage to the good Dr Richard Feynman. Why would I naturally presume he was talking about an old poster if the name he is using has significance to MY screen name?

After reading your post I have gone back and read some of the stuff from the guy he was talking about. He seemed bent on that incident in Deep Ellum last month. So what? He says he was there, maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. I am far too busy not giving a damn to care either way. It looks like he was fixated on that one thing.

And in between those two posts:

#9. To: Dakmar at 19:13:50

#10. To: Jethro Tull at 19:14:56

So between Dakmar's post #6 and your #12, exactly 14 mins and 6 seconds elapsed (24:01 - 09:55) during which time you also read three posts to you and made three reponses for which I estimate 1 min each to refresh and read the post and 1 minute to compose and write the repsonses or at least 6 minutes minimum for responses #9, #10 & #12, leaving about 8 mins to find Richard's posts and read enough of them to be knowledgable enough of Richard's posting history at that point to claim in your post #12:

After reading your post I have gone back and read some of the stuff from the guy he was talking about. He seemed bent on that incident in Deep Ellum last month. So what? He says he was there, maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. I am far too busy not giving a damn to care either way. It looks like he was fixated on that one thing.

Further, here in your post #14. To: christine at 19:29:01

Think about it, Richard was OBSESSED with that incident in Deep Ellum, he swears up and down the yard that he was there and he posted a couple hundred times on that one thread.

And here in your post #20. To: Dakmar at 19:33:25

From reading his posts he does sound like a lawyer, and he certainly does seem know the Deep Ellum area. However, I don't know enough about the incident to comment one way or the other as to whether or not he was there. As for the conflicting reports...

So between your post #12 and your post #20 is another 9 mins and 26 secs (33: 25 - 24:01) elapsed but assuming again 4 minutes to read and respond in posts #14 and #20 yields another 5 mins and 26 secs for additional 'research' of Richard's posting history, for a total of 13 minutes and 26 seconds for you to read a 784 post thread, find Richard's posts, read them and assess Richard's posting history.

So in the first 8 minutes of 'research' of an 784 post thread you determined that Richard:

and in the next 5 minutes and 26 secs of 'research' you determined that Richard:

You want us to believe that you just this evening between 19:09:55 and 19:33: 25 (an interval of 23 and a half minutes total) you researched Richard's posts from a 784 post thread and also read and responded to 5 posts on this very thread.

No one believes that, Richard. You know Richard's posting history not because you figured it out in 13 minutes, but because you are the poster previously known as "Richard". You've fooled no one. Your M.O. was pegged within a day of you're being here but many people were patient and tolerant, which you returned with derision and lies.

You might have had a little credibility but when you post blatant falsehoods like:

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=19442&Disp=14#C14

I can show you 200 people who use the same argumentative style as I do. They would all also be lawyers, 9 times out of 10.

You don't know 200 laywers, and the few you might know wouldn't argue like you do (not in court, well, not twice anyway) and "all" does not equate to "9 times out of 10". But you didn't even think about the facts when you posted, no, your keyboard just runs mindlessly out of control.

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19372&Disp=14#C14

A shotgun is commonly also referred to as a rifle in modern parlance, Duck, but thanks.

Ignoring the fact you're posting to a "duck hunter" (duh!) who would know, a "rifle" is a firearm with a rifled bore, and "rifling" means to cut spiral grooves within a gun barrel, the purpose of which is to spin the bullet upon exit at the muzzle for better ballistics, whereas "shot" guns expel shot pellets (encased in a shot cup) through a smooth bore barrel with no rifling because the shot cup is not supposed to rotate or spin down the barrel.

You pretend to know what you're talking about when it is blatantly obvious to all of us you're lying.

You not only demonstrate a total disregard for truth but also a childlike naivete in what you think you can get away with.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2006-02-16   21:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Starwind (#59)

You not only demonstrate a total disregard for truth but also a childlike naivete in what you think you can get away with.

what you said.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-02-16   22:00:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Starwind, Feynman Lives! (#59)

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-16   22:08:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Starwind (#59)

So in the first 8 minutes of 'research' of an 784 post thread you determined that Richard:

"says he was there" "bent" and "fixated" and in the next 5 minutes and 26 secs of 'research' you determined that Richard:

"posted a couple hundred times", "swears up and down the yeard that he was there" "certainly does seem to know the Deep Ellum area" "conflicting reports"

Starwind,

Wow, not sure who you are, but you are sure jumping on Jethro's bandwagon pretty hard. ROFL

Yes, this was my initial assessment after a cursory view of the thread. I have to read and digest enormous volumes of written material every day for a living. I know how to read for comprehension, not content, so I read much faster than you do. It does not take much reading to learn the things that you said there. Any psychologist or psychiatrist could give you the same base level assessment in the same time. Had I taken another 10 minutes I could have told you much more about the situation, but, as I said earlier, I just don't care that much about the case.

The rest of it just appears to be you going WELL out of your way to try to pick a fight with me over small matters that really don't concern you, so I will just ignore them.

Oh, and I am not gonna bother bickering with you about what name you wanna give me. I will tell you one time, and quite politely, that my name is not Richard, but in fact, Monty. I don't know who you are or why you have reacted in such an odd fashion, but once again, I will add this to the list of things about which I just do not care.

From there, you are free to go off on whatever rant you see fit.

You are too filled with hate to do anyone any good.

"There are 10 the 11th power stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." ----Richard Feynman
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." ----1796 Treaty of Tripoli — initiated by George Washington and signed into law by John Adams

Feynman Lives!  posted on  2006-02-16   22:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Zipporah, Jethro Tull (#61)

I'll rent him out to you... cheap?

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2006-02-16   22:11:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Feynman Lives! (#62)

I have to read and digest enormous volumes of written material every day for a living.

Yeah. We see you 'reading and digesting' huge volumes of bandwidth here daily.

But none of that digestion included the difference between shotguns and rifles, though, or the difference between "All" and "9 out of 10", now did it.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2006-02-16   22:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Starwind (#64)

Yeah. We see you 'reading and digesting' huge volumes of bandwidth here daily.

LOL!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-16   22:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Starwind (#63)

If he's been shown to be less than honest with the forum, he should be banished to PL until he can demonstrate that he's ready to come back to 4um.

Trace21231  posted on  2006-02-16   22:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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