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Title: Trump Responds to "Tough, Nasty" Question About "Zionist Israel" During Town Hall Q & A
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On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at a campaign event in Manchester, New Hampshire, a man at the town hall told Donald Trump he's "opposed to wasting our military in the Middle East on behalf of Zionist Israel." Trump replied "Israel is a very, very important ally of the United States and we are going to protect them 100%. 100%. It's our true friend over there." Later, Trump added "That was a tough question on Israel. That was nasty. Whoa." The man who asked about "Zionist Israel" also said"I'm opposed to the murder of unborn babies being legal," to which Trump replied "We are with you." Watch the video here:
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#3. To: All, lod, horse (#0)
what was "nasty" about the polite old guy's question?
I agree with the old guy on the 2nd question but not the first.
Do you support our giving away our blood and money to and for the zionists?
His first question was abortion. I disagreed with him on banning abortions. His second statement was on supporting Israel. He was opposed to wars for Israel as am I.
That has always been a touchy subject. A total ban on abortions would be too harsh since there are times when a woman cannot be expected to bear a child. If there are congenital problems or the pregnancy is from a rape, abortion should be considered. But then I went to High School with a kid. He got his girlfriend pregnant and they had to drop out. ;)
That has always been a touchy subject. A total ban on abortions would be too harsh since there are times when a woman cannot be expected to bear a child. If there are congenital problems or the pregnancy is from a rape, abortion should be considered. I understand rape is a terrible crime but why sentence an innocent to death over it? abortion should not be legal, period. any mind-twisting or attempted justification for infanticide is straight from hell. it really is as simple as that. :-)
any mind-twisting or attempted justification for infanticide is straight from hell. it really is as simple as that. :-) Would you oppose giving rape victims a morning after pill to prevent conception before the swimmer even makes it to home base?
Would you oppose giving rape victims a morning after pill to prevent conception before the swimmer even makes it to home base? I agree that is a specific distinction, since conception has not occurred, supposedly, but even that is not cut and dried. (see below.) The short answer is yes, I oppose RU486. Because catholics are not against 'contraception' depending on whether or not conception has occurred, they are against contraception because it is inserting human will and interest in place of God's. I should note that I am referring to the actual catholic teaching, not what a large majority of cafeteria catholics spout or practice. Natural family planning which involves abstinence at times is actually accepted and taught by parishes worldwide. imagine that! having to abstain periodically instead of using a rubber or death pills! :-) An RU486/PG induced abortion can take days, weeks, or never happen at all. It typically involves three (or more) visits to the doctor's office over a two week period. In her first visit, a woman is "counseled," given a physical examination, perhaps an ultrasound, and if there are no obvious contraindications (common red flags such as high blood pressure, diabetes, heavy smoking, allergies, etc. that could make taking the drug deadly or dangerous for her), she is given the RU486 pills, which she takes in the presence of the abortionist. Two days later, during a second visit to the doctor's office, she is given the prostaglandin, which she takes orally or has inserted vaginally. Gradually, as the drug begins to take effect, she experiences powerful, painful uterine contractions which begin to work to expel the baby. In U.S. trials, about half (49%) aborted during the four hours they spent waiting in the doctor's office following the administration of the prostaglandin. An additional 26 % aborted sometime over the next 20 hours, on the bus ride home, at work, in the shower, etc. The rest who aborted did so at some point during the following two weeks. Between 8% and 23% (depending on how many weeks pregnant the mother was) never completely aborted or didn't abort at all using the drugs. A third visit some 14 days from the woman's initial visit allows the doctor to confirm whether or not the abortion has been completed. If it hasn't, the abortionist will encourage the woman to undergo a surgical abortion to guard against the possibility that she will give birth to a child who may have been injured by the drugs. RU 486 abortion pill unsafe despite media reports http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/ru_486_abortion_pill_uns afe_despite_media_reports/ Washington D.C., Aug 17, 2007 / 09:40 am (CNA).- A recent study appearing in the August 16 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine reports that the abortion drug RU486 is as safe as having a surgical abortion. However, the study is being spun in favor of the abortion industry by the mainstream media. The study has concluded that the risk to future pregnancies after a RU486 abortion versus a surgical abortion is equal. Journalists have interpreted the finding to mean that the abortion drug is safe, when in fact, neither is ever safe. It is a leap in logic to say that both methods are safe, says Operation Rescue Senior Policy Advisor Cheryl Sullenger. "Women are dying at an alarming rate from RU486 abortions and its widespread misuse in the abortion industry,” she told LifeSiteNews.com. "Women who have had abortions have greater risks of miscarriage and infertility than women who have not had abortions,” she added. Sullenger noted that the study did not compare women who had RU486 abortions with women who did not have any abortions. “It is no accident that the study refused to compare these two groups of women, because we know they would have found that abortion hurts women, and that is obviously a conclusion that they did not want to reach," Sullenger was quoted as saying. RU486 is a drug approved for aborting children who are at six weeks or less in their development. Three office visits are usually required for this kind of abortion. Some reports indicate that RU486 has a 15% failure rate, and that many women who receive the drug must also have a surgical abortion to completely remove the pre-born baby and other pregnancy tissue. "Hiding the possibility of RU486's life-threatening dangers from women really shows that there is more concern [among the media] for selling abortions than for protecting and informing women,” Sullenger continued. “This misinformation campaign is really a horrific thing when you think about it that could needlessly cost women's lives."
Every time I ask some Catholic or funnymentalist parent whether they use birth control, they clam up. They're certainly not having kids like the Hasidim -- that would be a heroic level of self-restraint over decades!?!
well it certainly is an interesting topic. widespread birth control has been promoted by the likes of ghoul bush senior and his ilk for years. the power that be have been very successful, resulting in a plummeting birth rate. so I think its kind of funny when white power folks whine that the Mexicans are out- birthing them. also I believe that fertility rates in general have dropped substantially for a number of reasons, so this contributes to it.
Whom did GHWB successfully promote contraception to -- Africa? You'd disagree with that in other words? www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation- world/world/article24566695.html And you think white power people shouldn't complain about the invaders' prolificity, is that it? Rivero keeps saying they're having less kids and blaming it on GMO corn -- you know the Mexicanos and their tortillas. Every cloud has a silver lining :-]
To the entire world. George H.W. Bush: Evil Population Control Ghoul - Rubbers Goes to Congress Yes,. Bush is a freemason, a Satanist and arch criminal. I don't agree with him or the likes of him on anything. Also: The people who complain about whites not having kids should realize that that is by their own stupid choice. birth control, abortion and selfishness. it is pathetic.
So you're not going to agree with Bush about anything, even if he's right, and you think it's stupid to be alarmed by "immigrants" breeding like rabbits? Just trying to get the picture. Nobody's commenting on my thesis that by all powers of deduction, good Catholics have to be using lots of birth control :-)
Bush is not right . since he is a Satanist, he by definition can not be right. and no, abortion and population control is not right and has never been, with conservatives. a Catholic who uses artificial birth control is being selfish, hedonistic, and is playing God,. they are committing a mortal sin. That is not good.
Oh, God -- not that. Not you! This is like when W started his genocide. Merely because he was Republican, half the otherwise intelligent people I knew fanatically supported it regardless of previous sanity levels. More than one told me "WE CAN'T AGREE WITH THE DEMOCRATS ABOUT ANYTHING" even if it means a million dead Iraqis and thousands of "body bags". A stopt clock is right twice a day -- nobody can lie about literally everything?!?! 98% of all-American Catholic wives are damning themselves to 500 years in purgatory by not using the rithm method :-3 https://www.guttmacher.org/article/2012/02/guttmacher-statistic-catholic- womens-contraceptive-use (I'm your 2-legged mosquito, huh, Art :-)
just to clarify bud, you cant damn yourself to purgatory. the souls in purgatory are not damned. if you make it to purgatory, yes you have to make reparation there, )hence why Jesus says to "pray for the dead.") but if one makes it to purgatory, they are not damned. they are far from damned. they have made it to heaven. some saints have described purgatory as a hell with a hope. whereas if someone dies in the state of mortal sin, there is no hope. its over. people condemned to hell have no hope. now these days many people do not believe that satan exists or that there is a hell. "why, how could a loving benevolent God send souls to hell!?" they cry. Yes God is a loving God but He is a just God too. the lie that satan and hell does not exist is the biggest lie people fall for. It is very sad.
Where is heaven, and where is hell?
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church: http: //www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a12.htm I. THE PARTICULAR JUDGMENT 1021 Death puts an end to human life as the time open to either accepting or rejecting the divine grace manifested in Christ.592 The New Testament speaks of judgment primarily in its aspect of the final encounter with Christ in his second coming, but also repeatedly affirms that each will be rewarded immediately after death in accordance with his works and faith. The parable of the poor man Lazarus and the words of Christ on the cross to the good thief, as well as other New Testament texts speak of a final destiny of the soul--a destiny which can be different for some and for others.593 1022 Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification594 or immediately,595 -- or immediate and everlasting damnation.596 At the evening of life, we shall be judged on our love.597 II. HEAVEN 1023 Those who die in God's grace and friendship and are perfectly purified live for ever with Christ. They are like God for ever, for they "see him as he is," face to face:598 By virtue of our apostolic authority, we define the following: According to the general disposition of God, the souls of all the saints . . . and other faithful who died after receiving Christ's holy Baptism (provided they were not in need of purification when they died, . . . or, if they then did need or will need some purification, when they have been purified after death, . . .) already before they take up their bodies again and before the general judgment - and this since the Ascension of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ into heaven - have been, are and will be in heaven, in the heavenly Kingdom and celestial paradise with Christ, joined to the company of the holy angels. Since the Passion and death of our Lord Jesus Christ, these souls have seen and do see the divine essence with an intuitive vision, and even face to face, without the mediation of any creature.599 1024 This perfect life with the Most Holy Trinity - this communion of life and love with the Trinity, with the Virgin Mary, the angels and all the blessed - is called "heaven." Heaven is the ultimate end and fulfillment of the deepest human longings, the state of supreme, definitive happiness. 1025 To live in heaven is "to be with Christ." The elect live "in Christ,"600 but they retain, or rather find, their true identity, their own name.601 For life is to be with Christ; where Christ is, there is life, there is the kingdom.602 1026 By his death and Resurrection, Jesus Christ has "opened" heaven to us. The life of the blessed consists in the full and perfect possession of the fruits of the redemption accomplished by Christ. He makes partners in his heavenly glorification those who have believed in him and remained faithful to his will. Heaven is the blessed community of all who are perfectly incorporated into Christ. 1027 This mystery of blessed communion with God and all who are in Christ is beyond all understanding and description. Scripture speaks of it in images: life, light, peace, wedding feast, wine of the kingdom, the Father's house, the heavenly Jerusalem, paradise: "no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man conceived, what God has prepared for those who love him."603 1028 Because of his transcendence, God cannot be seen as he is, unless he himself opens up his mystery to man's immediate contemplation and gives him the capacity for it. The Church calls this contemplation of God in his heavenly glory "the beatific vision": How great will your glory and happiness be, to be allowed to see God, to be honored with sharing the joy of salvation and eternal light with Christ your Lord and God, . . . to delight in the joy of immortality in the Kingdom of heaven with the righteous and God's friends.604 1029 In the glory of heaven the blessed continue joyfully to fulfill God's will in relation to other men and to all creation. Already they reign with Christ; with him "they shall reign for ever and ever."605 III. THE FINAL PURIFICATION, OR PURGATORY 1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven. 1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607 As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.608 1032 This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin."609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.610 The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead: Let us help and commemorate them. If Job's sons were purified by their father's sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.611 IV. HELL 1033 We cannot be united with God unless we freely choose to love him. But we cannot love God if we sin gravely against him, against our neighbor or against ourselves: "He who does not love remains in death. Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him."612 Our Lord warns us that we shall be separated from him if we fail to meet the serious needs of the poor and the little ones who are his brethren.613 To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called "hell." 1034 Jesus often speaks of "Gehenna" of "the unquenchable fire" reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost.614 Jesus solemnly proclaims that he "will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,"615 and that he will pronounce the condemnation: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!"616 1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."617 The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs. 1036 The affirmations of Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Church on the subject of hell are a call to the responsibility incumbent upon man to make use of his freedom in view of his eternal destiny. They are at the same time an urgent call to conversion: "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few."618 Since we know neither the day nor the hour, we should follow the advice of the Lord and watch constantly so that, when the single course of our earthly life is completed, we may merit to enter with him into the marriage feast and be numbered among the blessed, and not, like the wicked and slothful servants, be ordered to depart into the eternal fire, into the outer darkness where "men will weep and gnash their teeth."619 1037 God predestines no one to go to hell;620 for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want "any to perish, but all to come to repentance":621 Father, accept this offering from your whole family. Grant us your peace in this life, save us from final damnation, and count us among those you have chosen.622 V. THE LAST JUDGMENT 1038 The resurrection of all the dead, "of both the just and the unjust,"623 will precede the Last Judgment. This will be "the hour when all who are in the tombs will hear [the Son of man's] voice and come forth, those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment."624 Then Christ will come "in his glory, and all the angels with him. . . . Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. . . . And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."625 1039 In the presence of Christ, who is Truth itself, the truth of each man's relationship with God will be laid bare.626 The Last Judgment will reveal even to its furthest consequences the good each person has done or failed to do during his earthly life: All that the wicked do is recorded, and they do not know. When "our God comes, he does not keep silence.". . . he will turn towards those at his left hand: . . . "I placed my poor little ones on earth for you. I as their head was seated in heaven at the right hand of my Father - but on earth my members were suffering, my members on earth were in need. If you gave anything to my members, what you gave would reach their Head. Would that you had known that my little ones were in need when I placed them on earth for you and appointed them your stewards to bring your good works into my treasury. But you have placed nothing in their hands; therefore you have found nothing in my presence."627 1040 The Last Judgment will come when Christ returns in glory. Only the Father knows the day and the hour; only he determines the moment of its coming. Then through his Son Jesus Christ he will pronounce the final word on all history. We shall know the ultimate meaning of the whole work of creation and of the entire economy of salvation and understand the marvelous ways by which his Providence led everything towards its final end. The Last Judgment will reveal that God's justice triumphs over all the injustices committed by his creatures and that God's love is stronger than death.628 1041 The message of the Last Judgment calls men to conversion while God is still giving them "the acceptable time, . . . the day of salvation."629 It inspires a holy fear of God and commits them to the justice of the Kingdom of God. It proclaims the "blessed hope" of the Lord's return, when he will come "to be glorified in his saints, and to be marveled at in all who have believed."630
I didn't really see any explanation for WHERE either heaven or hell are, did you? If I were to guess, they would be in some other realm beyond our universe, right? That would make those places extraterrestrial obviously. Do you believe there are such things as extraterrestrials? Myself, I DO believe in extraterrestrials within and beyond our physical universe. However, do you really think that which exists beyond our universe would be the realm of the same jealous, vindictive, angry "God" as described in the Old Testament? I think there are forces, realms, and beings we simply can not understand or fathom. Primitive peoples came up with various mythologies to explain things they couldn't otherwise understand, and described them in human terms. Examples are that the early church taught that the universe revolved around the earth, and that it was flat. They didn't quite know what the stars were, but felt strongly that's where heaven was. For all we truly know, hell could be here on earth, it could be purgatory, or it could even be heaven for some people. Or it could be something else entirely.
No, the church doesn't get into that in the catechism. although there have been some apparitions by various saints which describe hell (note- even if they are approved by the church, Catholics are not 'required' to believe in such apparitions. it is not a doctrine of the church.) But anyway- supposedly hell is in the center of the earth. heaven would be yes, in a different sphere. I believe that if they exist as some claim, they might just be demons. which is why they would appear reptilian (snake like,) but all in all, I'm not worried about it., & not very interested in the topic. I've heard many people scoff as you have at the notion of how an angry and vindictive 'God' could at the same time be loving and forgiving, yet send people to hell to suffer for all eternity? as the church teaches, people basically choose hell by sticking with their sinful ways. they have a choice. God gave us free will. there are consequences to our actions and lives. That is why I view this life as a grand test. serious stuff. the spiritual battle in the world is between God and satan; it is a battle literally for souls.
And what about angels, are they really just demons too? In fact, since God doesn't live here on Earth, is he also a demon?
And what about angels, are they really just demons too? In fact, since God doesn't live here on Earth, is he also a demon? that is a ridiculous question, although I maybe I should assume that you aren't familiar with the basic structure of Christian teaching, which I find very difficult (impossible) to believe. I didn't say that any entity not of this world was a reptilian demon. what I said was, IF these alleged space aliens roaming around who look repltilian are real, then they very well could be demons. aka devils. devils are simply fallen angels, who rebelled against God an were cast into hell. they are allowed some power and spend it tempting people and causing havoc in this world. to try to drag souls into hell. Here is a section from the Catechism on angels: (I will post a separate reply on demons (fallen angels). PART ONE THE PROFESSION OF FAITH SECTION TWO THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH CHAPTER ONE I BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER ARTICLE I "I BELIEVE IN GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH" Paragraph 5. Heaven and Earth 325 The Apostles' Creed professes that God is "creator of heaven and earth". The Nicene Creed makes it explicit that this profession includes "all that is, seen and unseen". 326 The Scriptural expression "heaven and earth" means all that exists, creation in its entirety. It also indicates the bond, deep within creation, that both unites heaven and earth and distinguishes the one from the other: "the earth" is the world of men, while "heaven" or "the heavens" can designate both the firmament and God's own "place" - "our Father in heaven" and consequently the "heaven" too which is eschatological glory. Finally, "heaven" refers to the saints and the "place" of the spiritual creatures, the angels, who surround God.186 327 The profession of faith of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) affirms that God "from the beginning of time made at once (simul) out of nothing both orders of creatures, the spiritual and the corporeal, that is, the angelic and the earthly, and then (deinde) the human creature, who as it were shares in both orders, being composed of spirit and body."187 I. THE ANGELS The existence of angels - a truth of faith 328 The existence of the spiritual, non-corporeal beings that Sacred Scripture usually calls "angels" is a truth of faith. The witness of Scripture is as clear as the unanimity of Tradition. Who are they? 329 St. Augustine says: "'Angel' is the name of their office, not of their nature. If you seek the name of their nature, it is 'spirit'; if you seek the name of their office, it is 'angel': from what they are, 'spirit', from what they do, 'angel.'"188 With their whole beings the angels are servants and messengers of God. Because they "always behold the face of my Father who is in heaven" they are the "mighty ones who do his word, hearkening to the voice of his word".189 330 As purely spiritual creatures angels have intelligence and will: they are personal and immortal creatures, surpassing in perfection all visible creatures, as the splendor of their glory bears witness.190 Christ "with all his angels" 331 Christ is the center of the angelic world. They are his angels: "When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him. . "191 They belong to him because they were created through and for him: "for in him all things were created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities - all things were created through him and for him."192 They belong to him still more because he has made them messengers of his saving plan: "Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to serve, for the sake of those who are to obtain salvation?"193 332 Angels have been present since creation and throughout the history of salvation, announcing this salvation from afar or near and serving the accomplishment of the divine plan: they closed the earthly paradise; protected Lot; saved Hagar and her child; stayed Abraham's hand; communicated the law by their ministry; led the People of God; announced births and callings; and assisted the prophets, just to cite a few examples.194 Finally, the angel Gabriel announced the birth of the Precursor and that of Jesus himself.195 333 From the Incarnation to the Ascension, the life of the Word incarnate is surrounded by the adoration and service of angels. When God "brings the firstborn into the world, he says: 'Let all God's angels worship him.'"196 Their song of praise at the birth of Christ has not ceased resounding in the Church's praise: "Glory to God in the highest!"197 They protect Jesus in his infancy, serve him in the desert, strengthen him in his agony in the garden, when he could have been saved by them from the hands of his enemies as Israel had been.198 Again, it is the angels who "evangelize" by proclaiming the Good News of Christ's Incarnation and Resurrection.199 They will be present at Christ's return, which they will announce, to serve at his judgement.200 The angels in the life of the Church 334 In the meantime, the whole life of the Church benefits from the mysterious and powerful help of angels.201 335 In her liturgy, the Church joins with the angels to adore the thrice-holy God. She invokes their assistance (in the funeral liturgy's In Paradisum deducant te angeli. . .["May the angels lead you into Paradise. . ."]). Moreover, in the "Cherubic Hymn" of the Byzantine Liturgy, she celebrates the memory of certain angels more particularly (St. Michael, St. Gabriel, St. Raphael, and the guardian angels). 336 From its beginning until death, human life is surrounded by their watchful care and intercession.202 "Beside each believer stands an angel as protector and shepherd leading him to life."203 Already here on earth the Christian life shares by faith in the blessed company of angels and men united in God. II. THE VISIBLE WORLD 337 God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day.204 On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation,205 permitting us to "recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God."206 338 Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.207 339 Each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." "By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws."208 Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment. 340 God wills the interdependence of creatures. The sun and the moon, the cedar and the little flower, the eagle and the sparrow: the spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self- sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other. 341 The beauty of the universe: The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will. 342 The hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures209 and takes care of each one, even the sparrow. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"210 343 Man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.211 344 There is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory: May you be praised, O Lord, in all your creatures, especially brother sun, by whom you give us light for the day; he is beautiful, radiating great splendor, and offering us a symbol of you, the Most High. . . May you be praised, my Lord, for sister water, who is very useful and humble, precious and chaste. . . May you be praised, my Lord, for sister earth, our mother, who bears and feeds us, and produces the variety of fruits and dappled flowers and grasses. . . Praise and bless my Lord, give thanks and serve him in all humility.212 345 The sabbath - the end of the work of the six days. The sacred text says that "on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done", that the "heavens and the earth were finished", and that God "rested" on this day and sanctified and blessed it.213 These inspired words are rich in profitable instruction: 346 In creation God laid a foundation and established laws that remain firm, on which the believer can rely with confidence, for they are the sign and pledge of the unshakeable faithfulness of God's covenant.214 For his part man must remain faithful to this foundation, and respect the laws which the Creator has written into it. 347 Creation was fashioned with a view to the sabbath and therefore for the worship and adoration of God. Worship is inscribed in the order of creation.215 As the rule of St. Benedict says, nothing should take precedence over "the work of God", that is, solemn worship.216 This indicates the right order of human concerns. 348 The sabbath is at the heart of Israel's law. To keep the commandments is to correspond to the wisdom and the will of God as expressed in his work of creation. 349 The eighth day. But for us a new day has dawned: the day of Christ's Resurrection. The seventh day completes the first creation. The eighth day begins the new creation. Thus, the work of creation culminates in the greater work of redemption. The first creation finds its meaning and its summit in the new creation in Christ, the splendor of which surpasses that of the first creation.217 IN BRIEF 350 Angels are spiritual creatures who glorify God without ceasing and who serve his saving plans for other creatures: "The angels work together for the benefit of us all" (St. Thomas Aquinas, STh I, 114, 3, ad 3). 351 The angels surround Christ their Lord. They serve him especially in the accomplishment of his saving mission to men. 352 The Church venerates the angels who help her on her earthly pilgrimage and protect every human being. 353 God willed the diversity of his creatures and their own particular goodness, their interdependence and their order. He destined all material creatures for the good of the human race. Man, and through him all creation, is destined for the glory of God. 354 Respect for laws inscribed in creation and the relations which derive from the nature of things is a principle of wisdom and a foundation for morality.
I didn't say that any entity not of this world was a reptilian demon. what I said was, IF these alleged space aliens roaming around who look repltilian are real, then they very well could be demons. aka devils. devils are simply fallen angels, who rebelled against God an were cast into hell. they are allowed some power and spend it tempting people and causing havoc in this world. to try to drag souls into hell. Here is a section from the Catechism on angels: (I will post a separate reply on demons (fallen angels). I think you missed my point. What I was trying to say was that creatures or entities which exist beyond our own world are by nature "extraterrestrial". You call can call these creatures whatever you wish, be it an angel, a demon, or an alien. They all are extraterrestrial. In terms of the latter, people have reported reptilian ones and little greys, sure, but there are ALSO reports of Nordic appearing blondes who are are ALSO extraterrestrial. Who's to say that at least SOME of those aliens aren't what primitive man called "angels" or even "gods"..
#63. To: FormerLurker (#61)
I think you missed my point. What I was trying to say was that creatures or entities which exist beyond our own world are by nature "extraterrestrial". You call can call these creatures whatever you wish, be it an angel, a demon, or an alien. They all are extraterrestrial. In terms of the latter, people have reported reptilian ones and little greys, sure, but there are ALSO reports of Nordic appearing blondes who are are ALSO extraterrestrial. Who's to say that at least SOME of those aliens aren't what primitive man called "angels" or even "gods".. sure, I suppose they could be angels (messengers) of God. they do exist. I know one fallen-away catholic who is obsessed on flowery 'angel books'. she likes to acknowledge that there is a 'spiritual realm' and all these entertaining and comforting angel books have taken the place of actual hard-truth religion for her. (many of these 'angels' authors appear on oprah and the talk show circuit, particularly years ago.) sad case.
to be clear I do believe in angels and have at least a few experiences where I believe my guardian angel literally helped me, perhaps saved my life or prevented me from serious injury. one time, this guy lured me into a situation and physical location in a parking lot where I suddenly found myself surrounded by three very shady thugs in what I determined later was an attempted robbery. I later felt very foolish for believing this guy's story for help, because I'm not usually the type to fall for b.s. I backed away from them and they didn't try anything, which was very strange, and opposite of why they would have lured me into the trap in the first place. I believe it was my angel(s) who prevented the attack.
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#5. To: Artisan (#3)
#7. To: Horse (#5)
#8. To: Lod, Artisan (#7)
#9. To: Horse (#8)
banning abortions.
#13. To: BTP Holdings, lod (#9)
#18. To: Artisan (#13)
I understand rape is a terrible crime but why sentence an innocent to death over it? abortion should not be legal, period.
#20. To: HOUNDDAWG (#18)
How long does a typical RU486/PG abortion take and how many steps does it involve?
#23. To: Artisan (#20)
#28. To: NeoconsNailed (#23)
Every time I ask some Catholic or funnymentalist parent whether they use birth control, they clam up. They're certainly not having kids like the Hasidim -- that would be a heroic level of self-restraint over decades!?!
#29. To: Artisan (#28)
#30. To: NeoconsNailed (#29)
Whom did GHWB successfully promote contraception to -- Africa?
You'd disagree with that in other words?
And you think white power people shouldn't complain about the invaders' prolificity, is that it?
#31. To: Artisan (#30)
#32. To: NeoconsNailed (#31)
So you're not going to agree with Bush about anything, even if he's right, and you think it's stupid to be alarmed by "immigrants" breeding like rabbits? Just trying to get the picture.
good Catholics have to be using lots of birth control :-)
#33. To: Artisan (#32)
Bush is not right . since he is a Satanist, he by definition can not be right.
#38. To: NeoconsNailed (#33)
98% of all-American Catholic wives are damning themselves to 500 years in purgatory by not using the rithm method :-3
#46. To: Artisan (#38)
the lie that satan and hell does not exist is the biggest lie people fall for. It is very sad.
#48. To: FormerLurker (#46)
Where is heaven, and where is hell?
#50. To: Artisan (#48)
#53. To: FormerLurker (#50)
I didn't really see any explanation for WHERE either heaven or hell are, did you?
Do you believe there are such things as extraterrestrials?
#54. To: Artisan (#53)
I believe that if they exist as some claim, they might just be demons. which is why they would appear reptilian (snake like,) but all in all, I'm not worried about it., & not very interested in the topic.
#58. To: FormerLurker (#54)
>>I believe that if they exist as some claim, they might just be demons. which is why they would appear reptilian (snake like,) but all in all, I'm not worried about it., & not very interested in the topic.
#61. To: Artisan (#58)
that is a ridiculous question, although I maybe I should assume that you aren't familiar with the basic structure of Christian teaching, which I find very difficult (impossible) to believe.
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#64. To: FormerLurker (#61)
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