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Title: Trump Responds to "Tough, Nasty" Question About "Zionist Israel" During Town Hall Q & A
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Post Date: 2016-07-04 04:52:51 by Artisan
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On Thursday, June 30, 2016 at a campaign event in Manchester, New Hampshire, a man at the town hall told Donald Trump he's "opposed to wasting our military in the Middle East on behalf of Zionist Israel." Trump replied "Israel is a very, very important ally of the United States and we are going to protect them 100%. 100%. It's our true friend over there." Later, Trump added "That was a tough question on Israel. That was nasty. Whoa." The man who asked about "Zionist Israel" also said"I'm opposed to the murder of unborn babies being legal," to which Trump replied "We are with you." Watch the video here:
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#3. To: All, lod, horse (#0)
what was "nasty" about the polite old guy's question?
I agree with the old guy on the 2nd question but not the first.
Do you support our giving away our blood and money to and for the zionists?
His first question was abortion. I disagreed with him on banning abortions. His second statement was on supporting Israel. He was opposed to wars for Israel as am I.
That has always been a touchy subject. A total ban on abortions would be too harsh since there are times when a woman cannot be expected to bear a child. If there are congenital problems or the pregnancy is from a rape, abortion should be considered. But then I went to High School with a kid. He got his girlfriend pregnant and they had to drop out. ;)
That has always been a touchy subject. A total ban on abortions would be too harsh since there are times when a woman cannot be expected to bear a child. If there are congenital problems or the pregnancy is from a rape, abortion should be considered. I understand rape is a terrible crime but why sentence an innocent to death over it? abortion should not be legal, period. any mind-twisting or attempted justification for infanticide is straight from hell. it really is as simple as that. :-)
any mind-twisting or attempted justification for infanticide is straight from hell. it really is as simple as that. :-) Would you oppose giving rape victims a morning after pill to prevent conception before the swimmer even makes it to home base?
Would you oppose giving rape victims a morning after pill to prevent conception before the swimmer even makes it to home base? I agree that is a specific distinction, since conception has not occurred, supposedly, but even that is not cut and dried. (see below.) The short answer is yes, I oppose RU486. Because catholics are not against 'contraception' depending on whether or not conception has occurred, they are against contraception because it is inserting human will and interest in place of God's. I should note that I am referring to the actual catholic teaching, not what a large majority of cafeteria catholics spout or practice. Natural family planning which involves abstinence at times is actually accepted and taught by parishes worldwide. imagine that! having to abstain periodically instead of using a rubber or death pills! :-) An RU486/PG induced abortion can take days, weeks, or never happen at all. It typically involves three (or more) visits to the doctor's office over a two week period. In her first visit, a woman is "counseled," given a physical examination, perhaps an ultrasound, and if there are no obvious contraindications (common red flags such as high blood pressure, diabetes, heavy smoking, allergies, etc. that could make taking the drug deadly or dangerous for her), she is given the RU486 pills, which she takes in the presence of the abortionist. Two days later, during a second visit to the doctor's office, she is given the prostaglandin, which she takes orally or has inserted vaginally. Gradually, as the drug begins to take effect, she experiences powerful, painful uterine contractions which begin to work to expel the baby. In U.S. trials, about half (49%) aborted during the four hours they spent waiting in the doctor's office following the administration of the prostaglandin. An additional 26 % aborted sometime over the next 20 hours, on the bus ride home, at work, in the shower, etc. The rest who aborted did so at some point during the following two weeks. Between 8% and 23% (depending on how many weeks pregnant the mother was) never completely aborted or didn't abort at all using the drugs. A third visit some 14 days from the woman's initial visit allows the doctor to confirm whether or not the abortion has been completed. If it hasn't, the abortionist will encourage the woman to undergo a surgical abortion to guard against the possibility that she will give birth to a child who may have been injured by the drugs. RU 486 abortion pill unsafe despite media reports http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/ru_486_abortion_pill_uns afe_despite_media_reports/ Washington D.C., Aug 17, 2007 / 09:40 am (CNA).- A recent study appearing in the August 16 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine reports that the abortion drug RU486 is as safe as having a surgical abortion. However, the study is being spun in favor of the abortion industry by the mainstream media. The study has concluded that the risk to future pregnancies after a RU486 abortion versus a surgical abortion is equal. Journalists have interpreted the finding to mean that the abortion drug is safe, when in fact, neither is ever safe. It is a leap in logic to say that both methods are safe, says Operation Rescue Senior Policy Advisor Cheryl Sullenger. "Women are dying at an alarming rate from RU486 abortions and its widespread misuse in the abortion industry,” she told LifeSiteNews.com. "Women who have had abortions have greater risks of miscarriage and infertility than women who have not had abortions,” she added. Sullenger noted that the study did not compare women who had RU486 abortions with women who did not have any abortions. “It is no accident that the study refused to compare these two groups of women, because we know they would have found that abortion hurts women, and that is obviously a conclusion that they did not want to reach," Sullenger was quoted as saying. RU486 is a drug approved for aborting children who are at six weeks or less in their development. Three office visits are usually required for this kind of abortion. Some reports indicate that RU486 has a 15% failure rate, and that many women who receive the drug must also have a surgical abortion to completely remove the pre-born baby and other pregnancy tissue. "Hiding the possibility of RU486's life-threatening dangers from women really shows that there is more concern [among the media] for selling abortions than for protecting and informing women,” Sullenger continued. “This misinformation campaign is really a horrific thing when you think about it that could needlessly cost women's lives."
Every time I ask some Catholic or funnymentalist parent whether they use birth control, they clam up. They're certainly not having kids like the Hasidim -- that would be a heroic level of self-restraint over decades!?!
well it certainly is an interesting topic. widespread birth control has been promoted by the likes of ghoul bush senior and his ilk for years. the power that be have been very successful, resulting in a plummeting birth rate. so I think its kind of funny when white power folks whine that the Mexicans are out- birthing them. also I believe that fertility rates in general have dropped substantially for a number of reasons, so this contributes to it.
Whom did GHWB successfully promote contraception to -- Africa? You'd disagree with that in other words? www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation- world/world/article24566695.html And you think white power people shouldn't complain about the invaders' prolificity, is that it? Rivero keeps saying they're having less kids and blaming it on GMO corn -- you know the Mexicanos and their tortillas. Every cloud has a silver lining :-]
To the entire world. George H.W. Bush: Evil Population Control Ghoul - Rubbers Goes to Congress Yes,. Bush is a freemason, a Satanist and arch criminal. I don't agree with him or the likes of him on anything. Also: The people who complain about whites not having kids should realize that that is by their own stupid choice. birth control, abortion and selfishness. it is pathetic.
So you're not going to agree with Bush about anything, even if he's right, and you think it's stupid to be alarmed by "immigrants" breeding like rabbits? Just trying to get the picture. Nobody's commenting on my thesis that by all powers of deduction, good Catholics have to be using lots of birth control :-)
Bush is not right . since he is a Satanist, he by definition can not be right. and no, abortion and population control is not right and has never been, with conservatives. a Catholic who uses artificial birth control is being selfish, hedonistic, and is playing God,. they are committing a mortal sin. That is not good.
Oh, God -- not that. Not you! This is like when W started his genocide. Merely because he was Republican, half the otherwise intelligent people I knew fanatically supported it regardless of previous sanity levels. More than one told me "WE CAN'T AGREE WITH THE DEMOCRATS ABOUT ANYTHING" even if it means a million dead Iraqis and thousands of "body bags". A stopt clock is right twice a day -- nobody can lie about literally everything?!?! 98% of all-American Catholic wives are damning themselves to 500 years in purgatory by not using the rithm method :-3 https://www.guttmacher.org/article/2012/02/guttmacher-statistic-catholic- womens-contraceptive-use (I'm your 2-legged mosquito, huh, Art :-)
just to clarify bud, you cant damn yourself to purgatory. the souls in purgatory are not damned. if you make it to purgatory, yes you have to make reparation there, )hence why Jesus says to "pray for the dead.") but if one makes it to purgatory, they are not damned. they are far from damned. they have made it to heaven. some saints have described purgatory as a hell with a hope. whereas if someone dies in the state of mortal sin, there is no hope. its over. people condemned to hell have no hope. now these days many people do not believe that satan exists or that there is a hell. "why, how could a loving benevolent God send souls to hell!?" they cry. Yes God is a loving God but He is a just God too. the lie that satan and hell does not exist is the biggest lie people fall for. It is very sad.
Where is heaven, and where is hell?
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church: http: //www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a12.htm I. THE PARTICULAR JUDGMENT 1021 Death puts an end to human life as the time open to either accepting or rejecting the divine grace manifested in Christ.592 The New Testament speaks of judgment primarily in its aspect of the final encounter with Christ in his second coming, but also repeatedly affirms that each will be rewarded immediately after death in accordance with his works and faith. The parable of the poor man Lazarus and the words of Christ on the cross to the good thief, as well as other New Testament texts speak of a final destiny of the soul--a destiny which can be different for some and for others.593 1022 Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification594 or immediately,595 -- or immediate and everlasting damnation.596 At the evening of life, we shall be judged on our love.597 II. HEAVEN 1023 Those who die in God's grace and friendship and are perfectly purified live for ever with Christ. They are like God for ever, for they "see him as he is," face to face:598 By virtue of our apostolic authority, we define the following: According to the general disposition of God, the souls of all the saints . . . and other faithful who died after receiving Christ's holy Baptism (provided they were not in need of purification when they died, . . . or, if they then did need or will need some purification, when they have been purified after death, . . .) already before they take up their bodies again and before the general judgment - and this since the Ascension of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ into heaven - have been, are and will be in heaven, in the heavenly Kingdom and celestial paradise with Christ, joined to the company of the holy angels. Since the Passion and death of our Lord Jesus Christ, these souls have seen and do see the divine essence with an intuitive vision, and even face to face, without the mediation of any creature.599 1024 This perfect life with the Most Holy Trinity - this communion of life and love with the Trinity, with the Virgin Mary, the angels and all the blessed - is called "heaven." Heaven is the ultimate end and fulfillment of the deepest human longings, the state of supreme, definitive happiness. 1025 To live in heaven is "to be with Christ." The elect live "in Christ,"600 but they retain, or rather find, their true identity, their own name.601 For life is to be with Christ; where Christ is, there is life, there is the kingdom.602 1026 By his death and Resurrection, Jesus Christ has "opened" heaven to us. The life of the blessed consists in the full and perfect possession of the fruits of the redemption accomplished by Christ. He makes partners in his heavenly glorification those who have believed in him and remained faithful to his will. Heaven is the blessed community of all who are perfectly incorporated into Christ. 1027 This mystery of blessed communion with God and all who are in Christ is beyond all understanding and description. Scripture speaks of it in images: life, light, peace, wedding feast, wine of the kingdom, the Father's house, the heavenly Jerusalem, paradise: "no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man conceived, what God has prepared for those who love him."603 1028 Because of his transcendence, God cannot be seen as he is, unless he himself opens up his mystery to man's immediate contemplation and gives him the capacity for it. The Church calls this contemplation of God in his heavenly glory "the beatific vision": How great will your glory and happiness be, to be allowed to see God, to be honored with sharing the joy of salvation and eternal light with Christ your Lord and God, . . . to delight in the joy of immortality in the Kingdom of heaven with the righteous and God's friends.604 1029 In the glory of heaven the blessed continue joyfully to fulfill God's will in relation to other men and to all creation. Already they reign with Christ; with him "they shall reign for ever and ever."605 III. THE FINAL PURIFICATION, OR PURGATORY 1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven. 1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607 As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.608 1032 This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin."609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.610 The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead: Let us help and commemorate them. If Job's sons were purified by their father's sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.611 IV. HELL 1033 We cannot be united with God unless we freely choose to love him. But we cannot love God if we sin gravely against him, against our neighbor or against ourselves: "He who does not love remains in death. Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him."612 Our Lord warns us that we shall be separated from him if we fail to meet the serious needs of the poor and the little ones who are his brethren.613 To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called "hell." 1034 Jesus often speaks of "Gehenna" of "the unquenchable fire" reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost.614 Jesus solemnly proclaims that he "will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,"615 and that he will pronounce the condemnation: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!"616 1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."617 The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs. 1036 The affirmations of Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Church on the subject of hell are a call to the responsibility incumbent upon man to make use of his freedom in view of his eternal destiny. They are at the same time an urgent call to conversion: "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few."618 Since we know neither the day nor the hour, we should follow the advice of the Lord and watch constantly so that, when the single course of our earthly life is completed, we may merit to enter with him into the marriage feast and be numbered among the blessed, and not, like the wicked and slothful servants, be ordered to depart into the eternal fire, into the outer darkness where "men will weep and gnash their teeth."619 1037 God predestines no one to go to hell;620 for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want "any to perish, but all to come to repentance":621 Father, accept this offering from your whole family. Grant us your peace in this life, save us from final damnation, and count us among those you have chosen.622 V. THE LAST JUDGMENT 1038 The resurrection of all the dead, "of both the just and the unjust,"623 will precede the Last Judgment. This will be "the hour when all who are in the tombs will hear [the Son of man's] voice and come forth, those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment."624 Then Christ will come "in his glory, and all the angels with him. . . . Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. . . . And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."625 1039 In the presence of Christ, who is Truth itself, the truth of each man's relationship with God will be laid bare.626 The Last Judgment will reveal even to its furthest consequences the good each person has done or failed to do during his earthly life: All that the wicked do is recorded, and they do not know. When "our God comes, he does not keep silence.". . . he will turn towards those at his left hand: . . . "I placed my poor little ones on earth for you. I as their head was seated in heaven at the right hand of my Father - but on earth my members were suffering, my members on earth were in need. If you gave anything to my members, what you gave would reach their Head. Would that you had known that my little ones were in need when I placed them on earth for you and appointed them your stewards to bring your good works into my treasury. But you have placed nothing in their hands; therefore you have found nothing in my presence."627 1040 The Last Judgment will come when Christ returns in glory. Only the Father knows the day and the hour; only he determines the moment of its coming. Then through his Son Jesus Christ he will pronounce the final word on all history. We shall know the ultimate meaning of the whole work of creation and of the entire economy of salvation and understand the marvelous ways by which his Providence led everything towards its final end. The Last Judgment will reveal that God's justice triumphs over all the injustices committed by his creatures and that God's love is stronger than death.628 1041 The message of the Last Judgment calls men to conversion while God is still giving them "the acceptable time, . . . the day of salvation."629 It inspires a holy fear of God and commits them to the justice of the Kingdom of God. It proclaims the "blessed hope" of the Lord's return, when he will come "to be glorified in his saints, and to be marveled at in all who have believed."630
I didn't really see any explanation for WHERE either heaven or hell are, did you? If I were to guess, they would be in some other realm beyond our universe, right? That would make those places extraterrestrial obviously. Do you believe there are such things as extraterrestrials? Myself, I DO believe in extraterrestrials within and beyond our physical universe. However, do you really think that which exists beyond our universe would be the realm of the same jealous, vindictive, angry "God" as described in the Old Testament? I think there are forces, realms, and beings we simply can not understand or fathom. Primitive peoples came up with various mythologies to explain things they couldn't otherwise understand, and described them in human terms. Examples are that the early church taught that the universe revolved around the earth, and that it was flat. They didn't quite know what the stars were, but felt strongly that's where heaven was. For all we truly know, hell could be here on earth, it could be purgatory, or it could even be heaven for some people. Or it could be something else entirely.
No, the church doesn't get into that in the catechism. although there have been some apparitions by various saints which describe hell (note- even if they are approved by the church, Catholics are not 'required' to believe in such apparitions. it is not a doctrine of the church.) But anyway- supposedly hell is in the center of the earth. heaven would be yes, in a different sphere. I believe that if they exist as some claim, they might just be demons. which is why they would appear reptilian (snake like,) but all in all, I'm not worried about it., & not very interested in the topic. I've heard many people scoff as you have at the notion of how an angry and vindictive 'God' could at the same time be loving and forgiving, yet send people to hell to suffer for all eternity? as the church teaches, people basically choose hell by sticking with their sinful ways. they have a choice. God gave us free will. there are consequences to our actions and lives. That is why I view this life as a grand test. serious stuff. the spiritual battle in the world is between God and satan; it is a battle literally for souls.
And what about angels, are they really just demons too? In fact, since God doesn't live here on Earth, is he also a demon?
also, if you notivce, whenever you or anyone else asks me aa question about my religion, I don't 'theorize' or talk out of my ass or make up some argument, or argue on the internet. I am not an expert, nor do I pretend to be. I have an authority to refer to. the church is that authority, established over 2000 years ago. I do not need to go to protestant pastor bob' on any corner, USA, who got his (non) credentials out of a cracker jack box and who makes up various theories on thousands of issues as he goes along. People can go to prominent libertarian Tom Woods for much more on all this. he has a great series (which is actually from his book titled HOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BUILT WESTERN CIVILIZATION
Went to Catholic school ran by nuns up through 7th grade and went to church every weekend, so I know a bit about Catholic teachings. However, at a young age I opened my mind to things beyond what the church taught.
However, at a young age I opened my mind to things beyond what the church taught. I would consider questioning in great detail, the sources of material that you read and watched when you 'opened your mind', which led you to reject your faith. I can guarantee that they are/were not good sources. They have a mission for you, and for the world, and its not a good one,... and you were one of the victims of their propaganda. But there is still time to return. I do not say this to be condescending.
What it comes down to is that I don't believe in religion, instead I believe in God, one which exist yet is beyond the understanding of humans, and most certainly did not have his "chosen people" commit the many horrific deeds described in a book claimed to have been written by him.
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#5. To: Artisan (#3)
#7. To: Horse (#5)
#8. To: Lod, Artisan (#7)
#9. To: Horse (#8)
banning abortions.
#13. To: BTP Holdings, lod (#9)
#18. To: Artisan (#13)
I understand rape is a terrible crime but why sentence an innocent to death over it? abortion should not be legal, period.
#20. To: HOUNDDAWG (#18)
How long does a typical RU486/PG abortion take and how many steps does it involve?
#23. To: Artisan (#20)
#28. To: NeoconsNailed (#23)
Every time I ask some Catholic or funnymentalist parent whether they use birth control, they clam up. They're certainly not having kids like the Hasidim -- that would be a heroic level of self-restraint over decades!?!
#29. To: Artisan (#28)
#30. To: NeoconsNailed (#29)
Whom did GHWB successfully promote contraception to -- Africa?
You'd disagree with that in other words?
And you think white power people shouldn't complain about the invaders' prolificity, is that it?
#31. To: Artisan (#30)
#32. To: NeoconsNailed (#31)
So you're not going to agree with Bush about anything, even if he's right, and you think it's stupid to be alarmed by "immigrants" breeding like rabbits? Just trying to get the picture.
good Catholics have to be using lots of birth control :-)
#33. To: Artisan (#32)
Bush is not right . since he is a Satanist, he by definition can not be right.
#38. To: NeoconsNailed (#33)
98% of all-American Catholic wives are damning themselves to 500 years in purgatory by not using the rithm method :-3
#46. To: Artisan (#38)
the lie that satan and hell does not exist is the biggest lie people fall for. It is very sad.
#48. To: FormerLurker (#46)
Where is heaven, and where is hell?
#50. To: Artisan (#48)
#53. To: FormerLurker (#50)
I didn't really see any explanation for WHERE either heaven or hell are, did you?
Do you believe there are such things as extraterrestrials?
#54. To: Artisan (#53)
I believe that if they exist as some claim, they might just be demons. which is why they would appear reptilian (snake like,) but all in all, I'm not worried about it., & not very interested in the topic.
#60. To: FormerLurker (#54)
#62. To: Artisan (#60)
#65. To: FormerLurker (#62)
Went to Catholic school ran by nuns up through 7th grade and went to church every weekend, so I know a bit about Catholic teachings.
#67. To: Artisan (#65)
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