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Title: Take a look at the pic of Whittington - black eye?
Source: Mehitable
URL Source: http://Mehitable
Published: Feb 17, 2006
Author: Mehitable Storm
Post Date: 2006-02-17 16:42:27 by mehitable
Keywords: Whittington, black, Take
Views: 755
Comments: 42

I don't know how to post a pic but there are pics of this sad old bastard all over the web, such as Drudge. Right side of his face is all yellow and it looks like he's recovering from a black eye. Now, you hunters out there: would a load of birdshot do this to someone? What would do this? Or is this guy recovering from a black eye like someone beat the crap out of him?

What do you think?

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#1. To: All (#0)

Can someone link a pic, by the way? Thanks.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-17   16:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mehitable (#0)

My guess is Cheney had a muscle spasm while Whittington was kissing his ass.

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-17   16:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Dakmar (#2)

ROFLMAO!!!!!! Wonder if he broke his nose too!

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-17   16:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mehitable (#0)

I think he got shot from a range closer than 30 yards. Check out this video:

Here

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-02-17   16:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mehitable (#0)

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   16:47:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

Check out the pic I just posted.. that man got hit no doubt at a much closer range.. look at the bruising!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   16:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#6)

Zip, can you get the 3/4 profile from Huffington Post? It shows the eye more clearly than this side view. Something really bad happened to this guy.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-17   16:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

Dude is lucky they didn't bury him, he looks like he just emerged from a crypt.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-17   16:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

Absolutely. From seeing these pics I wouldn't be surprised if Dick beat him with the rifle butt.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-17   16:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mehitable (#7)

what's funny this file is called Cheney victim~ LOL

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   16:56:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah (#10)

Well, ya know...now that I'm looking at him again...he DOES look kind of bird like....

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-17   17:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mehitable (#9)

FReeper queen Howlin blames Whittington

To: dirtboy

Whittington was at fault here based on all I've heard; he left the line to pick up his birds and put them in the truck -- and then reapproached the line WITH THE SUN TO HIS BACK, to Cheney's left WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY HE WAS BACK.

256 posted on 02/14/2006 9:31:32 PM PST by Howlin ("QUICK HE'S BLEEDING. CALL THE WASH POST!") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 246 | View Replies ]

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-02-17   17:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mehitable (#11)

Well, ya know...now that I'm looking at him again...he DOES look kind of bird like....

LOL! yeah yer right :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   17:07:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull, Homey (#12)

FReeper queen Howlin blames Whittington

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   17:09:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mehitable (#0)

These injuries are indeed consistent with getting hit with birdshot, and... a heart attack.

When you have a heart attack, it puts so much pressure on your veins and capillaries that they distend, and burst, causing bruising under the eyes and such.

You can get black eyes from having a difficult time on the toilet. Women who go through child birth are known to have them, broken blood vessels aren't uncommon at all, especially when this guy got shot in the face from less than 30 feet. You can see the spacing of the birdshot. He was shot LESS THAN 30 Feet away.

It takes a lot of power to break the skin when the projectiles are just pellets. The other thing is, that when a pellet hits, it doesn't just make a little hole, the skin stretches and causes compound bruising. Try poking a hole in your waterbed with the round end of a plunger and you'll have a fair representation of a pellet hitting the skin hard enough to break it.

The injuries are consistent. PERIOD.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-02-17   17:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

DAMN, JT - get it straight - Whittingon pulled the trigger his own damn self!!!

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-17   17:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

Actually, I've been hunting and been in similar situations where the sun is in your face, and when people walk up to you, you barely see them. This is a fairly plausible explanation.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-02-17   17:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#15)

Yup, WHittington is lucky to be alive. I hope the next time Cheney goes hunting, he uses grenades.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-17   17:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#17)

Would you actually fire a gun if the sun was in your face?

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-17   17:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#15)

You can get black eyes from having a difficult time on the toilet.

Goodness, no shit?

People - some ruffage in the diet is not illegal.

That said, Harry did have a rough day of it...how many years before we learn the truth of the matter?

Lod  posted on  2006-02-17   17:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lodwick (#20)

Goodness, no s**t?

People - some ruffage in the diet is not illegal.

That said, Harry did have a rough day of it...how many years before we learn the truth of the matter?

That probably was the problem.. no s**t.. :P Well this is news to me too.. nothing I've ever experienced..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   17:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lodwick (#20)

...how many years before we learn the truth of the matter?

I'm not kidding here, I have a gut feeling that if we ever find the truth of this matter, one of the facts will be that whittington was shot with both barrels inside of 20 feet.

Laugh now, I'll wait for a more plausible explaination than the one we have been given.

“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795

Hmmmmm  posted on  2006-02-17   17:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Zipporah (#14)

DYING!!!!!! WE NEED THIS ON THE HOME PAGE OF PL WITH HER STATEMENT!!!!!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-02-17   17:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#17)

Is that tight a group possible from 30 yards, Tommy?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-02-17   17:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#15)

These injuries are indeed consistent with getting hit with birdshot, and... a heart attack.

When you have a heart attack, it puts so much pressure on your veins and capillaries that they distend, and burst, causing bruising under the eyes and such.

You can get black eyes from having a difficult time on the toilet. Women who go through child birth are known to have them, broken blood vessels aren't uncommon at all, especially when this guy got shot in the face from less than 30 feet. You can see the spacing of the birdshot. He was shot LESS THAN 30 Feet away.

It takes a lot of power to break the skin when the projectiles are just pellets. The other thing is, that when a pellet hits, it doesn't just make a little hole, the skin stretches and causes compound bruising. Try poking a hole in your waterbed with the round end of a plunger and you'll have a fair representation of a pellet hitting the skin hard enough to break it.

The injuries are consistent. PERIOD.

Agreed. I have seen at least 2 of my goofy family members come back pepperd from bird shot on a number of occasions. I would say his injuries are consistant as well. Guy is lucky he didn't lose an eye.

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2006-02-17   18:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#25)

hey, kel, good to see you!

christine  posted on  2006-02-17   19:36:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#25)

Getting peppered with birdshot was a regular thing with yall? That just doesn't sound right.

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-02-17   20:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

DYING!!!!!! WE NEED THIS ON THE HOME PAGE OF PL WITH HER STATEMENT!!!!!!

Hey ask Homey.. hilarious isnt it??

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   20:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#24)

Not 30 yards. 30 feet maybe, but not 30 yards.

I remember shooting a 28 guage shotgun once at a paper target at 50 feet. I can tell you definitively, the spacing was a lot farther apart than what that guy Whittington has all over his face.

I'm willing to bet, probably about 50 feet or less, from a Benelli Shotgun, with a good choke on it, would do about the same thing. If it was a Benelli Shotgun, you could probably have that tight of a group at 30 yards, but it would really depend on the load whether or not it would break the skin like Whittington here.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-02-17   20:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Zipporah (#13)

Actually, he looks like the baby vulture from the old Warner Brothers Cartoons.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-02-17   21:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#30)

Actually, he looks like the baby vulture from the old Warner Brothers Cartoons.

He DOES!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   21:46:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Zipporah (#5)

Not only is he lucky to be alive, he's lucky he didn't lose an eye...or did he?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-02-17   21:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Fred Mertz (#32)

Not only is he lucky to be alive, he's lucky he didn't lose an eye...or did he?

I thought of what you said when Whittington gave his apology for being shot..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   21:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Zipporah (#33)

Based on the afternoon news coverage all I can say is that Josef Goebbels would be proud.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-02-17   22:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Fred Mertz (#34)

Based on the afternoon news coverage all I can say is that Josef Goebbels would be proud.

LOL!.. too true.. they think this is going to die soon?? I dont think so..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   22:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Zipporah (#35)

I think it's already dead, Zip. The Texas authorities did NO investigation and will NOT do any investigation and the victim is apologizing for being shot. I know there are a lot of people who don't think this is an important story compared to others that are coming out almost daily but I think this is an incredibly important story. What this means is that the vice president of the United States can actually shoot and nearly kill an elderly man, with NO RAMIFICATIONS OR INVESTIGATION AT ALL. Nor any media scrutiny into the OBVIOUS physical and testimonial discrepancies and errors.

Now what kind of society does that kind of thing happen in? Not a healthy democracy, surely.

mehitable  posted on  2006-02-17   22:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mehitable (#36)

I think it's already dead, Zip. The Texas authorities did NO investigation and will NOT do any investigation and the victim is apologizing for being shot. I know there are a lot of people who don't think this is an important story compared to others that are coming out almost daily but I think this is an incredibly important story. What this means is that the vice president of the United States can actually shoot and nearly kill an elderly man, with NO RAMIFICATIONS OR INVESTIGATION AT ALL. Nor any media scrutiny into the OBVIOUS physical and testimonial discrepancies and errors.

Now what kind of society does that kind of thing happen in? Not a healthy democracy, surely.

I didnt see the press conference today. Something odd I was reading, Whittington said it happened last FRIDAY rather than Saturday.. he may have misspoken.. Today on Imus Mary Matelin was trying to make out this was totally handled properly.. Imus kept saying over and over how horribly it was handled..she wouldnt back down though.. it got fairly heated. I can't stand Imus but it was interesting to watch.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-17   22:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Zipporah (#37)

As far as the sheeple are concerned, Zipporah, it's over.

As I said above, Josef Goebbels would be proud.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-02-17   22:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull (#24)

  This guy was shot at around 15ft. The story is a lie.

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-02-18   7:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Dakmar (#27)

Getting peppered with birdshot was a regular thing with yall? That just doesn't sound right.

Among my kin? unfortunately yes.

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2006-02-18   7:50:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Kamala (#39)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun

There is an interesting table on that page as well regarding the percentage of shot in a 30 in circle at 40 yd. Don't know much about the website itself.

Pattern and choke Shot, small and round and delivered without spin, is ballistically inefficient. As the shot leaves the barrel it begins to disperse in the air. The resulting cloud of pellets is known as the shot pattern. The ideal pattern would be a circle with an even distribution of shot throughout, with a density sufficient to ensure enough pellets will intersect the target to achieve the desired result, such as a kill when hunting or a break when shooting clay targets. In reality the pattern is closer to a Gaussian, or normal distribution, with a higher density in the center that tapers off at the edges. Patterns are usually measured by firing at a 30 inch (76 cm) diameter circle on a larger sheet of paper placed at varying distances. The hits outside the circle are counted, and compared to the total number of pellets, and the density of the pattern inside the circle is examined. An "ideal" pattern would put nearly 100% of the pellets in the circle, and would have no voids--any region where a target silhouette will fit and not cover 3 or more holes is considered a potential problem.

A constriction in the end of the barrel known as the choke is used to tailor the pattern for different purposes. Chokes may either be formed as part of the barrel at the time of manufacture, by squeezing the end of the bore down over a mandrel, or by threading the barrel and screwing in an interchangeable choke tube. The choke typically consists of a conical section that smoothly tapers from the bore diameter down to the choke diameter, followed by a cylindrical section of the choke diameter. Briley Manufacturing, a top maker of interchangeable shotgun chokes, uses a conical portion about 3 times the bore diameter in length, so the shot is gradually squeezed down with minimal deformation. The cylindrical section is shorter, usually 0.6 to 0.75 inches (15 to 19 mm). There is no good mathematical model that describes how chokes work, making the design and manufacture for chokes more art than science. The use of interchangeable chokes has made it easy to tune the performance of a given combination of shotgun and shotshell to achieve the desired performance.

The choke should be tailored to the range and size of the targets. A skeet shooter, shooting at close targets might use 0.005 inches (127 micrometres) of constriction to produce a 30 inch (762 mm) diameter pattern at a distance of 21 yards (19 m). A trap shooter, shooting at distant targets might use 0.030 inches (762 micrometres) of constriction to produce a 30 inch (762 mm) diameter pattern at 40 yards (37 m). Special chokes for turkey hunting, which requires long range shots at the small head and neck of the bird, can go as high as 0.060 inches (1520 micrometres). The use of too much choke and a small pattern increases the difficulty of hitting the target, the use of too little choke produces large patterns with insufficient pellet density to reliably break targets or kill game. "Cylinder barrels" have no constriction. See also: Slug barrel

Other specialized choke tubes exist as well. Some turkey hunting tubes have constrictions greater than "Super Full", or additional features like porting to reduce recoil, or "straight rifling" that is designed to stop any spin that the shot column might acquire when traveling down the barrel These tubes are often extended tubes, meaning they project beyond the end of the bore, giving more room for things like a longer conical section. Shot spreaders or diffusion chokes work opposite of normal chokes--they are designed to spread the shot more than a cylinder bore, generating wider patterns for very short range use. A number of recent spreader chokes, such as the Briley "Diffusion" line, actually use rifling in the choke to spin the shot slightly, creating a wider spread. The Briley Diffusion uses a 1 in 14 inch twist, as does the FABARM Lion Paradox shotgun. Oval chokes, often called "duckbill spreaders", are designed to provide a shot pattern wider than it is tall, are sometimes found on combat shotguns, primarly those of the Vietnam War era. Offset chokes, where the choke is intentionally made slightly off of center, are also made, and are used to change the point of impact; for instance, an offset choke can be used to make a double barrelled shotgun with poorly aligned barrels hit the same spot with both barrels.

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2006-02-18   8:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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