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Title: Spare Me The Maudlin Theatrics, Please
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Published: Jul 9, 2016
Author: Jack Perry
Post Date: 2016-07-09 18:45:10 by Ada
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Comments: 31
So, what do you want me to say about this, then? Another “mass shooting event” and this time, it was the police targeted. Now, my first question is: Will the media be true to truth and call this a “hate crime” or will this be gussied up in some apologetic poppycock engineered to absolve the reality from being held accountable? Offhand, I think we’re going to miss a major point here in the rush to find fig leafs to cover up the truth and inanimate objects to assign blame to. I think we’re going to miss WHO trained the killer: The government. Yes, this man was a combat veteran. Therefore, as to who trained this guy to kill, that would be the government. As I have said here so many times my odometer has clicked over, you cannot teach violence as a solution to any problem and then expect this won’t one-day re-appear on your own doorstep. It would appear our government trained the wrong guy. Or, rather, he went and killed people the government didn’t order him to. Again, when you justify the killing of other people based on the “They Are Not Us” philosophy, that is exactly the belief system people will take home and manifest into your society later. See, the only justifiable reason for killing another human being is immediate self-defense. Not “pre-emptive” hogwash or “regime change” or “liberating” people. Because when you say that killing people is getting people to do things you tell them to do by other means, then you should not be at all surprised when this blows up in your face. Literally. Oh, sure, let’s blame the firearm. Why not? Because that’s easier than saying the government is teaching violence and even its own police agencies are not safe. It’s own military isn’t safe, either, as mass shooting events on U.S. military bases have shown. I’m going to go way out on the limb of controversy here. If the government holds fast to the idea that war is diplomacy by other means, guess what? Some of these mass murderers are saying that mass murder is social change by other means. This one evidently was saying that. So was the dude in Orlando. Now, I am not excusing this violence. Far from it. Violence is wrong no matter who does it. Those cops were innocent people, killed because they were cops and because of their skin color also. But we cannot condemn violence when it manifests amongst us and then excuse it when the government does it to other people we don’t know or see overseas. If we are to be true to a morality worth calling one, we will condemn all violence. We won’t wave the flag and cheer on the slaughter of people because they’re led by some dude we don’t like. We also won’t celebrate that slaughter like we did here four days ago with Fourth of July. One more time, this mass murderer was taught his skills by the United States government. Now we can see what has been done overseas in places like Afghanistan, isn’t that correct? Oh, but now we’re sad and angry? How so, America? Were you sad and angry when a bunch of U.S. military members got away with destroying a hospital in Afghanistan and killing a bunch of innocent people? And if they were actually prosecuted, all the Blood-Shine Patriots would have come crawling out from under rocks to scream about “patriotic troops being jailed for doing their jobs”. Doing their jobs. Indeed. Like this dude was trained to do? Right, here we go again. More candle-light vigils. More prayers to some vague deity no one can name anymore because they don’t even know who this deity is. Or if there is one. But they’ll pray anyway because it looks pious on TV, am I right? Plus, the candles look cooler with tears and heads bowed. Excuse me, but where are the candle-light vigils for the millions of people this government has slaughtered over some blip on the foreign policy radar? Millions of people dead and they act like those lives were just a blip on the radar. And we’re so dang proud of it, we make movies glorifying it. But let us lose more than three and we act like we’ve just suffered a gross inhumanity. Yeah, well, maybe we should start valuing all human lives. Not just our own or those of our own little enclaves of asinine and laughable social groups. Yes, they’ll say this guy doesn’t represent all (insert group here), am I right? But we don’t apply that same rule to others in other countries. If we have to kill a hundred innocent people to nail one “bad guy” in Yemen, then so be it. Wave the flag, cheer, light fireworks, grill hot dogs, have nifty furniture sales and buy lots of crap at the mall because it’s also on sale. Then when violence happens here, we act like we don’t know how this could possibly happen to us. Why it’s not fair! Spare me the maudlin theatrics. You sit there and watch movies where violence is celebrated, especially the violence the United States government wreaks across the globe. Gosh, American Sniper, you weren’t supposed to do that here! Do it over there, where you’re supposed to! Right, candles, I’ll put them on the shopping list. But I wonder when we will finally see that you cannot teach this violence to an entire country and not expect violence. If you plant poison ivy in the yard, what, you don’t expect a bad rash? Having this government is like having a Water Moccasin in the yard, under the porch. Sooner or later, it bites the people in whose yard it lives. Tired of the violence? Then stop teaching it and celebrating it.
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#1. To: Ada (#0)
Great! thanks.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Complete and utter BullBush. He was a freaking laborer with an engineer battalion based at a Air Force base. He was never in combat and most likely didn't even carry a gun the whole time he was there. Or even see one up close. I personally knew people who spend a year or more in VN during the VN war that never once picked up a gun,or even have access to one because all the guns and ammunition remained locked up in the arms room the whole time they were there. I know this to be a fact because *I* had the only set of keys to the company arms room. At that time I was injured and on a physical profile that kept me from going on missions out in the bush,so I was assigned to a NG signal battalion at Nha Trang until my physical profile expired and I was fit to return to regular duty again. They didn't know what else to do with me,so they made me the company armorer.
I agree. This was no trained sniper but just an Army reservist. The witnesses all though there were several shooters involved and they may have been right. If so, they have somehow disappeared just like they have in other such incidents. Lee Harvey Oswald claimed to have been a patsy, and I believe him. He was no sharpshooter and possessed an unreliable weapon. Yet, the FBI claimed he made extremely difficult shots including the "miracle bullet". This guy may have been a patsy like Oswald and probably McVeigh. Remember the sudden stop in the hunt for "John Doe 2", his supposed partner?
At this point I remain unsure about that,also. I know the early reports were of multiple shooters. If so, they have somehow disappeared just like they have in other such incidents. IF true,there can be more than one reason why the other "actors" disappear,ranging from they are terrified and running for their lives while remaining silent,to them being in goobermint custody and being sweated to discover all their contacts. I guess time will tell,but I am keeping a open mind on this until I hear the official "one shooter" explanations and have a little time to think about them. Lee Harvey Oswald claimed to have been a patsy, and I believe him. Me,too,but we all know that there is no shortages of how and why someone is a fool. I personally believe he was a patsy of Soviet agents who played on his insecurity. He was no sharpshooter and possessed an unreliable weapon. He was no more than an average shot on his best day,but there was nothing the slightest bit unreliable about the Carcano,and they were VERY accurate rifles. I have personally shot 3 shot bullseye groups with a 6.5 Carcano at 100 yards using WW-2 military surplus ammo and iron sights. Shooting at and hitting a human-sized target at that range while using a scope-sighted rifle is something anyone not blind could do. NEVER believe anything the media EVER tells you about any weapon. None of them know squat about weapons or anything else but telling the boss what he wants to hear,and they tend to believe the first fool they can find that answers their telephone calls,and fools are all they call because nobody else will talk with them. This guy may have been a patsy like Oswald and probably McVeigh. Remember the sudden stop in the hunt for "John Doe 2", his supposed partner? The goobermint got McVeigh to give a confession and then shut up while waiting to be executed by threatening to arrest,put on trial,and execute his sister as an accomplice. Anybody that doesn't think goobermint agents weren't involved as agent provocateurs with McVeigh to get him to form a plan to take down the building still believes in the Easter Bunny. The coverup came about because they,being the arrogant badge-toting shitheads they are,thought that McVeigh was a dummy and would blindly follow orders. In my OPINION,McVeigh knew he was being "handled" and understood and used their arrogance against them by setting the bomb off early. In my OPINION,the plan was to have them come dashing in at the last moment,tv cameras crews in tow,and be YUGE heroes for "discovering and disarming the bomb at the last moment". McVeigh understood that and didn't care because he had his own message he wanted to send,and his own timetable. The feds HAD to cover this up to keep from looking like the arrogant bumbling fools they really were. Simply put,they bought his silence using his sister's life. BTW,I have no idea if his sister was guilty of any advance knowledge of the bombing or not,but what I ,and McVeigh,know for a fact is if the feral government decided they wanted to convict her in a federal court and get her the death penalty,it WOULD be done regardless of her actual innocence or guilt.
Many thanks for your excellent post. Getting McVeigh to confess by threatening his sister was the same way they got James Earl Ray to confess by threatening his family. Probably used it on Tsarnev too. The Dallas police chief said that the shooter seem delusional and scrawled cryptic messages in blood Yet, this same fellow managed to take out 5 white police officers. He hated whitey but went to a BLM rally where not many white civilians would be expected. The Dallas police force is integrated but he aimed for only the white policemen. Impressive target acquisition for someone who appeared delusional and perhaps on drugs.
Ah, a breath of common sense. Unfortunately, that commodity is in short supply here in this nation these days...
Yeah,but when you are amped up on adrenaline and "in the moment" you can gain an incredible "tunnel vision clarity" that allows you to focus entirely on your targets to the exclusion of everything else. Time slows down,the light seems brighter,and your vision seems to match that of Superman. It happens.
Did what the police chief described sound like an adrenaline high?
If you do any sort of investigation of the facts, you'll find out he was most likely a CIA operative. Who else could "defect" to Russia, spill his guts on what he knew concerning military radar, marry a Russian bride, then be given money by the US State Department for his trip back to the US, bringing his bride back with him? Here's some info on some of that.. The OKC Murrah Building was brought down not by a fertilizer bomb outside the building in a U-Haul truck, but by cutter charges placed strategically on key columns within the building.. Bomb Damage Analysis of Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building =========================================== With obama and lynch firmly in control of the gestapo, the dead white cops on the ground are the ones guilty of the hate crimes. U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Although the original Austrian 1891 Mannlicher 6.5mm rifle was quite well designed for the time and was produced to a high standard, the post-war milsurp version had seen this design go through a number of changes in caliber and specification and was a mediocre weapon at best. The Germans captured a number of them and never saw fit to issue them to active troops. These rifles were issued on the home front to the Volkssturm or home guard. The Italian produced Carcano was never produced in a sniper version in contrast with numerous configurations of Enfields, Mausers and Springfields. The tolerances were never up to snuff. You have to wonder too that anyone would set about changing history with a mail order of this quality. It's no wonder that only the most expert shooters were able to get close supposed Dealy Plaza marksmanship firing at a moving target and then only after repeated trials. "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
Not to me,but he could have gone into shock after being wounded,and people in shock think and do all sorts of strange things. The one thing we know for sure is he was under a lot of stress at the time.
He was a PFC in the USMC. What he knew about military radar beyond how to turn it on and off could be written on the head of a pin. As for the rest of it,the Soviets could have sent him back to the US to cause us political problems. Soviets had a strange mindset. BTW,I went to Russia to visit a couple of times in the 90's. Almost every Russian I met was very nice to me,but they all had some strange ideas about reality.
Ok,we have nothing else to talk about here.
The only ones I have ever seen or handled were WW-2 surplus ones,and they seemed to be as well built on a dependability as most/any other issue rack quality rifles. IF I remember correctly,they were unpopular mostly because they had to be loaded in clips similar to those used by the M-1 Garand,but much more awkward to handle and flimsy. I THINK they also cocked on closing,which also was a factor in making them unpopular. I may be wrong about that,though. It's been over 35 years. I only fired one,it was a nothing special surplus rifle with iron sights,and a real tack driver with surplus ammo. People bought them because they were cheap,and they put cheap scopes on them because that was the popular thing to do in the late 50's and 60's,and many,many people back then thought all you had to do to create a sniper rifle was to put a scope on it. And even if it was only of average accuracy,that was plenty because he was going to be shooting at a target close by and he had a clear field of fire.
He was a PFC in the USMC. What he knew about military radar beyond how to turn it on and off could be written on the head of a pin. You're wrong. He worked the radar facilities for the U-2 spyplanes in the Philippines and Japan. He was a PFC (later demoted to Private) because of his discipline problems. Did you even bother reading any of the resources I linked? As for the rest of it,the Soviets could have sent him back to the US to cause us political problems. Soviets had a strange mindset. With the US State Department paying the tab, and allowing him to return with a Russian wife? BTW,I went to Russia to visit a couple of times in the 90's. Almost every Russian I met was very nice to me,but they all had some strange ideas about reality. I think most of us have been given a "strange idea about reality". Have you even heard of the bomb damage analysis by General Partin? He give unimpeachable evidence that bombs HAD to have been planted within the Murrah Bldg. itself and that it was impossible for the ANFO bomb to have caused the damage witnessed. I linked it in my post. Thirty one years active duty in the Air Force. Progressively responsible executive, scientific and technical assignments directing organizations engaged in research, development, testing, analysis, requirements generation and acquisition management of weapons systems. Assignments from laboratory to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Personal contributions made in the fields of research and development management, weapon system concepts, guided weapons technology, target acquisition aids, focused energy weapons, operations research and joint service harmonization of requirements. Retired as a Brigadier General. White House appointed Special Assistant to the Administrator, Federal Aviation Administration. Personally designated to prepare the White Paper on the Federal Aviation Administration for the 1989 Presidential Transition Team. This included development of policy initiatives on FAA/USAF joint use of the Global Positioning System (GPS), operational life for commercial aircraft, antiterrorism, airport and airway capacity, requirements in the FAA acquisition process and FAA leadership and management development. Military Command Pilot and Command Missileman with 4000 hours (37 combat.) Education: Publications/TV Honors: Community Affairs: As far as the rifle Oswald was supposed to have used in the assassination, did you ever wonder why someone felt the need to doctor the image of him holding it? JFK: Mathematical proof that the Oswald backyard photos were faked Have you ever been in the military? If you had,you would know that PFC's are not exactly high on the totem pole of knowledge. Did you even bother reading any of the resources I linked? No.
I am pretty sure I forced myself to read a little of it one time years ago,and decided he was full of shit. BTW,I know more than a few people who really are explosives experts,and they all say he is full of shit. I tend to believe them. Not going to argue with you about it,though. You are in love with the whole conspiracy idea,and nothing I or anyone else can say will ever convince you it's not true,so keep on keeping on if it makes you happy.
No. I just don't care.
I think most of us can agree that the Modello 1891 Carcano in question had nothing to do with the assassination of JFK. By Bill MacDowall DRAWING CONCLUSIONS Much of the evidence relating to C2766 is less clear-cut than the WR tried to claim. There are many problem areas that should have been investigated in greater detail to resolve issues raised. For the most part these issues were simply ignored. The chain of evidence that places C2766 in the hands of Lee Harvey Oswald on the 6th floor of the TSBD at 12.30PM on November 22nd 1963 is fatally flawed and evidently contrived. There is no reliable evidence to show that C-2766 is the same rifle Luciano Riva restored, no reliable evidence that C2766 was ordered and sold to Klein's in the manner and on the dates claimed. There is no reliable evidence that the money order Oswald was alleged to have used to purchase the rifle arrived at Klein's on the date and in the manner claimed. It cannot be satisfactorily established that Oswald could have taken delivery of the Carcano in the way Harry Holmes alleged. On the day of the assassination no one saw Oswald take any package into the TSBD that could reasonably have contained C2766. Vigorous attempts were made to induce Buell Wesley Frazier, Linne May Randle and Jack Dougherty to say otherwise but these attempts failed. There is strong evidence that Oswald could not have fabricated the bag alleged to have been used to carry C2766 into the TSBD and a complete absence of photographic evidence that the bag ever existed. The testimonial evidence raises more questions than it ever answers. The conduct and professionalism of the DPD officers involved in the finding and handling of C2766 was dire. The testimonies of Fritz, Day and Weitzman in particular are replete with prevarication and equivocation. In taking the testimony of these officers the WC counsel had ample opportunity to fully air all the issues raised and to clarify the ambiguities. In failing to do so, the WC counsel were culpable. Perhaps most damning of all is the destruction/loss of evidence and the fabrication of new evidence. It must have been apparent to the WC that something was wrong. Why, for example, rely upon Postal Inspector Harry D. Holmes to explain the procedure for handling post box application forms when it would have been a simple matter to obtain the official procedure manual? Why accept the evidence provided by Holmes and the FBI that Hidell was not authorized to collect mail from P.O. Box 2915 when they could not have known this unless they had seen Part 3 of the form supposedly destroyed? So many years after the assassination it has still been possible to trace the history of C2766 and the evidence tendered in support of it being the assassination weapon. It is not possible to state that Lee Harvey Oswald was not involved in some way with the assassination but I am satisfied that the evidence linking him to C2766 is not legitimate. http://www.oocities.org/whiskey99a/carcano.html "If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
As Oswald observed shortly before his demise, "I'm a patsy." Truth, and end of Lee's involvement. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Have you ever been in the military? Yes, USMC. If you had,you would know that PFC's are not exactly high on the totem pole of knowledge. While higher ranks might attend more schools, everyone in his MOS go through the same basic schools, which there he would have needed to have at least a confidential clearance. But in terms of what Oswald knew, he had to know enough to operate the radar he was assigned to operate, along with SOME classified info in terms of not only how to operate the radar, but what he saw on that radar. Here's some info on what he knew, as archived by the US government.. From Report of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy I've known people leave the Marine Corps as Lance Corporals after 4 years of service, not necessarily because they were screw ups, but because it was hard to get promoted in certain MOS's due to the number of people who DID reenlist and the number of existing NCO's in those MOS's. A PFC is an E-2 whereas a Lance Corporal is an E-3. Myself, I got out after 4 years as a Sergeant (E-5). Did you even bother reading any of the resources I linked? No. Then perhaps you should if you want to know anything beyond the "official story". I'm not "in love" with any such thing, I simply seek the truth. But it's quite obvious OKC did not occur as reported by the government. Ever hear of TERRENCE YEAKEY? BTW, General Partin IS an acknowledged expert on explosives, and I'd believe him before I believe some phantom Internet "expert".. Here's more about General Partin and his views on the OKC bombing.. Great info, thanks for posting. BTW, I had watched a documentary on the assassination, not sure if it was PBS or not, but it stated that Oswald was seen buying a Coke from a vending machine 60 seconds or so prior to the assassination, where he would have needed to run up some stairs and down a hallway to get to the window he is alleged to have shot Kennedy from. Sort of impossible to settle into a sniper position and prepare to fire in that amount of time. Not something a determined assassin would do right before his chance to make history. Yes. I believe that Mark Lane was the first to make that claim public.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
Believe what you want,but I prefer to believe people that used to be demolitions instructors at the US Army Special Warfare School. Frankly,Generals don't impress me much when it comes to technical knowledge. They are "big picture" people,not nuts and bolts people But if it makes you happy to believe all that stuff,have at it. From what *I* have seen all these complex conspiracy theories have just enough factual information in them to draw you in,but the further you go "in" the more you have to accept in order to keep it alive "A" may well lead to "B",which leads to "C",but that doesn't mean it is always true,or that any of it always leads to "D". But like I said,if you want to believe it all and it makes you happy to do so,have at it.
Again Pete, look at the link I posted concerning DECEASED Officer Terrence Yeakey. There's more than enough there to show you something ain't quite right in Okie. From Red Flags From an Expert General Partin is recognized as a major guiding force behind our modern precision guided weapons systems. As far back as the late 1950s, he developed the earliest focused energy weapons program, wrote the first contract for laser weapons development, and pushed for deployment of a functional “Star Wars” missile defense system decades before it became the hotly debated issue of the 1980s. General Partin was a Command Pilot and Command Missileman, a Distinguished Graduate of the Air War College, a recipient of the Distinguished Service Medal, and thrice a recipient of the Legion of Merit. In short, General Benton Partin is an “expert’s expert,” and his carefully reasoned analysis should command a respectful hearing. Unfortunately, he received no hearing whatsoever from political officialdom or from the arbiters of “acceptable” debate in the Establishment media.
#2. To: Ada (#0)
I think we’re going to miss WHO trained the killer: The government. Yes, this man was a combat veteran.
#3. To: sneakypete (#2)
#4. To: Ada (#3)
The witnesses all though there were several shooters involved and they may have been right.
#5. To: sneakypete (#4)
#6. To: Ada (#0)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination 
#7. To: Ada (#5)
Impressive target acquisition for someone who appeared delusional and perhaps on drugs.
#8. To: sneakypete (#7)
It happens.
#9. To: sneakypete (#4)
Me,too,but we all know that there is no shortages of how and why someone is a fool. I personally believe he was a patsy of Soviet agents who played on his insecurity.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#10. To: sneakypete (#4)
In my OPINION,McVeigh knew he was being "handled" and understood and used their arrogance against them by setting the bomb off early. In my OPINION,the plan was to have them come dashing in at the last moment,tv cameras crews in tow,and be YUGE heroes for "discovering and disarming the bomb at the last moment". McVeigh understood that and didn't care because he had his own message he wanted to send,and his own timetable. The feds HAD to cover this up to keep from looking like the arrogant bumbling fools they really were. Simply put,they bought his silence using his sister's life.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#11. To: Ada (#0)
Will the media be true to truth and call this a “hate crime” or will this be gussied up in some apologetic poppycock engineered to absolve the reality from being held accountable?
#12. To: sneakypete (#4)
#13. To: Ada (#8)
Did what the police chief described sound like an adrenaline high?
#14. To: FormerLurker (#9)
Who else could "defect" to Russia, spill his guts on what he knew concerning military radar, marry a Russian bride, then be given money by the US State Department for his trip back to the US, bringing his bride back with him?
#15. To: FormerLurker (#10)
The OKC Murrah Building was brought down not by a fertilizer bomb outside the building in a U-Haul truck, but by cutter charges placed strategically on key columns within the building..
#16. To: randge (#12)
Although the original Austrian 1891 Mannlicher 6.5mm rifle was quite well designed for the time and was produced to a high standard, the post-war milsurp version had seen this design go through a number of changes in caliber and specification and was a mediocre weapon at best. The Germans captured a number of them and never saw fit to issue them to active troops. These rifles were issued on the home front to the Volkssturm or home guard. The Italian produced Carcano was never produced in a sniper version in contrast with numerous configurations of Enfields, Mausers and Springfields. The tolerances were never up to snuff.
#17. To: sneakypete (#14)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#18. To: sneakypete (#15)
Ok,we have nothing else to talk about here.
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"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#19. To: sneakypete (#16)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#20. To: FormerLurker (#17)
You're wrong. He worked the radar facilities for the U-2 spyplanes in the Philippines and Japan. He was a PFC (later demoted to Private) because of his discipline problems.
#21. To: FormerLurker (#18)
Have you even heard of the bomb damage analysis by General Partin?
#22. To: FormerLurker (#19)
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As far as the rifle Oswald was supposed to have used in the assassination, did you ever wonder why someone felt the need to doctor the image of him holding it?
#23. To: FormerLurker (#19)
did you ever wonder why someone felt the need to doctor the image of him holding it?
The Great Carcano Swindle
#24. To: randge (#23)
#25. To: sneakypete (#20)
On December 22, Oswald was assigned to Marine Air Control Squadron No. 9 (MACS-9) at the Marine Corps Air Station at El Toro, where he had been briefly before he went overseas.371 He was one of about seven enlisted men and three officers who formed a "radar crew," engaged primarily in aircraft surveillance.372 This work probably gave him access to certain kinds of classified material, some of which, such as aircraft call signs and radio frequencies, was changed after his defection to Russia.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#26. To: sneakypete (#21)
You are in love with the whole conspiracy idea,and nothing I or anyone else can say will ever convince you it's not true,so keep on keeping on if it makes you happy.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#27. To: randge (#23)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#28. To: FormerLurker (#27)
#29. To: FormerLurker (#26)
BTW, General Partin IS an acknowledged expert on explosives, and I'd believe him before I believe some phantom Internet "expert"..
#30. To: sneakypete (#29)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#31. To: sneakypete (#29)
General Partin was not offering another “wacko conspiracy theory.” He was offering solid, compelling, methodical, scientific analysis backed by a sterling career and impeccable credentials. Twenty-five of his 31 years of active service in the Air Force were involved in intensive research, design, development, testing, and management of weapons at all levels. This included extensive hands-on work at the Ballistic Research Laboratories and field testing of all types of explosives on a broad spectrum of structures and targets. He served as commander of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory and was the first chairman of the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) joint service Air Munitions Requirements and Development Committee, responsible for munitions development for the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
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