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Title: Spare Me The Maudlin Theatrics, Please
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URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07 ... pare-maudlin-theatrics-please/
Published: Jul 9, 2016
Author: Jack Perry
Post Date: 2016-07-09 18:45:10 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 346
Comments: 31

So, what do you want me to say about this, then? Another “mass shooting event” and this time, it was the police targeted. Now, my first question is: Will the media be true to truth and call this a “hate crime” or will this be gussied up in some apologetic poppycock engineered to absolve the reality from being held accountable?

Offhand, I think we’re going to miss a major point here in the rush to find fig leafs to cover up the truth and inanimate objects to assign blame to. I think we’re going to miss WHO trained the killer: The government. Yes, this man was a combat veteran. Therefore, as to who trained this guy to kill, that would be the government. As I have said here so many times my odometer has clicked over, you cannot teach violence as a solution to any problem and then expect this won’t one-day re-appear on your own doorstep. It would appear our government trained the wrong guy. Or, rather, he went and killed people the government didn’t order him to.

Again, when you justify the killing of other people based on the “They Are Not Us” philosophy, that is exactly the belief system people will take home and manifest into your society later. See, the only justifiable reason for killing another human being is immediate self-defense. Not “pre-emptive” hogwash or “regime change” or “liberating” people. Because when you say that killing people is getting people to do things you tell them to do by other means, then you should not be at all surprised when this blows up in your face. Literally.

Oh, sure, let’s blame the firearm. Why not? Because that’s easier than saying the government is teaching violence and even its own police agencies are not safe. It’s own military isn’t safe, either, as mass shooting events on U.S. military bases have shown. I’m going to go way out on the limb of controversy here. If the government holds fast to the idea that war is diplomacy by other means, guess what? Some of these mass murderers are saying that mass murder is social change by other means. This one evidently was saying that. So was the dude in Orlando.

Now, I am not excusing this violence. Far from it. Violence is wrong no matter who does it. Those cops were innocent people, killed because they were cops and because of their skin color also. But we cannot condemn violence when it manifests amongst us and then excuse it when the government does it to other people we don’t know or see overseas. If we are to be true to a morality worth calling one, we will condemn all violence. We won’t wave the flag and cheer on the slaughter of people because they’re led by some dude we don’t like. We also won’t celebrate that slaughter like we did here four days ago with Fourth of July.

One more time, this mass murderer was taught his skills by the United States government. Now we can see what has been done overseas in places like Afghanistan, isn’t that correct? Oh, but now we’re sad and angry? How so, America? Were you sad and angry when a bunch of U.S. military members got away with destroying a hospital in Afghanistan and killing a bunch of innocent people? And if they were actually prosecuted, all the Blood-Shine Patriots would have come crawling out from under rocks to scream about “patriotic troops being jailed for doing their jobs”. Doing their jobs. Indeed. Like this dude was trained to do?

Right, here we go again. More candle-light vigils. More prayers to some vague deity no one can name anymore because they don’t even know who this deity is. Or if there is one. But they’ll pray anyway because it looks pious on TV, am I right? Plus, the candles look cooler with tears and heads bowed. Excuse me, but where are the candle-light vigils for the millions of people this government has slaughtered over some blip on the foreign policy radar? Millions of people dead and they act like those lives were just a blip on the radar. And we’re so dang proud of it, we make movies glorifying it. But let us lose more than three and we act like we’ve just suffered a gross inhumanity. Yeah, well, maybe we should start valuing all human lives. Not just our own or those of our own little enclaves of asinine and laughable social groups.

Yes, they’ll say this guy doesn’t represent all (insert group here), am I right? But we don’t apply that same rule to others in other countries. If we have to kill a hundred innocent people to nail one “bad guy” in Yemen, then so be it. Wave the flag, cheer, light fireworks, grill hot dogs, have nifty furniture sales and buy lots of crap at the mall because it’s also on sale. Then when violence happens here, we act like we don’t know how this could possibly happen to us. Why it’s not fair! Spare me the maudlin theatrics. You sit there and watch movies where violence is celebrated, especially the violence the United States government wreaks across the globe. Gosh, American Sniper, you weren’t supposed to do that here! Do it over there, where you’re supposed to!

Right, candles, I’ll put them on the shopping list. But I wonder when we will finally see that you cannot teach this violence to an entire country and not expect violence. If you plant poison ivy in the yard, what, you don’t expect a bad rash? Having this government is like having a Water Moccasin in the yard, under the porch. Sooner or later, it bites the people in whose yard it lives. Tired of the violence? Then stop teaching it and celebrating it.

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#2. To: Ada (#0)

I think we’re going to miss WHO trained the killer: The government. Yes, this man was a combat veteran.

Complete and utter BullBush. He was a freaking laborer with an engineer battalion based at a Air Force base. He was never in combat and most likely didn't even carry a gun the whole time he was there. Or even see one up close.

I personally knew people who spend a year or more in VN during the VN war that never once picked up a gun,or even have access to one because all the guns and ammunition remained locked up in the arms room the whole time they were there.

I know this to be a fact because *I* had the only set of keys to the company arms room. At that time I was injured and on a physical profile that kept me from going on missions out in the bush,so I was assigned to a NG signal battalion at Nha Trang until my physical profile expired and I was fit to return to regular duty again. They didn't know what else to do with me,so they made me the company armorer.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-07-09   19:04:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

I agree. This was no trained sniper but just an Army reservist. The witnesses all though there were several shooters involved and they may have been right. If so, they have somehow disappeared just like they have in other such incidents.

Lee Harvey Oswald claimed to have been a patsy, and I believe him. He was no sharpshooter and possessed an unreliable weapon. Yet, the FBI claimed he made extremely difficult shots including the "miracle bullet".

This guy may have been a patsy like Oswald and probably McVeigh. Remember the sudden stop in the hunt for "John Doe 2", his supposed partner?

Ada  posted on  2016-07-10   7:05:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#3)

The witnesses all though there were several shooters involved and they may have been right.

At this point I remain unsure about that,also. I know the early reports were of multiple shooters.

If so, they have somehow disappeared just like they have in other such incidents.

IF true,there can be more than one reason why the other "actors" disappear,ranging from they are terrified and running for their lives while remaining silent,to them being in goobermint custody and being sweated to discover all their contacts.

I guess time will tell,but I am keeping a open mind on this until I hear the official "one shooter" explanations and have a little time to think about them.

Lee Harvey Oswald claimed to have been a patsy, and I believe him.

Me,too,but we all know that there is no shortages of how and why someone is a fool. I personally believe he was a patsy of Soviet agents who played on his insecurity.

He was no sharpshooter and possessed an unreliable weapon.

He was no more than an average shot on his best day,but there was nothing the slightest bit unreliable about the Carcano,and they were VERY accurate rifles. I have personally shot 3 shot bullseye groups with a 6.5 Carcano at 100 yards using WW-2 military surplus ammo and iron sights. Shooting at and hitting a human-sized target at that range while using a scope-sighted rifle is something anyone not blind could do.

NEVER believe anything the media EVER tells you about any weapon. None of them know squat about weapons or anything else but telling the boss what he wants to hear,and they tend to believe the first fool they can find that answers their telephone calls,and fools are all they call because nobody else will talk with them.

This guy may have been a patsy like Oswald and probably McVeigh. Remember the sudden stop in the hunt for "John Doe 2", his supposed partner?

The goobermint got McVeigh to give a confession and then shut up while waiting to be executed by threatening to arrest,put on trial,and execute his sister as an accomplice. Anybody that doesn't think goobermint agents weren't involved as agent provocateurs with McVeigh to get him to form a plan to take down the building still believes in the Easter Bunny. The coverup came about because they,being the arrogant badge-toting shitheads they are,thought that McVeigh was a dummy and would blindly follow orders.

In my OPINION,McVeigh knew he was being "handled" and understood and used their arrogance against them by setting the bomb off early. In my OPINION,the plan was to have them come dashing in at the last moment,tv cameras crews in tow,and be YUGE heroes for "discovering and disarming the bomb at the last moment". McVeigh understood that and didn't care because he had his own message he wanted to send,and his own timetable. The feds HAD to cover this up to keep from looking like the arrogant bumbling fools they really were. Simply put,they bought his silence using his sister's life.

BTW,I have no idea if his sister was guilty of any advance knowledge of the bombing or not,but what I ,and McVeigh,know for a fact is if the feral government decided they wanted to convict her in a federal court and get her the death penalty,it WOULD be done regardless of her actual innocence or guilt.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-07-10   10:06:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: sneakypete (#4)

Me,too,but we all know that there is no shortages of how and why someone is a fool. I personally believe he was a patsy of Soviet agents who played on his insecurity.

If you do any sort of investigation of the facts, you'll find out he was most likely a CIA operative.

Who else could "defect" to Russia, spill his guts on what he knew concerning military radar, marry a Russian bride, then be given money by the US State Department for his trip back to the US, bringing his bride back with him?

Here's some info on some of that..

The Career of Lee Harvey Oswald

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-07-10   13:17:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#9)

Who else could "defect" to Russia, spill his guts on what he knew concerning military radar, marry a Russian bride, then be given money by the US State Department for his trip back to the US, bringing his bride back with him?

He was a PFC in the USMC. What he knew about military radar beyond how to turn it on and off could be written on the head of a pin.

As for the rest of it,the Soviets could have sent him back to the US to cause us political problems. Soviets had a strange mindset.

BTW,I went to Russia to visit a couple of times in the 90's. Almost every Russian I met was very nice to me,but they all had some strange ideas about reality.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-07-10   15:19:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#14)

He was a PFC in the USMC. What he knew about military radar beyond how to turn it on and off could be written on the head of a pin.

You're wrong. He worked the radar facilities for the U-2 spyplanes in the Philippines and Japan. He was a PFC (later demoted to Private) because of his discipline problems.

Did you even bother reading any of the resources I linked?

As for the rest of it,the Soviets could have sent him back to the US to cause us political problems. Soviets had a strange mindset.

With the US State Department paying the tab, and allowing him to return with a Russian wife?

BTW,I went to Russia to visit a couple of times in the 90's. Almost every Russian I met was very nice to me,but they all had some strange ideas about reality.

I think most of us have been given a "strange idea about reality".

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-07-10   17:25:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker (#17)

You're wrong. He worked the radar facilities for the U-2 spyplanes in the Philippines and Japan. He was a PFC (later demoted to Private) because of his discipline problems.

Have you ever been in the military? If you had,you would know that PFC's are not exactly high on the totem pole of knowledge.

Did you even bother reading any of the resources I linked?

No.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-07-10   18:07:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#20)

Have you ever been in the military?

Yes, USMC.

If you had,you would know that PFC's are not exactly high on the totem pole of knowledge.

While higher ranks might attend more schools, everyone in his MOS go through the same basic schools, which there he would have needed to have at least a confidential clearance.

But in terms of what Oswald knew, he had to know enough to operate the radar he was assigned to operate, along with SOME classified info in terms of not only how to operate the radar, but what he saw on that radar.

Here's some info on what he knew, as archived by the US government..

From Report of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy

On December 22, Oswald was assigned to Marine Air Control Squadron No. 9 (MACS-9) at the Marine Corps Air Station at El Toro, where he had been briefly before he went overseas.371 He was one of about seven enlisted men and three officers who formed a "radar crew," engaged primarily in aircraft surveillance.372 This work probably gave him access to certain kinds of classified material, some of which, such as aircraft call signs and radio frequencies, was changed after his defection to Russia.

I've known people leave the Marine Corps as Lance Corporals after 4 years of service, not necessarily because they were screw ups, but because it was hard to get promoted in certain MOS's due to the number of people who DID reenlist and the number of existing NCO's in those MOS's.

A PFC is an E-2 whereas a Lance Corporal is an E-3. Myself, I got out after 4 years as a Sergeant (E-5).

Did you even bother reading any of the resources I linked?

No.

Then perhaps you should if you want to know anything beyond the "official story".

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