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Title: Jet lag really is worse if you go east instead of west — mathematicians just proved it
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URL Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/mathemat ... d-jet-lag-141525093.html?nhp=1
Published: Jul 16, 2016
Author: [Luke Dormehl]
Post Date: 2016-07-16 07:24:19 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 376
Comments: 23

Yahoo... If you’ve ever thought that jet lag hits you much harder when traveling east rather than west, it’s not your imagination -- as a new mathematical model created by researchers at the University of Maryland proves.

If you’ve ever thought that jet lag hits you much harder when traveling east rather than west, it’s not your imagination — a new mathematical model created by researchers at the University of Maryland proves that its actually true.

As co-author of the study Professor Michelle Girvan tells Digital Trends, it’s all to do with the brain’s so-called “pacemaker cells” getting disrupted as people travel across different timezones.

“The reason that it’s harder to go east for most people is that your internal clock has a natural period that’s a little bit longer than 24 hours,” Professor Girvan explains. “What that means is that if you travel west, that’s making your day longer — which your internal clock has an easier time with because its period is already slightly more than 24 hours. With east, on the other hand, it’s more more difficult for the opposite reason.”

Related: Neuroon Sleep Mask claims to offer a solution to jet lag

The University of Maryland study uses mathematical proofs to show how the brain’s pacemaker cells have to resynchronize as they adapt to new timezones — with certain eastbound journeys being so far that they actually set your internal clock backwards instead of forwards.

“What was surprising for us was that the small difference between the natural period of your internal clock and a full 24 hour day is responsible for very large differences, in terms of recovering from jetlag for a trip that’s east versus west,” Professor Girvan continues. According to the model she helped develop, traveling eastward across three timezones will take the average person around four days to recover — while a similar trip westward would take just three days for a person to return to normal.

She does, however, note that not everyone reacts in exactly the same way, and that the parameters in the model account for variation on a person-to-person basis. “For some people, the toughest travel might be six hours east,” Professor Girvan says. “For other people it might be nine hours east.”

Going forwards, she tells Digital Trends that she would like to form “a stronger partnership with neuroscientists” to find out more about this effect. So long as that neuroscientist is located west of Maryland, presumably!

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#1. To: Tatarewicz, christine, Lod, Randge, Horse, NeoconsNailed, Cynicom, Rotara, noone222, Artisan, Esso (#0)

Flying from Los Angeles to Philadelphia was refreshing and fun. (leave at 4p arrive at 10 P after slightly over 3 hrs of flight)

But, flying west into the jet stream was exhausting. I felt as if I had pedaled the plane the whole way. The wind resistance and the extra hour of flight resulted in a two day recovery, most of which was in my crib.

The X factor of course was the North American jet stream. Otherwise, the article is probably accurate when flying white slaves from Singapore to Saudi Arabia, for instance.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-07-16   9:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HOUNDDAWG (#1)

Melatonin helps when flying for extended times in either direction.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-07-16   9:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Lod (#2)

Melatonin helps when flying for extended times in either direction.

Do you mean that you take it to sleep after arrival? Or, do you take it before the flight?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-07-16   9:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HOUNDDAWG (#3)

On a long night-flight when you arrive the next morning, take it pre-flight to make "sleeping" on the plane go better. If arriving at night, pop one (5mg) to awaken refreshed.

I take one every evening an hour before bedtime.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-07-16   9:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#4)

On a long night-flight when you arrive the next morning, take it pre-flight to make "sleeping" on the plane go better. If arriving at night, pop one (5mg) to awaken refreshed.

I take one every evening an hour before bedtime.

Thank you my friend.

Of course I've never flown to Australia, but on my short domestic hops sleeping was out of the question for this white knuckled flyer....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-07-16   9:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: HOUNDDAWG (#1)

Flying from Los Angeles to Philadelphia was refreshing and fun.

Yeah, your mileage may certainly vary. Although I found the premise of the article correct based on personal experiences flying 8-10 time zones east, I also found different folks will have different reactions depending on factors like stress levels, illness, scheduling obligations, etc. You're gonna feel a lot different if you're flying east into a beach holiday than you do when you have meeting scheduled six hours after you hit the tarmac.

And I concur about melatonin. Not only is it the best thing for jet lag, it's a great sleep aid, and a regular dose now and then really smooths out the rough edges. Scientists, I'd read somewhere, found that little white lab rats lived significantly longer when they were fed regular doses of melatonin. It's good for old f**ckers because as we age, our brains produce less melatonin which is the enzyme that helps us get to sleep. I hear commercial melatonin is derived from the brains of sheep.

I wonder where the old folk nostrum about counting sheep came from.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2016-07-16   10:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Fly South


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-07-16   11:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HOUNDDAWG, lod, randge (#1)

the biggest problem I have on planes is not enough legroom.

I'm not sure why, but as I get older I require much less sleep. Plus I usually have a lot of energy. and because of my job, I am used to all sorts of zany schedules. So I haven't found planes to have any effect on my sleep or fatigue one way or another. I also haven't had any aggravation at airports for many years now. the workers are always very polite and professional, which I found to be a very pleasant surprise.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2016-07-17   14:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#8)

Airlines are stuffing more and more passengers into less and less space today.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-07-17   14:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#8)

the workers are always very polite and professional,

Airlines are keenly aware that the traveling public feel that flying is a lot less fun than it used to be and that there's a lot more aggravation on board and at airports. They're training personnel to be extra nice.

Even the TSA (at Houston) are disarmingly low key and generally friendly.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2016-07-17   15:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: randge (#10)

Whoa. Bush, Hobby, or both?

Amazing report, thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-07-17   15:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lod (#11)

Haven't flown Hobby in a while, but the last couple of times I flew out of Bush, it seems that the TSA men and women were making a special effort to be "nice."

As they say, "Your mileage may vary."

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2016-07-17   16:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: randge, lod (#12)

Haven't flown Hobby in a while, but the last couple of times I flew out of Bush, it seems that the TSA men and women were making a special effort to be "nice." As they say, "Your mileage may vary."

yeah, that's who I was referring to also, the TSA agents. They have been very polite and professional., (while their machines supposedly radiate us.)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2016-07-17   16:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: randge (#6)

Yeah, your mileage may certainly vary. Although I found the premise of the article correct based on personal experiences flying 8-10 time zones east, I also found different folks will have different reactions depending on factors like stress levels, illness, scheduling obligations, etc. You're gonna feel a lot different if you're flying east into a beach holiday than you do when you have meeting scheduled six hours after you hit the tarmac.

And I concur about melatonin. Not only is it the best thing for jet lag, it's a great sleep aid, and a regular dose now and then really smooths out the rough edges. Scientists, I'd read somewhere, found that little white lab rats lived significantly longer when they were fed regular doses of melatonin. It's good for old f**ckers because as we age, our brains produce less melatonin which is the enzyme that helps us get to sleep. I hear commercial melatonin is derived from the brains of sheep.

I wonder where the old folk nostrum about counting sheep came from.

Thank you for the additional info.

And, I do take melatonin on occasion at my son's recommendation. Sleep was already a problem before, but since Wifey suddenly passed it doesn't take much to keep me awake until daylight, and then I pass out from exhaustion.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-07-18   7:17:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Artisan (#8)

the biggest problem I have on planes is not enough legroom.

I'm not sure why, but as I get older I require much less sleep. Plus I usually have a lot of energy. and because of my job, I am used to all sorts of zany schedules. So I haven't found planes to have any effect on my sleep or fatigue one way or another. I also haven't had any aggravation at airports for many years now. the workers are always very polite and professional, which I found to be a very pleasant surprise.

I haven't flown since 1985 when it was still legal to smoke on planes. On my last flight I was seated next to a non smoking lady, so I moved to the rear bench for the stews each time I needed a fix. (As I often tell folks, "I'm from Virginia, they gave us kids tobacco in the school lunch program!")

Although leg room hasn't been a problem on my domestic flights (and as a young man) these days I flat refuse to to fly, and I wish everyone else would. If people boycotted commercial air travel the airlines would take over security again, and boot them near nig idiots back to the unemployment lines. As Carol On The Web once stated, "If this is the cure I'll take the disease!" She was referring to the obvious payback the jigaboos were getting on Caucasian flyers at the mercy of the TSA.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-07-18   7:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge (#10)

Airlines are keenly aware that the traveling public feel that flying is a lot less fun than it used to be and that there's a lot more aggravation on board and at airports. They're training personnel to be extra nice.

Even the TSA (at Houston) are disarmingly low key and generally friendly.

It's easy to be nice when the descendants of former overseers are standing in lines before you, miserable and intimidated.

TSA training probably teaches, "Remember, you are a god, so be nice!"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-07-18   7:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: HOUNDDAWG, randge, sleepless in 4um (#14)

Another good, natural, sleep aid is L-Tryptophan; dirt cheap, and easier than making a turkey sandwich every evening.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-07-18   7:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#17)

Another good, natural, sleep aid is L-Tryptophan; dirt cheap, and easier than making a turkey sandwich every evening.

Right again. I took that years ago!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-07-18   7:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16)

It's easy to be nice when the descendants of former overseers are standing in lines before you, miserable and intimidated.

It's a piece of shit any way you look at it, but there's a marked difference in the way you're treated in Houston on the one hand and at La Guardia or Kennedy on the other.

Make of that what you will.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2016-07-18   18:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: randge (#19)

It's a piece of shit any way you look at it, but there's a marked difference in the way you're treated in Houston on the one hand and at La Guardia or Kennedy on the other.

Make of that what you will.

Right, thank you.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-07-19   8:30:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: randge (#19)

there's a marked difference in the way you're treated in Houston on the one hand and at La Guardia or Kennedy on the other.

Spose it has anything to do with local "culture" and race of people available?

Cynicom  posted on  2016-07-19   9:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21)

I dunno, Cyni,

The afro-type TSA agents & the euro-type TSA agents are pretty much uniformly OK. In fact, I'd have to say that the black folks I meet in Houston are pretty mellow. I don't have problem with them. People in Houston are very easy going, generally speaking.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2016-07-20   16:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: randge (#22)

People in Houston are very easy going, generally speaking.

Texans, in general, are rather slow to anger; but just don't ever get them there.

And if you do, be sure to pack a lunch.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-07-20   16:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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