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Title: Goldman: The Last Two Times P/E Multiples Expanded This Much, The Result Was A Historic Crash
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016- ... lt-was-historic-crash?AID=7236
Published: Jul 23, 2016
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2016-07-24 20:28:04 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: None
Views: 363
Comments: 1

Goldman: The Last Two Times P/E Multiples Expanded This Much, The Result Was A Historic Crash

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by Tyler Durden

Jul 23, 2016 4:18 PM

It's not just former Fed economists who are getting worried. So is Goldman.

As we wrote last weekend, "With "Stock Valuations At Extremes" Goldman's Clients Are Asking Just One Question", namely how much longer can the rally continue. This followed another Goldman warning from two weeks ago, where as we noted before, "Goldman Warns Of A Sharp Plunge In Stocks In "Next Few Months."

Who knows: maybe Goldman will be right and the market will plunge - it certainly isn't trading at all time highs and 25x GAAP multiples on fundamentals. But for now those who heeded Goldman's warning and traded ahead of a 10% "pullback" have gotten crushed.

So has Goldman's chief equity strategist David Kostin finally thrown in the towel?

Not yet. In fact, Kostin appears to be doubling down, and as he observes (correctly) overnight, the one sole reason behind the market rally in recent years - clearly not earnings growth as we wrote earlier - namely, multiple expansion, is now substantially overdone. And not just that: as Kostin points out, there have been only two time in history when the P/E multiple has expanded as much (75%) or more as it has in the current cycle: 1984-1987 and 1994-1994. Both ended with historic crashes. To wit:

The current P/E expansion cycle is now one of the largest in history. Since September 2011, S&P 500 forward P/E has grown by 75% (from 10x to 18x). This expansion has only been surpassed twice since 1976, when the multiple rose by 111% from 1984-1987 (ending with the 22% Black Monday collapse) and by 115% from 1994-1999 (ending with the Tech Bubble pop). During the nine previous P/E expansion cycles the multiple typically climbed by 50%.

Thanks, David, we get it. It's going to end very badly. Just maybe tell your friend Bill Dudley to stop pushing it ever higher and assuring the resulting crash will be that much worse, maybe?

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Major corrections seem to be triggered by major events, probably to disguise market manipulation.

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