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Title: Why Are Neocons Obsessed With Russia?
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URL Source: http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/new-cold-war/ri16031
Published: Aug 16, 2016
Author: The Z Blog
Post Date: 2016-08-16 04:53:33 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 580
Comments: 1

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"There’s also an undeniable tribal flavor to it. Almost all neocons are Jews and specifically Russian Jews. There has always been a strong anti-Russian strain within American Jewry that dates back to to when Russian Jews started migrating to America."

One of the more curious parts of the American presidential campaign is the furious side battle over how to deal with the Russians. Many Republicans have adopted the neo-conservative line that Putin is some combination of Stalin, Hitler and that third grade bully who put gum in their hair. They are incapable of seeing Putin as anything but an inhuman evil. This says more about the Republican-aligned publications and think tanks, which have come to be dominated by the neo-cons, than anything else.

Trump has taken a less provocative stance than most Republicans so that has all the professional loonies out howling in the streets. Part of this is simply due to the anti-Trump virus that has infected Official Conservatism™, but it also reveals something about the political class. While neo-cons have always had greater influence over the Republicans, they currently dominate the foreign policy establishment. It was under Obama, after all, that Victoria Nuland helped throw the Ukraine into turmoil.

The puzzle is why the neo-cons have an obsession with the Russians. The Cold War has been over for a long time and the Russians are not much of a threat to anyone. They have a lot of nukes, but what reason would they have to nuke anyone? The Russian ruling class is living like Saudi Royals, mostly from selling natural resources to the Europeans. They control roughly 40% of the natural gas supply to Europe and that accounts for 68% of Russian exports. That means the Russians are in no hurry to stop selling gas to the rest of Europe.

Part of it is good old fashioned professional inertia. People like Frederick Kagan, Donald Kagan and Robert Kagan (husband of Victoria Nuland) have organized their lives around opposition to the Russians. They’re not alone. The whole neo-conservative project, as a political movement, was mostly about opposition to the Soviets. Most of the men who lead the neo-conservative cause these days are old men who started out in life as Cold War hawks. When the Soviets collapsed, they did not find a new career. They simply found new reasons to demonize the Russians.

There’s also an undeniable tribal flavor to it. Almost all neocons are Jews and specifically Russian Jews. There has always been a strong anti-Russian strain within American Jewry that dates back to to when Russian Jews started migrating to America. It’s not entirely irrational, given the way Jews were treated by the Czars. But, there has always been a divide within American Jewry. One one side are German Jews who emigrated in the 19th century and largely blended into the ruling class. On the other side are the Russian Jews who were treated like poorer relations.

While all of this is interesting background, it is no reason to restart the Cold War and there are some dissenters who think the neo-cons are nuts. Some on the Right point to the fact the neo-cons were outlandishly wrong about the Muslims and should not be trusted with Russia policy. Then there are critics from the Left who also think the neo-cons are nuts, but they mostly think we’re better off doing business with the Russians. Stephen Cohen is the most prominent voice on the Left warning that a new Cold War with Russia is a terrible idea.

There’s another element that explains the neo-con obsession with Putin. Irving Kristol’s brand of conservatism was intended to be forward looking and anti-traditionalist. It’s not an accident that the neo-cons are forever chirping about happy warriors and optimistic conservatism. They see traditionalism as pessimistic and limiting. Whatever else you want to say about Putin, he is very much in the tradition of European conservatism, which is traditionalist and limiting. The state is to defend citizens from one another, not guide them to the glorious future where they can reach their full potential.

Then there’s globalism, which has become something of a religion for western ruling elites. Irving Kristol’s brand of politics has easily folded into the globalist fantasies of American policy makers, because it gives the naked money grab the veneer of humanitarianism. The trillion dollar boondoggle that was the Iraq War was tarted up as an effort to install democracy and liberalism in the Muslim world. It’s a lot easier to loot your country’s middle-class when you are convinced it is to make the world a better place.

Even if the neo-cons continue to dominate the debate, it takes two to tango and there’s plenty of reasons to think the Russians are not all that interested in a new Cold War. Russian per capita GDP is $13,000. The poorest state in America is at $35,000, while the poorest state in the EU is Bulgaria at $18,000. Russia is not Albania, but it is a very poor country relative to the West. It’s also a country with horrible demographics and wide spread drug and alcohol problems. They also have a Muslim problem that gets little attention. In other words, the Russians are in no condition for a Cold War.

Originally appeared at The Z Blog


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Pablo • "Why Are Neocons Obsessed With Russia?" The neo-cons outlined their reasons for hating Russia early on. The neo-cons published their Mission Statement via their "think tank" The Project for the New American Century (PNAC). Some of the goals are: "Full Spectrum, Dominance". The USA has the right to dominate the World. Next,the US is Exceptional, meaning it has the right to impose their standards onto the rest of the World--and that the constraints imposed by International Law do NOT apply to the USA. Last, but certainly not least, the USA has the Destiny, the God-given Right to be the World's sole Super Power. Quite a supremely arrogant position to take, no? +4

Tatarewicz... While America may appear to be dominating the world you're overlooking that it's Israel that dominates US foreign policy by having its lobby in collaboration with Jew-controlled media, arrange for the election to Congress only Democrats and Republicans who will ensure Israel's security. America doesn't have to exercise or push dominance. It's leadership in industrial, scientific technology, in education and so many fields will have most of the world coming to it, only hindered by having to provide security for a bunch of illegal squatters in Palestine.

chris chuba • The question is why not? 1. Russia is an easy enemy to understand, they are big but not too big, they have a seat at the U.N. and a face to yell at (Putin). Islamic radicals are too hard, they keep changing their names, they don't fight fair and someone just said something about Shiites and Sunnis, my head hurts. Can't we just take out Assad and see what happens? 2. But the Cold War didn't end, it was all just a trick. The Russians have secret bunkers teaming with weapons and soldiers, I read it on freebeacon. They tricked us into gutting our Defense Budget, we only spent $10T instead of $10.5T. 3. It's Russia's fault. We were nice to them after the Cold War. We treated them just like Germany after WW2 but without the lavish economic aid. Why did Russia have to start acting like an independent nation instead of an occupied client state like Germany?

teddyfromcd /Vivi • well PUTIN does have eyes that are asiatic -- similar to eskimos actually -- but definitely asiatic -- and I AM asian -- so i should recognize that very easily. and in point of fact -- again -- as i was in st petersburg i did note so many of the russians have that combination -- the shape of the eyes - a very subtle 'squint' at the sides - but blonde , blue eyed, very , very common. in NYC -- WHERE there are many russians -- i've gotten pretty good at 'identifying them -- - and almost never miss -- i hear them speak --russian.

Exbrocher • I think the likes of Soros, the neocons and their oligarch friends who had looted the assets of the USSR as it broke up all thought they had Russia under their control with a drunken populist as a front. They thought Putin was 'their man' to take over from Yeltsin but Putin outsmarted them and they've never forgiven him for that.

Tatarewicz/ Exbrocher • Putin correctly surmised he'd be much popular with the Russian people if he put their interests ahead of those of Israel, unlike Obama and other Western politicians who have to give top priority to that illegal state, in order to get backing from Jews and their media at election time.

The Visit • The reason of neocon hate is way deeper than this simplistic article. In deference to stupid Slavs who do not know their history, necons which as article correctly states are mostly jews, do know. So why do the "russian" jews hate so much Russia? It is because in X century it is the duke Vladimir that put an end to the Khazar empire. It happen just before Russians under Vladimir the Great and the son Yaroslav the Wise accepted Christianity. The necons never forgave this. In difference to Slavs who still learn falsified history such as that they come from the swamps of Carpathia or that the bigest Slav states most notably Kiev Rus was founded by Anglosaskon Vikings and not by Slavs. Now there is no time to explain all this in depth but the truth is actually quite different. All Slavs are once known as Serbs or at least their warrior part. Therefore this is why we have Serbs (Sorabs) from Luzica in today's Germany to SE of Europe or todays Serbia. This name goes all the ways to millenniums in past and all of what is now East of Raine was inhabited with this people - check out the works of Anatolii Alekseevich Klesov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.. . The other synonym for these people is Rasians. Russians are still pronounced in this way by anglo-saxons. Check out the 4S traditional Serbian heraldic at the poutch around the waist of this great Aleman. Dresden Cathedral Even today the Serbs and Russians are being told that this is Byzantine symbol. Sure Byzantine symbol before Byzantium even existed. Why is this important? It is because all this necons are descend of Khazars whose ultimate titule was kagan or a priest king. NOW do you get it. The Serbs aka the Russians aka the what is now know as Orthodox Slavs are their ultimate enemy and this goes even further in the history than even the entity of Khazars existed. The other thing is the idiocy and laziness of Russia's dependence of hydrocarbons, another truth this article exposes. But instead developing their own renewable energy tech the idiots decided to go into total delusion attacking this technologies in Russia and its appartchik media of RT and Sputnik. Just today I read the in Sputnik that oil will go up again. All this in time where for the first time investment in renewable are above those in oil and gas industry. And while the world goes into the future beyond hydrocarbons Russia will be left bankrupt in their idiotic ways occupied by (mostly) Jewish russian taikons holding mayor positions in Russia (oil) industry. This is what happens when you do not know your history.

Tatarewicz/ The Visit • Neocons objective is much more urgent than the Khazar dispersal of the past. They want US-NATO to defeat Russia so Jews can return to power there so its resources can be shared with Israel, especially if a Trump president were to cut off aid due to domestic needs. Secondly, Jew control of Russia in addition to Ukraine would give these Khazars a new sanctuary and power base in case Arabs decide to end their mischief making in the ME.

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Because they're bolsheviks who hate russia's christian whiteness. If they could, they'd mongrelize russia the same way they're trying to do US.

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