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Title: Russia: America Has Started World War 3 In Syria
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URL Source: http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php ... -started-world-war-3-in-syria/
Published: Sep 20, 2016
Author: Started by Mario Milano/Submitted by IWB
Post Date: 2016-09-20 23:48:38 by Tatarewicz
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PMF... The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation has accused the U.S. of igniting World War 3 by deliberately killing Syrian troops and aiding ISIS terrorists. Top Russian military officials have warned that the U.S. deliberately killed 62 servicemen in order to provoke a war against Russia. Inquisitr.com reports: Sputnik News reported September 18 that top Russian military officials are questioning the veracity of their American counterparts who claim that the airstrike on the Syrian military base was a mistake. But one Russian official, First Deputy Chairman of the Defense and Security Committee and Federation Council member Franz Klintsevich, told Russian news agency RIA Novosti that he believes the coordinated attack by two F-16 fighter jets and two A10 ground attack aircraft — which originated out of Iraq — was deliberate. “The US conducted airstrikes on government forces in Syria deliberately and thoughtfully. Any aerial operation is coordinated with commanders on the ground. In this case [the US] used information received from their intelligence units who infiltrated Daesh [derogatory term for ISIS, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria].” Others have been more restrained in their allegations toward the United States. Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov noted that if the U.S. airstrike was accidental, the incident was “a direct consequence of the US’ unwillingness to coordinate its actions against terrorist groups with Russia.” Klintsevich pointed out that the airstrike was in line with policymaking in Washington, which takes the position that Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, should be deposed and replaced by the U.S.-backed rebels. He said that the U.S. was acting to “maintain their economic interests” in the area. Accusations and allegations aside, all agreed that the cease-fire being negotiated between U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Geneva was in jeopardy. Russia’s United Nations envoy, Vitaly Churkin, stated that he found the timing of the U.S. airstrike “suspicious,” given the ongoing cease-fire negotiations. He said that “some aspects of the situation suggest that it could have well been a provocation.” But, he was quick to add, the attack did not necessarily mean that the ceasefire deal was over. It is unclear whether or not the U.S. airstrike against the Syrian Army base at Deir ez-Zor had anything to do with the several bombings in late July of a U.S. base in Syria. According to the Wall Street Journal (via Fox News), U.S. defense and intelligence officials reported that Russian aircraft had bombed a base maintained by U.S. and British forces, and had done so again 90 minutes after being warned that it was not to be targeted. The officials said they believed that Russia was attempting to pressure the U.S. into coordinating its air war with the Russian military. Heightened tensions have only increased fears of an escalation of events in the region to the point of World War 3. Of course, this has been an ongoing concern since Russia entered the multinational fray (September 30, 2015, according to BBC News), ostensibly to join in the fight against ISIS but seen by the world as to act as an ally and prop for the then tottering regime of Bashar al-Assad. Regardless, Russia’s entrance also increased the chances of accidental incidents that could quickly spiral into military confrontations — incidents like Russia bombing a known American base and the U.S. bombing a known Syrian Army base. (Russian officials have also voiced concern over the possibility, after Saturday’s attack, that the U.S. could mistakenly bomb a Russian airbase.) Similar scenarios of a potential World War 3 trigger have been presented before. In a September 2015 article, the Telegraph offered that the advent of World War 3 could very well be a confrontation or accident in Syria’s crowded skies. “Indeed, the skies over Syria are starting to get dangerously crowded, with Russian jets flying near US planes on bombing runs, and sparring with NATO air defenses in neighboring Turkey.” For the record, Turkey is also now involved in the war inside Syria. As reported by Al Jazeera, tensions with Russia escalated in November when a Turkish fighter shot down a Russian bomber that was claimed to have entered Turkish airspace and repeatedly warned to depart the area. The U.S. airstrike against the Syrian Army base is just the latest incident of potential diplomatic and political calamity in an already volatile region of the world. According to the New York Times, American military officials admitted that U.S. pilots had targeted a Syrian Army base, but the pilots had thought they were attacking ISIS facilities in the area. A senior Obama administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Times that the United States had stated its regrets to Syria’s government through the Russians for the “unintentional loss of life of Syrian forces” in the ongoing war against ISIS. Will historians one day look back on the events of the last few months as the precursors to World War 3? Or will they go back further to when Russia entered the conflict? Of course, historians could go even further back to the creation of the caliphate of the Islamic State or even the creation of ISIS. Regardless, for now, World War 3 history is only the province of speculation, but the fears of a major multinational conflict, given the historical ease with which other world wars have begun, are founded in realistic potentialities. investmentwat...war-3-in-syria/ Edited by Mario Milano wirehaired I say they started it years ago with the attack on Yugoslavia the syria attack is just the latest outrage,its about time Russia started treating the US Reich like the enemy it is. Zharkov Tonight's t.v. network news in the US now claims that the Pentagon said only Syrian and Russian planes were flying at the time of the bombing and the Syrians deny bombing anyone. So it was Russia's fault according to them. Russia denies bombing so we have a lot of finger pointing and not a lot of evidence. Only the US or Israel would have a motive to bomb Syrian forces. © AFP 2016/ Omar haj kadour The Russian military unveiled on Tuesday video footage of a UN humanitarian aid convoy that came under attack in Syria, which shows a militants' pickup vehicle carrying a large-caliber mortar as part of the convoy. The video shows that the UN aid convoy was accompanied by a terrorists' off-road vehicle with a large-caliber mortar launcher, the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman said. "The examination of the video footage made via drones of the movement of the humanitarian convoy in areas controlled by militants in the province of Aleppo has revealed new details. The video clearly shows how terrorists are redeploying a pickup with a large-caliber mortar on it using the convoy as a cover," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said. He said that "it is unclear yet who accompanies whom: the [pickup with a] mortar accompanies the convoy with "White Helmets" volunteers or vise versa. And most importantly, where did the mortar disappear near the destination point of the convoy and what was the target of its fire during the convoy's stop and unloading?" On Monday, the United Nations’ Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said that the aid convoy crossed the conflict line in the Big Orem area of the Syrian city of Aleppo. Later in the day, UN officials stated that the convoy had been shelled and there were casualties. Earlier in the day, the Russian Defense Ministry said that neither Russian, not Syria aircraft carried out strikes against the UN aid convoy, emphasizing that the examination of video footage reveals no signs of an ammunition strikes on the convoy and it seems to be set on fire. The ministry emphasized that the perpetrator of the fire, as well as his goal may be known by members of the "White Helmets" organization that allegedly has connection to al-Nusra Front terrorists who have "accidentally" been at the right time and in the right place with cameras. According to the official, al-Nusra Front terrorist group carried out an artillery attack on the southwestern suburb of Aleppo using multiple launch rocket systems. Read more: sputniknews....-un-convoy.html
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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
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If I had a dime for every baseless headline posted on the internet bellowing that "WWIII just started!!!"........I'd have a lot of dimes.
Thing is, our "leaders" are doing everything they can get away with in terms of starting that war. If Putin were not the sane level headed statesman that he is, we'd all be dust by now.
If they are, then they are failing spectacularly. Witness what is going on in Syria: it doesn't even rise to the level of "regional conflict", it's just a messy internecine squabble instigated and aided by interlopers like America and Russia.
A war that's been fueled by US/Saudi/Israeli trained terrorists who are massacring men, women, and children, with air support from the US, all the while there is supposed to be a cease fire negotiated by the US and Russia. Add to that the baseless hysterical screeching by US media outlets how Russia attacked a UN aid convoy, days after a US attack against the Syrian army while they were preparing to launch an offensive against ISIL/ISIS, well it's a very short fuse, put it that way. That's not including the US backed violent overthrow of the Ukraine government, and the perpetual claims of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, and the US sanctions against Russia for being in the way of the US capturing the Russian naval base in Sevastopol.
Let's face it. The U.S. has been conducting low grade wars against both the Russians and the Chinese. Sooner or later, the toothpick will break and all hell with it. ;)
The US had never poked the USSR, nor the Russian Federation as much as they have done over the past several years. And prior to China's emergence as a world power with nuclear weapons and a modern military, the US might have interfered with it now and then, but nothing like it has been doing recently in the South China Sea. It's all leading up to something no sane person on this planet wishes to experience.
Try this out for size. See below. It is unconfirmed at his time. Meanwhile, the French are moving their carrier Charles De Gaulle off the Syrian coast and the Russians are bringing in the Kuznetzov as we speak. Reports have been appearing in various pro-government media outlets since September 20 that some Russian warships, deployed in Syria’s coastal waters, hit with missiles a foreign-led military operations room near Aleppo city, killing 30 Israeli, US, Turkish, Saudi, Qatari and British officers. The military operations room was allegedly located in the western part of Aleppo province in the middle of Sam’an mountain. It was set up by foreign intelligence services in order to coordinate operations of various militant group against the Syrian government forces in the provinces of Aleppo and Idlib. Most of the pro-government media outlets cites the Arabic-language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency as a main source of the information. According to AlMasdarNews: “Russian warships fired caliber rockets onto the command posts of the terrorists in western Aleppo, where Turkish, Saudi, Israeli, UK, and US officers are deployed to aid their operations,” Sputnik News Agency reported on Tuesday. Meanwhile, the Iranian Fars News Agency believes that it was on Wednesday: “The Russian warships fired three Caliber missiles at the foreign officers’ coordination operations room in Dar Ezza region in the Western part of Aleppo near Sam’an mountain, killing 30 Israeli and western officers,” the Arabic- language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency quoted battlefield source in Aleppo as saying on Wednesday. While there are no doubts that various ‘opposition’ and terrorist groups in Syria are trained, supplied and managed by foreign intelligence services (mostly US, Turkish and Saudi), the pro-government sources have not provided video or photo evidences in order to confirm this report. The Russian Ministry of Defense has not commented on the issue. southfront.org/30-foreign...icers-israeli-us-turkish- killed-in-missile-attack-in-aleppo-unconfirmed/
If true, it's an ominous set of events. We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.
========================================== Another (historically reliable) catalyst for world war is when multiple powerful nations face debt crisis they cannot reverse (e.g., bankrupt beyond repair). That includes China, US, Japan, all of the EU nations, and 95% of the rest of the world nations. If there is no financial solution, or way of avoiding both national and world bankruptcy, then that is as much a catalyst for world war as any single event of 'mistaken' small groups of agents and soldiers laying in a pile somewhere waiting for a response-in-kind. Consider: UN fears third leg of the global financial crisis, with epic debt defaults The third leg of the world's intractable depression is yet to come. If trade economists at the United Nations are right, the next traumatic episode may entail the greatest debt jubilee in history. It may also prove to be the definitive crisis of globalized capitalism, the demise of the liberal free-market orthodoxies promoted for almost forty years by the Bretton Woods institutions, the OECD, and the Davos fraternity. "Alarm bells have been ringing over the explosion of corporate debt levels in emerging economies, which now exceed $25 trillion. Damaging deflationary spirals cannot be ruled out," said the annual report of the UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD).
Global war, global reset, new rules, same old master. No freedom if you're outside the matrix, total enslavement inside.
#26. To: Rotara (#25)
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#3. To: X-15 (#1)
If I had a dime for every baseless headline posted on the internet bellowing that "WWIII just started!!!"........I'd have a lot of dimes.
#5. To: FormerLurker (#3)
Thing is, our "leaders" are doing everything they can get away with in terms of starting that war.
#6. To: X-15 (#5)
Witness what is going on in Syria: it doesn't even rise to the level of "regional conflict", it's just a messy internecine squabble instigated and aided by interlopers like America and Russia.
#11. To: FormerLurker (#6)
That's not including the US backed violent overthrow of the Ukraine government, and the perpetual claims of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, and the US sanctions against Russia for being in the way of the US capturing the Russian naval base in Sevastopol.
#12. To: BTP Holdings (#11)
Let's face it. The U.S. has been conducting low grade wars against both the Russians and the Chinese. Sooner or later, the toothpick will break and all hell with it. ;)
#14. To: FormerLurker (#12)
It's all leading up to something no sane person on this planet wishes to experience.
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#15. To: randge (#14)
30 FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS (ISRAELI, US, TURKISH) KILLED IN MISSILE ATTACK IN ALEPPO – UNCONFIRMED
#23. To: FormerLurker (#15)
If true, it's an ominous set of events. We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.
#25. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#23)
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