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Title: Russia: America Has Started World War 3 In Syria
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Published: Sep 20, 2016
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Post Date: 2016-09-20 23:48:38 by Tatarewicz
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PMF... The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation has accused the U.S. of igniting World War 3 by deliberately killing Syrian troops and aiding ISIS terrorists. Top Russian military officials have warned that the U.S. deliberately killed 62 servicemen in order to provoke a war against Russia. Inquisitr.com reports: Sputnik News reported September 18 that top Russian military officials are questioning the veracity of their American counterparts who claim that the airstrike on the Syrian military base was a mistake. But one Russian official, First Deputy Chairman of the Defense and Security Committee and Federation Council member Franz Klintsevich, told Russian news agency RIA Novosti that he believes the coordinated attack by two F-16 fighter jets and two A10 ground attack aircraft — which originated out of Iraq — was deliberate. “The US conducted airstrikes on government forces in Syria deliberately and thoughtfully. Any aerial operation is coordinated with commanders on the ground. In this case [the US] used information received from their intelligence units who infiltrated Daesh [derogatory term for ISIS, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria].” Others have been more restrained in their allegations toward the United States. Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov noted that if the U.S. airstrike was accidental, the incident was “a direct consequence of the US’ unwillingness to coordinate its actions against terrorist groups with Russia.” Klintsevich pointed out that the airstrike was in line with policymaking in Washington, which takes the position that Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, should be deposed and replaced by the U.S.-backed rebels. He said that the U.S. was acting to “maintain their economic interests” in the area. Accusations and allegations aside, all agreed that the cease-fire being negotiated between U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Geneva was in jeopardy. Russia’s United Nations envoy, Vitaly Churkin, stated that he found the timing of the U.S. airstrike “suspicious,” given the ongoing cease-fire negotiations. He said that “some aspects of the situation suggest that it could have well been a provocation.” But, he was quick to add, the attack did not necessarily mean that the ceasefire deal was over. It is unclear whether or not the U.S. airstrike against the Syrian Army base at Deir ez-Zor had anything to do with the several bombings in late July of a U.S. base in Syria. According to the Wall Street Journal (via Fox News), U.S. defense and intelligence officials reported that Russian aircraft had bombed a base maintained by U.S. and British forces, and had done so again 90 minutes after being warned that it was not to be targeted. The officials said they believed that Russia was attempting to pressure the U.S. into coordinating its air war with the Russian military. Heightened tensions have only increased fears of an escalation of events in the region to the point of World War 3. Of course, this has been an ongoing concern since Russia entered the multinational fray (September 30, 2015, according to BBC News), ostensibly to join in the fight against ISIS but seen by the world as to act as an ally and prop for the then tottering regime of Bashar al-Assad. Regardless, Russia’s entrance also increased the chances of accidental incidents that could quickly spiral into military confrontations — incidents like Russia bombing a known American base and the U.S. bombing a known Syrian Army base. (Russian officials have also voiced concern over the possibility, after Saturday’s attack, that the U.S. could mistakenly bomb a Russian airbase.) Similar scenarios of a potential World War 3 trigger have been presented before. In a September 2015 article, the Telegraph offered that the advent of World War 3 could very well be a confrontation or accident in Syria’s crowded skies. “Indeed, the skies over Syria are starting to get dangerously crowded, with Russian jets flying near US planes on bombing runs, and sparring with NATO air defenses in neighboring Turkey.” For the record, Turkey is also now involved in the war inside Syria. As reported by Al Jazeera, tensions with Russia escalated in November when a Turkish fighter shot down a Russian bomber that was claimed to have entered Turkish airspace and repeatedly warned to depart the area. The U.S. airstrike against the Syrian Army base is just the latest incident of potential diplomatic and political calamity in an already volatile region of the world. According to the New York Times, American military officials admitted that U.S. pilots had targeted a Syrian Army base, but the pilots had thought they were attacking ISIS facilities in the area. A senior Obama administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Times that the United States had stated its regrets to Syria’s government through the Russians for the “unintentional loss of life of Syrian forces” in the ongoing war against ISIS. Will historians one day look back on the events of the last few months as the precursors to World War 3? Or will they go back further to when Russia entered the conflict? Of course, historians could go even further back to the creation of the caliphate of the Islamic State or even the creation of ISIS. Regardless, for now, World War 3 history is only the province of speculation, but the fears of a major multinational conflict, given the historical ease with which other world wars have begun, are founded in realistic potentialities. investmentwat...war-3-in-syria/ Edited by Mario Milano wirehaired I say they started it years ago with the attack on Yugoslavia the syria attack is just the latest outrage,its about time Russia started treating the US Reich like the enemy it is. Zharkov Tonight's t.v. network news in the US now claims that the Pentagon said only Syrian and Russian planes were flying at the time of the bombing and the Syrians deny bombing anyone. So it was Russia's fault according to them. Russia denies bombing so we have a lot of finger pointing and not a lot of evidence. Only the US or Israel would have a motive to bomb Syrian forces. © AFP 2016/ Omar haj kadour The Russian military unveiled on Tuesday video footage of a UN humanitarian aid convoy that came under attack in Syria, which shows a militants' pickup vehicle carrying a large-caliber mortar as part of the convoy. The video shows that the UN aid convoy was accompanied by a terrorists' off-road vehicle with a large-caliber mortar launcher, the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman said. "The examination of the video footage made via drones of the movement of the humanitarian convoy in areas controlled by militants in the province of Aleppo has revealed new details. The video clearly shows how terrorists are redeploying a pickup with a large-caliber mortar on it using the convoy as a cover," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said. He said that "it is unclear yet who accompanies whom: the [pickup with a] mortar accompanies the convoy with "White Helmets" volunteers or vise versa. And most importantly, where did the mortar disappear near the destination point of the convoy and what was the target of its fire during the convoy's stop and unloading?" On Monday, the United Nations’ Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said that the aid convoy crossed the conflict line in the Big Orem area of the Syrian city of Aleppo. Later in the day, UN officials stated that the convoy had been shelled and there were casualties. Earlier in the day, the Russian Defense Ministry said that neither Russian, not Syria aircraft carried out strikes against the UN aid convoy, emphasizing that the examination of video footage reveals no signs of an ammunition strikes on the convoy and it seems to be set on fire. The ministry emphasized that the perpetrator of the fire, as well as his goal may be known by members of the "White Helmets" organization that allegedly has connection to al-Nusra Front terrorists who have "accidentally" been at the right time and in the right place with cameras. According to the official, al-Nusra Front terrorist group carried out an artillery attack on the southwestern suburb of Aleppo using multiple launch rocket systems. Read more: sputniknews....-un-convoy.html
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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
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If I had a dime for every baseless headline posted on the internet bellowing that "WWIII just started!!!"........I'd have a lot of dimes.
-Alex Kurtagic
#2. To: X-15 (#1)
Amen... When it starts, we all gonna know it. If I had a dime for every baseless headline posted on the internet bellowing that "WWIII just started!!!"........I'd have a lot of dimes.
#3. To: X-15 (#1)
Thing is, our "leaders" are doing everything they can get away with in terms of starting that war. If Putin were not the sane level headed statesman that he is, we'd all be dust by now. If I had a dime for every baseless headline posted on the internet bellowing that "WWIII just started!!!"........I'd have a lot of dimes.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#4. To: Tatarewicz (#0)
Holy Crap someone honestly should have nuked a few dens of vipers right now. D.C, London, Rome, Brussels, Tel Aviv, Riyadh for starters. WE ARE THE TERRORISTS !!!!! replace Assad with ISIS !?
"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning
#5. To: FormerLurker (#3)
If they are, then they are failing spectacularly. Witness what is going on in Syria: it doesn't even rise to the level of "regional conflict", it's just a messy internecine squabble instigated and aided by interlopers like America and Russia. Thing is, our "leaders" are doing everything they can get away with in terms of starting that war.
-Alex Kurtagic
#6. To: X-15 (#5)
A war that's been fueled by US/Saudi/Israeli trained terrorists who are massacring men, women, and children, with air support from the US, all the while there is supposed to be a cease fire negotiated by the US and Russia. Add to that the baseless hysterical screeching by US media outlets how Russia attacked a UN aid convoy, days after a US attack against the Syrian army while they were preparing to launch an offensive against ISIL/ISIS, well it's a very short fuse, put it that way. That's not including the US backed violent overthrow of the Ukraine government, and the perpetual claims of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, and the US sanctions against Russia for being in the way of the US capturing the Russian naval base in Sevastopol. Witness what is going on in Syria: it doesn't even rise to the level of "regional conflict", it's just a messy internecine squabble instigated and aided by interlopers like America and Russia.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#7. To: FormerLurker, Cynicom (#6)
Kinda like the Spanish Civil War in the run-up to WWII: Syria is an excellent testing ground for weapons/tactics by anybody who wants to get involved. I'm waiting to see the Chinkernese stick their chopsticks into this mess to test out their hardware, that's the other shoe dropping.
-Alex Kurtagic
#8. To: X-15 (#7)
================================================== Putin won't attack without Peking. Take it to the bank. Kinda like the Spanish Civil War in the run-up to WWII: Syria is an excellent testing ground for weapons/tactics by anybody who wants to get involved. I'm waiting to see the Chinkernese stick their chopsticks into this mess to test out their hardware, that's the other shoe dropping.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, X-15 (#8)
Of course neither Putin nor any other Russian leader would launch a pre-emptive attack against the US. HOWEVER, they would certainly defend themselves against a US attack against THEM. And THAT would lead to a very quick escalation across the globe. If it keeps going the way it is, I'd say the chances of it NOT happening are slim. Let's hope that Trump gets to be elected prior to anything of that sort reaching its logical conclusion. Putin won't attack without Peking.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#10. To: X-15 (#7)
Thing is, Syria has not invited "anybody who wants to get involved", they've only invited the Russians to help them defeat the terrorists trying to take over their country. They later allowed Iran and other allied nations to help them as well. Anyone else there, such as the US and NATO, are there illegally and in violation of international law. Syria is an excellent testing ground for weapons/tactics by anybody who wants to get involved.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#11. To: FormerLurker (#6)
Let's face it. The U.S. has been conducting low grade wars against both the Russians and the Chinese. Sooner or later, the toothpick will break and all hell with it. ;) That's not including the US backed violent overthrow of the Ukraine government, and the perpetual claims of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, and the US sanctions against Russia for being in the way of the US capturing the Russian naval base in Sevastopol.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#12. To: BTP Holdings (#11)
The US had never poked the USSR, nor the Russian Federation as much as they have done over the past several years. And prior to China's emergence as a world power with nuclear weapons and a modern military, the US might have interfered with it now and then, but nothing like it has been doing recently in the South China Sea. It's all leading up to something no sane person on this planet wishes to experience. Let's face it. The U.S. has been conducting low grade wars against both the Russians and the Chinese. Sooner or later, the toothpick will break and all hell with it. ;)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#13. To: FormerLurker (#12) (Edited)
Hey, Hey, Holy Mackerel, No Doubt About It. That was the theme from when the Chicago Cubs had the pennant in their hands and lost it to the Mets in the last 4 weeks of the season in 1969. It was the September Swoon. ;) It's all leading up to something no sane person on this planet wishes to experience.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#14. To: FormerLurker (#12)
Try this out for size. See below. It is unconfirmed at his time. Meanwhile, the French are moving their carrier Charles De Gaulle off the Syrian coast and the Russians are bringing in the Kuznetzov as we speak. Reports have been appearing in various pro-government media outlets since September 20 that some Russian warships, deployed in Syria’s coastal waters, hit with missiles a foreign-led military operations room near Aleppo city, killing 30 Israeli, US, Turkish, Saudi, Qatari and British officers. The military operations room was allegedly located in the western part of Aleppo province in the middle of Sam’an mountain. It was set up by foreign intelligence services in order to coordinate operations of various militant group against the Syrian government forces in the provinces of Aleppo and Idlib. Most of the pro-government media outlets cites the Arabic-language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency as a main source of the information. According to AlMasdarNews: “Russian warships fired caliber rockets onto the command posts of the terrorists in western Aleppo, where Turkish, Saudi, Israeli, UK, and US officers are deployed to aid their operations,” Sputnik News Agency reported on Tuesday. Meanwhile, the Iranian Fars News Agency believes that it was on Wednesday: “The Russian warships fired three Caliber missiles at the foreign officers’ coordination operations room in Dar Ezza region in the Western part of Aleppo near Sam’an mountain, killing 30 Israeli and western officers,” the Arabic- language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency quoted battlefield source in Aleppo as saying on Wednesday. While there are no doubts that various ‘opposition’ and terrorist groups in Syria are trained, supplied and managed by foreign intelligence services (mostly US, Turkish and Saudi), the pro-government sources have not provided video or photo evidences in order to confirm this report. The Russian Ministry of Defense has not commented on the issue. southfront.org/30-foreign...icers-israeli-us-turkish- killed-in-missile-attack-in-aleppo-unconfirmed/ It's all leading up to something no sane person on this planet wishes to experience.
30 FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS (ISRAELI, US, TURKISH) KILLED IN MISSILE ATTACK IN ALEPPO – UNCONFIRMED
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#15. To: randge (#14)
If true, it's an ominous set of events. We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out. 30 FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS (ISRAELI, US, TURKISH) KILLED IN MISSILE ATTACK IN ALEPPO – UNCONFIRMED
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#16. To: FormerLurker (#15)
Y'all listen to Bert! If true, it's an ominous set of events. We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.
" As a citizen, I would hesitate to see any political party outlawed on the basis of its political ideology. However, if it is proven that an organization is an agent of foreign power, or in any way not a legitimate political party -- and I think the government is capable of proving that -- then that is another matter." - Ronald Reagan to House Un-American Activities Committee, October 23, 1947
#17. To: Dakmar (#16)
Sadly I remember when those videos weren't that old..
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#18. To: Dakmar (#16)
Great advice BTW. I'd also suggest looking into info on what side of the basement to run to if you have the chance to do it.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#19. To: FormerLurker (#17)
My generation, kids that were 10 years old in in 1975/1976 were treated to nonstop ZeroPopulationGrowth panic films, mass starvation because of too many factory workers and sport fishermen or something...
" As a citizen, I would hesitate to see any political party outlawed on the basis of its political ideology. However, if it is proven that an organization is an agent of foreign power, or in any way not a legitimate political party -- and I think the government is capable of proving that -- then that is another matter." - Ronald Reagan to House Un-American Activities Committee, October 23, 1947
#20. To: Dakmar (#19)
I was about 10 years older.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#21. To: FormerLurker (#20)
About the age for Duck and Cover? That early 60's propaganda was fierce, Mancini was brutal
" As a citizen, I would hesitate to see any political party outlawed on the basis of its political ideology. However, if it is proven that an organization is an agent of foreign power, or in any way not a legitimate political party -- and I think the government is capable of proving that -- then that is another matter." - Ronald Reagan to House Un-American Activities Committee, October 23, 1947
#22. To: FormerLurker (#9)
Of course neither Putin nor any other Russian leader would launch a pre-emptive attack against the US. HOWEVER, they would certainly defend themselves against a US attack against THEM. And THAT would lead to a very quick escalation across the globe. If it keeps going the way it is, I'd say the chances of it NOT happening are slim. Let's hope that Trump gets to be elected prior to anything of that sort reaching its logical conclusion. ========================================= Agreed on all counts. A war with Russia is far, far less likely under Trump than Hillary. That being said, a war with Russia between now and the Nov election would postpone any election and keep Obama in power. How desperate is Obama? I think he would leave office tonight if he could keep his pensions and connections intact. Putin won't attack without Peking.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#23. To: FormerLurker (#15)
========================================== Another (historically reliable) catalyst for world war is when multiple powerful nations face debt crisis they cannot reverse (e.g., bankrupt beyond repair). That includes China, US, Japan, all of the EU nations, and 95% of the rest of the world nations. If there is no financial solution, or way of avoiding both national and world bankruptcy, then that is as much a catalyst for world war as any single event of 'mistaken' small groups of agents and soldiers laying in a pile somewhere waiting for a response-in-kind. Consider: UN fears third leg of the global financial crisis, with epic debt defaults The third leg of the world's intractable depression is yet to come. If trade economists at the United Nations are right, the next traumatic episode may entail the greatest debt jubilee in history. It may also prove to be the definitive crisis of globalized capitalism, the demise of the liberal free-market orthodoxies promoted for almost forty years by the Bretton Woods institutions, the OECD, and the Davos fraternity. "Alarm bells have been ringing over the explosion of corporate debt levels in emerging economies, which now exceed $25 trillion. Damaging deflationary spirals cannot be ruled out," said the annual report of the UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD). If true, it's an ominous set of events. We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#24. To: FormerLurker, all, 4 (#10)
Iranian Rev Guard, Hezbollah, Christian Lebanese, Russians and Syrians are dying at the hands of the Israeli empire. Your mileage may vary.
"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning
#25. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#23)
Global war, global reset, new rules, same old master. No freedom if you're outside the matrix, total enslavement inside.
"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning
#26. To: Rotara (#25) (Edited)
Getting to know multicultural London wheee Embracing London is about much more than getting to grips with Britishness: the UK’s capital is one the world’s most multicultural cities. Roman soldiers, Huguenot silkweavers, Jamaican airmen, Bangladeshi sailors and a whole host of other people from around the world have helped to shape its history and its future gross :) 
" As a citizen, I would hesitate to see any political party outlawed on the basis of its political ideology. However, if it is proven that an organization is an agent of foreign power, or in any way not a legitimate political party -- and I think the government is capable of proving that -- then that is another matter." - Ronald Reagan to House Un-American Activities Committee, October 23, 1947
#27. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, X-15 (#8)
My opinion on that subject.... """Putin won't attack "BECAUSE" of Peking.""" Putin won't attack without Peking.
#28. To: Cynicom (#27)
My opinion on that subject.... """Putin won't attack "BECAUSE" of Peking.""" ================================================ That angle factors also in Putin's approach, and also into his restraint. If Putin gets desperate from being attacked by the US (possible now in the current regime control), or from facing losing control over his own regime, he WILL launch all his shit, regardless. Putin won't attack without Peking.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#29. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#28)
Excerpt from an ABC report.. "" The Russian Far East also holds resources that are valuable to an ever-growing China. The region is rich in natural resources such as oil, gas and timber. It is easier to send these goods to Asia instead of shipping them 3,000 miles to Moscow. The size of the Russian work force is shrinking as the country grows older. China’s young — and growing — population is more than able to fill the gap and exploit these resources. But there is no reason to believe that, over time, Moscow will simply let the region slip from its grasp. The territory at stake includes all of Russia’s access to the Pacific Ocean. Vladivostok is Russia’s only warm-water Pacific port. Nikolayevsk, at the mouth of the Amur River, processes most of Siberia’s remaining exports. Both are well within former Chinese territory. The local Russian population is increasingly nervous. The governor of Primoskiy Kray, Yevgenii Nazdratenko, on June 1 called for relocating 5 million Russians from European Russia to the Far East. Police in Russian cities are responding with aggressive ethnic profiling. Law enforcement personnel check the documentation of foreigners, and they actively target ethnic Asians. The policy results from a widespread feeling — as far away as St. Petersburg — that China is the source of undesirable immigration. Peter Zeihan covers Russian issues for Stratfor.com, an Internet provider of global intelligence. Researcher Colin McRoberts contributed to this analysis from St. Petersburg, Russia. ""
#30. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#28)
That's like saying Obama will start a nuclear war to protect his regime. It's not about an individual "protecting his regime", it's about a NATION defending THEMSELVES against attack. Do you think Putin would be stupid enough to trigger the destruction of all life on earth due to vanity? I COULD see the US doing something like that, if HILLARY is elected, MAYBE, if there are no safeguards in place to prevent it. If Putin gets desperate from being attacked by the US (possible now in the current regime control), or from facing losing control over his own regime, he WILL launch all his shit, regardless.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#31. To: Cynicom (#27)
PEKING would HELP Russia is more like it. Are you ignorant of the fact they are pissed off at the US over its meddling in the South China Sea? """Putin won't attack "BECAUSE" of Peking."""
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#32. To: FormerLurker (#31)
PEKING would HELP Russia is more like it. ======================================== Yes, because China is geographically connected to Russia, hence attacking Russia would cause much more damage than attacking the US. Instability (especially global economic bankruptcy, as I already pointed out) brewing in the general populations caused by unemployment and lack of basic life requirements (food, shelter, personal security) is the great unknown here, and perhaps the real catalyst behind the next world war. No leader facing their government's total collapse will hesitate going to war if it means doing so to preserve their country's survival. We are fast approaching that now, regardless of who or what form of government is in power at the time it happens. IOW, hungry and desperate people launch nuclear weapons on other hungry and desperate people. """Putin won't attack "BECAUSE" of Peking."""
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#33. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, FormerLurker, Cynicom, Dakmar, Rotara, X-15, Tatarewicz (#32)
More perspective on the Kalibr missile attack north of Aleppo from Global Research: By Prof Michel Chossudovsky Global Research, September 22, 2016 Region: Middle East & North Africa Theme: 9/11 & 'War on Terrorism', US NATO War Agenda In-depth Report: SYRIA: NATO'S NEXT WAR? print 216 11 2 233 U.S.-Russia-Syria 2 The US and its allies had established a Field Operations Room in the Aleppo region integrated by intelligence personnel. Until it was targeted by a Russian missile attack on September 20, this “semi-secret” facility was operated by US, British, Israeli, Turkish, Saudi and Qatari intelligence personnel. According to Fars News, this intelligence facility was attacked by Russia in the immediate wake of the US Air Strikes against Syrian SAA forces at Deir Ezzor in support of the ISIS-Daesh terrorists. “The Russian warships stationed in Syria’s coastal waters targeted and destroyed a foreign military operations room, killing over two dozen Israeli and western intelligence officers” “The Russian warships fired three Caliber missiles at the foreign officers’ coordination operations room in Dar Ezza region in the Western part of Aleppo near Sam’an mountain, killing 30 Israeli and western officers,” The operations room was located in the Western part of Aleppo province in the middle of sky-high Sam’an mountain and old caves. The region is deep into a chain of mountains. The Fars report conveys the impression that the Operations Room was largely integrated by Israelis. In all likelihood, the US was “calling the shots” and the facility was coordinated by Washington’s regional allies, in close liaison with (and on behalf) of the US military and intelligence apparatus. With the exception of the Fars report and Sputnik Arabic, this Russian attack directed against a US-led coalition intelligence facility has not made the headlines. In fact there has been a total news blackout. The accuracy of the Fars report is yet to be fully ascertained. What is significant is that the Operations Room situated in rebel held territory in the Aleppo region is manned by the main state sponsors of ISIS Daesh and Al Qaeda inside Syria, namely the US, UK (largely involved in the air raids), plus four countries of the region: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Qatar. The respective roles of the four regional countries relating to recruitment, training, logistics and the financing of terrorism have been amply documented. This Operations Room (i.e Combat Information Center) in the Aleppo region as well field operations rooms in other regions (in territories controlled by rebel forces) are in permanent liaison with the US, Israeli and allied military command and control. We will recall that in October 2015, Obama announced that he was dispatching US Special Forces to operate on the ground inside Syria in the alleged counterterrorism operation against ISIS-Daesh. These US Special Forces would “involve fewer than 50 Special Operations advisers, who will work with resistance forces battling the Islamic State in northern Syria but will not engage in direct combat” (WP, October 30, 2015). They will not engage in combat, they will be involved in”advisory” activities, –i.e. both within rebel formations as well as in the field operations rooms. In recent months (May 2016), Washington confirmed that another 250 US special forces were to be deployed on the ground in Syria. A select number of intelligence officials were no doubt assigned to the field operations rooms. This dispatch of US special forces coincided with the influx of thousand of newly recruited “jihadist mercenaries” who joined the ranks of the various terror formations. “Thousands of terrorists” were reported to have crossed the Turkey-Syria border in early May 2016, to be deployed against government forces in the Aleppo region. Voice of America (undated) www.voanews.com/a/us-to-send-special- forces-to-syria-to-fight-islamic-state/3029684.html The Operations Room in the Aleppo region was used to coordinate actions on the ground, drone surveillance as well as air-strikes. According to the Fars report, the intelligence personnel assigned to the US led coalition Operations Room destroyed by Russia was involved in coordinating US and allied sponsored terrorist attacks in Aleppo and Idlib. In all likelihood, the Operations Room destroyed by Russia was also involved in the planning and implementation of the Deir Ezzor attack by the US Air force against Syrian SAA forces, carried out in the immediate wake of the Geneva ceasefire agreement. The Syria based “Operations Rooms” were also in liaison with US and allied command as well as Special Forces on the ground (including Western military personnel hired by private mercenary companies) embedded within the various rebel terror groups including ISIS-Daesh and Al Nusra. The existence and location of the Aleppo region Operations Room facility must have been known and (until recently) tolerated by both the Syrian government and the Russian military. And until recently no action was taken. According to the Fars News Agency report (yet to be fully confirmed), it would appear that Moscow chose to target the Aleppo region (“semi- secret”) Operations Room in the immediate wake the Pentagon’s decision to order the USAF airstrikes against Syrian government forces involved in combating the ISIS-Daesh terrorists in Deir Ezzor. The Russian attack against a US-NATO intelligence facility reported by Fars News Agency has not been picked up by the media, nor has it been acknowledged at the official level. Assuming that the Fars New Report is accurate, the Russian attack against the US led coalition operations room has significant implications. Does it create a precedent? Russia attacks a US-led intelligence facility in reprisal for the Deir Ezzor attack against Syrian forces It constitutes a potentially dangerous watershed in the evolution of the war on Syria, which should be seen within the broader context of military escalation. Yet at the same time the Operations Room is an undeclared intelligence facility. Washington has not acknowledged it and Moscow has not provided an official confirmation of the attack. The Russian media is mum on the subject and so is Washington. Neither side has interest in making this issue public. [Emphasis in original] www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-coalition-intelligence-operations-room- inside-syria-destroyed-by-russian-missile-attack-thirty-israeli-american- british-turkish-saudi-qatari-intelligence-officials-killed-report/5547099? utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles U.S. Coalition Intelligence “Operations Room” Inside Syria, Destroyed by Russian Missile Attack: Thirty Israeli, American, British, Turkish, Saudi, Qatari Intelligence Officials Killed, Report
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#34. To: randge (#33)
So it has begun.
"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning
#35. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#32)
Have you ever heard of the term, Mutual Assured Destruction? Apparently many of our top "leaders" are unfamiliar with the concept. Whoever launches first will be signing not only THEIR own death warrant, but that of their entire nation. IOW, hungry and desperate people launch nuclear weapons on other hungry and desperate people.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#36. To: Rotara, All (#34)
In reality, it BEGAN long ago. The seeds for the final war were sown long ago, not in our time. We are but a short time viewer, watching the toxic weed grow So it has begun.
#37. To: randge, formerlurker (#33)
Assuming that the Fars New Report is accurate, the Russian attack against the US led coalition operations room has significant implications. Does it create a precedent? Russia attacks a US-led intelligence facility in reprisal for the Deir Ezzor attack against Syrian forces It constitutes a potentially dangerous watershed in the evolution of the war on Syria, which should be seen within the broader context of military escalation. ========================================== Whatever op command post was destroyed, and despite of who was killed, it was being operated in Syria, without the permission of the Syrian government. Russia attacked an unauthorized military command post operating in a country it was not authorized to be operating in. THAT is why there is no media coverage of it. The Russian attack against a US-NATO intelligence facility reported by Fars News Agency has not been picked up by the media, nor has it been acknowledged at the official level.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#38. To: FormerLurker (#35)
Have you ever heard of the term, Mutual Assured Destruction? Apparently many of our top "leaders" are unfamiliar with the concept. Whoever launches first will be signing not only THEIR own death warrant, but that of their entire nation. ================================ Fully aware. Ultimately potent is 'The Dead Man's Trigger.' end IOW, hungry and desperate people launch nuclear weapons on other hungry and desperate people.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#39. To: Cynicom (#36)
If I push you and push you and push you, sooner or later you'll take swing at me. Top Russian military officials have warned that the U.S. deliberately killed 62 servicemen in order to provoke a war against Russia.
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#40. To: randge (#39)
This denizen is tooo olde, tooo mired in history to display a reaction of any kind. Just too damned olde. If I push you and push you and push you, sooner or later you'll take swing at me.
#41. To: Cynicom (#40)
I'm feeling rather olde today as well. Hope you and your family stay safe. Things are not looking well from where I sit.
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#42. To: randge (#39)
My misfortune was to be dumped into a mans world, the real world, as an ignorant kid, over 65 years ago. Saw things, was told things, participated in things that adults had problems handling. It was a puzzle, if you were concerned, one could try to put the damned thing together, or as most did, just ignore what the puzzle might look like if put together. Or, one could soldier on with a blank mind, hoping you survived.
#43. To: randge (#33)
West's Jew-controlled media dare not mention this because it would disclose the duplicity involved in the West aiding rebels while professing to be fighting them; background being that American neocons and other Sayanim successfully back members of Congress in their election campaigns who in turn must go along with Israel's need to have Arabs fighting among themselves rather than helping Palestinians get back lands from Israeli squatters in the illegal Israeli state. Much of the West's media is owned by Israel-supporting Jews; media disclosing this duplicity would face advertising boycott by Jew-owned enterprises. Russian attack against a US-NATO intelligence facility ... has not been picked up by the media
#44. To: Tatarewicz (#43)
You can bet these events are lighting up the dual-loyalty networks at Langley and the Pentagon. And we're using the term "dual-loyalty" generously. There's often no "dual" about it.
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#45. To: All (#0) (Edited)
As you read these words that World War III has begun, and whose first major battlefield is in Syria, the main belligerent in this conflict, the United States, is furiously trying to cover-up its unprovoked attack upon an aid convoy—and whose military leaders are in open rebellion against President Obama’s authority when they said this week that that may or we may not comply with the ceasefire agreed to between the Russians and Americans. From the many messages from our sources we’ve been able read about this war, as well as a growing number of press reports, we’re not able to tell you whose in charge of America anymore—as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dunford, said this week that “for us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia”, but was immediately countered by US Secretary of State John Kerry who demanded that Russian planes stop flying in Syria right now. As Russian has no intention of abiding by any American ultimatum, “someone” in the United States ordered their missile shield activated against Russia—and that Russia had previously warned if that happened would lead to nuclear war. Immediately after the United States activated their missile shield though, President Obama fired two of his top generals--Major General Wayne Grigsby and Joint Chiefs of Staff Brigadier General Michael Bobeck—while at the same time “someone” ordered an entire battalion of US Marine infantry troops back to base in North Carolina and placed them on “Alert Status”. At the same time this turmoil is shaking the power corridors of America, Russian intelligence reports are warning of an expected “Red October” event to occur soon that will plunge Russia into direct and open warfare with the United States—and that my other Sisters will (hopefully) inform you more about this coming week. But my greatest concern right now is YOU—because you’ve not only been left in the dark about what’s happening, you’ve also been “conditioned” to ignore any warning being given to you about what’s happening, and without your knowing the truth will leave you defenseless. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/ Military brass is aware that if they don't act in Israel's interest the Israeli lobby will demand their dismissal but acting during the President's remaining months gets them fired. Sorcha's two cents:
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