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Title: Three days till we surrender control of the internet
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Published: Sep 28, 2016
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Post Date: 2016-09-28 17:41:48 by titorite
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So how yall felling about that? Anybody wondering if governments like China or Sudia Arabia already have agents inside ICANN just waiting for the moment? 3 days... 3 days and we lose authority over what our tax dollars paid to create.

Gotta wonder if their is any truth to that killswitch legend. I mean I don't believe it but I do believe in human greed and incompetence fucking up things.

What do yall think? Will it go over smooth, will something happen, do ya even care one way or the other?

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#4. To: titorite (#0)

To be clear, what is being surrendered is not control of any networking traffic infrastructure. As I understand it, it is only authority to decide what web addresses translate to what IP addresses.

Normally, that is a substantial amount of power, and that is presently the case. One domain that comes to mind libertyreserve.com. This was a finance site similar to paypal that allowed people to send and receive funds to one another. I had (and maybe still have) a liberty reserve account with almost $40 in it, but the feds seized liberty reserve because they were not laundering money according to properly prescribed federal protocols. Or however they'd prefer to describe it.

Even though the web site was hosted somewhere in central America, the feds were able to seize the domain name, and you can see now what you get when you visit libertyreserve.com. Because the feds have control, it can do this.

Will the ICANN xfer make it harder to the feds to seize & shutdown web sites like this? I imagine it will, but will it make it much harder, I don't know. I'm sure agreements are in place to permit govs to do this sort of thing when desired.

However, there is another possible long term result of this, and that may be the eventual decentralization of the entire ICANN/Domain name registration system.

Enter the "blockchain" technology. Blockchains were devised and currently exist to facilitate bitcoin. A blockchain is essentially a highly redundant internet database. Many, many copies of this DB exist all over the net, and one is only considered to own bitcoins if all of the DB's say you do. Any transactions are registered with one "node" of this blockchain, and the transaction is then copied to all other nodes over the net, and while one or 2 nodes could be fooled and passed fake information saying I was a bitcoin millionaire, it's impossible to do this for all nodes on the whole internet, and the blockchain system would eventually figure out that the 2 nodes were fooled with fake data and it would self repair, and I'd be poor again.

In this way, the whole blockchain system is completely decentralized but also completely secure, so no government or other entity can seize bitcoins belonging to anyone.

So what's this got to do with ICANN & domain names?

Blockchain tech can be applied to other uses. In the same way blockchain tech is saying who owns what bitcoins, blockchain tech could also be used to determine who own what domain name. Everything would be restricted by use of encryption, so when one person sells or transfers a domain name to another, they need to unlock, transfer, and relock the domain name for the new owner.

Using such a system, no gov has the power to seize any domain name unless the owner consents to it, or (alternatively) the thieving party is able to obtain the private key pertaining to the domain name. Ergo, under such a system, ICANN would become obsolete. Neither the USA nor any international body would have any control over domain names.

Sure there are ramifications that would need to be addressed. The loss of encryption keys, and cybersquatters that might register any and all domain names for free with the hope of selling them which is done now, though they must pay for the registration under ICANN. But such issues can be remedied.

Blockchain tech can be applied to other things as well, such as copyrighting works, land ownership, diplomas & certificates.... perhaps about everything related to information that is currently managed by governments big and small, including of course domain name ownership. Imagine a world where many such services no longer need a governing authority to manage them?

Domain names could be first (well, second after bitcoin) use of blockchain tech. If this international body starts to play havoc with domain names for whatever reason, expected or unexpected, I would look to the internet software development community to create a blockchain based replacement for ICANN.

So.... I'm not too worried about it in the long run. Technology is growing at an ever increasing pace, and our world will be dragged along with it, kicking and screaming if need be.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-09-28   18:42:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks for the overview. There is some fears being expressed that ICANN/globalists will be able to shutdown certain alternative media websites. I don't know what the validity of that may be. Time may tell. Hopefully, that won't happen.

ratcat  posted on  2016-09-28   23:05:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There is some fears being expressed that ICANN/globalists will be able to shutdown certain alternative media websites.

No, they could not / cannot shut down the websites per se. The web site information would still be available on the net. The most they could do is steal the domain name and have it point to some other place.

If there is any kind of electronic social injustice, that's when the net community, which is generally anti-authoritarian, can employ countermeasures. Any remedy would not be instant, but just as thepiratebay.com has been resilient in staying online in spite of authoritarian crackdowns (regardless of what one thinks of the pirate bay), a solution will be forthcoming.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-09-28   23:46:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There is a shakeup happening in the conservative radio world, affecting Clear Channel stations.

http://endtimeheadlines.org/2016/09/has-purge-begun-popular-talk-radio-host-of-20-million-listeners-shut-down/

Has Purge Begun? Popular Talk Radio Host of 20 Million listeners Shut Down!

29 September, 2016

Has the purge begun? According to recent reports, Radio talk show host Michael Savage claims that his nationally syndicated radio show feed was abruptly shut down during a discussion of Hillary Clinton’s health. The conservative gadfly, author, and raconteur who earned a Ph.D. in nutritional ethnomedicine was in the middle of a riff about whether Hillary Clinton is suffering from Parkinson’s disease when powerhouse WABC radio in New York reportedly replaced Savage with a low-rated local broadcast.

Shortly thereafter, affiliate stations across the across the country allegedly pulled down the live feed in favor of taped programming of previous installments of The Savage Nation.

ratcat  posted on  2016-09-29   21:41:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

EXCLUSIVE – Michael Savage Reacts to Being Pulled From Radio ...

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-10-02   4:35:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#20. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#19)

Thanks for the link. Maybe he'll start making more public statements about it now - so more people will find out what's going on.

ratcat  posted on  2016-10-03 23:46:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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