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Title: Is Bush DOSing LibertyForum.org?
Source: none
URL Source: http://home.aanet.com.au/qarc/resume.doc
Published: Feb 22, 2006
Author: Self
Post Date: 2006-02-22 04:43:12 by Archie
Keywords: LibertyForum.org?, DOSing, Bush
Views: 703
Comments: 71

I moved to Oz from the US in 2002. Lately, http://www.LibertyForum.org (LF) has been beset by SQL errors, usually of the nature, 'Too many connections', but doing almost a core dump complete with other error messages. Now one might suspect these errors are truly due to 'too many connections', perhaps from http://www.whatreallyhappened.com 's frequently redirectly their own traffic over to LF. Except I live in Oz, both the other sites are in the US, and the problem actually gets worse when the Yanks are beddy bye.

Thus, it seems consistent to me that the problem is Bush administration-generated. In the time the US is wakeful, there is lots of 'net traffic, and less of the DOS gets through. At night (in the US, but not in Oz), there is less US-centric 'net traffic, and more of the DOSes get through.

The reason Bush et al would want to shut us all down is obvious. Sever knowledgeable communication, and stifle dissent. I mean, suppose all we ever had for our information input was Bush's State of the Union Speachs, and its spinoffs?

Well, that seems to be what it is coming to.

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#5. To: Archie, rottenjohnh (#0)

If they're working on it, it would have been nice for someone to come over here and let us know, or send word through email, etc.

Anthem  posted on  2006-02-22   10:19:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Anthem, Zipporah (#5)

If they're working on it, it would have been nice for someone to come over here and let us know, or send word through email, etc.

Zip has it right I think. Whatever work that may be being done to the site is most likely being done by the mysterious admin "mike" I think his name is or someone like him who does the archiving every so often. These people apparently never reply to the mods and admins we know though are known to be online at times.

rottenjohnh  posted on  2006-02-22   11:29:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: rottenjohnh (#16)

Zip has it right I think. Whatever work that may be being done to the site is most likely being done by the mysterious admin "mike" I think his name is or someone like him who does the archiving every so often. These people apparently never reply to the mods and admins we know though are known to be online at times.

IMO that is the most bizarre issue.. who are they?? I cannot imagine a site running for how long without someone knowing who owns it and who is the sysop who does maintenance etc.. it just doesnt make sense.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-22   11:40:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Zipporah (#18)

IMO that is the most bizarre issue.. who are they?? I cannot imagine a site running for how long without someone knowing who owns it and who is the sysop who does maintenance etc.. it just doesnt make sense.

It doesn't/didn't make sense but I suppose that was all part of the intrigue of the joint. The mystery of John Deere, his disappearance and who was behind the scenes still providing maintenance up until recently. The domain was paid up for another 12 months in November bringing it current to Feb07.

rottenjohnh  posted on  2006-02-23   0:43:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: rottenjohnh (#24)

It doesn't/didn't make sense but I suppose that was all part of the intrigue of the joint. The mystery of John Deere, his disappearance and who was behind the scenes still providing maintenance up until recently. The domain was paid up for another 12 months in November bringing it current to Feb07.

Some anonymous benefactor.. too strange..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-23   0:45:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Zipporah, rottenjohnh, christine, alpowolf, Anthem, buffycat, Fred Mertz, BTP Holdings, abbracadabra, HOUNDDAWG, buckeroo, The 7th MJS2U2, Mind_Virus (#25)

I've noticed that the [LF] site has been good for at least 6 hours

It has been heartwarming and encouraging to see so many familiars. I too USED to notice an occasional time window, sometimes after trying some of LF's other links, such as Latest Articles, rather than Self Search. But nothing on any of LF's links in the last two days.

I imagine it will be very difficult to contact any of the other LFers who are still stuck over there waiting for LF to clear up, and not having any idea where to go. I only found this place because with the increasing frequency of LF's problems, I was moved to search out articles, and found Mind_Virus' "Why I am leaving ...", in which he mentioned this site.

I dunno. Maybe Mike would put up a flag on WRH, but I think it might have to be some story, maybe like this one, except it seems there are several explanations less intriguing (and probably more accurate) than mine. And anyway, is this really the best alternative to LF? Not necessarily in terms of quality, but more in terms of look and feel?

Hey Rotten. Can you be more specific about exactly which six hours during the day?

Archie  posted on  2006-02-23   3:08:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Archie (#26)

Can you be more specific about exactly which six hours during the day?

There's something else the problem there now as the SQL errors are saying something different for the last 36 hours or so. Before that the site seemed to be good from about midnight my time to about 6-7am and then the dramas would kick in pretty much consistantly after that save a few breaks in between. Yesterday morning our time before it finally collapsed for good I woke up early and got nearly two hours unaffected posting time there. If you're looking for other LF'ers there are quite a few at http://www.nolajbs.net/forum/index .php .

rottenjohnh  posted on  2006-02-23   3:44:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: rottenjohnh (#27)

Thanks Rotten. It's 4:47am Friday, and LF is totally stuffed. I just registered at NOLAJBS, although for some reason a lady had already registered 'Archie' two years ago, made two posts total in all the time since, and that was that. So I'm trying 'ArchieJ'. Looks like NOLAJBS has closer look and feel to it.

Archie  posted on  2006-02-23   13:48:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Archie, Zipporah, rottenjohnh, christine, alpowolf, Anthem, buffycat, Fred Mertz, BTP Holdings, abbracadabra, HOUNDDAWG, buckeroo, The 7th MJS2U2, Mind_Virus (#28)

I just registered here. Was already registered over at http://nolajbs.net last fall -- there had been some controversy at LF -- can't remember what it was.

Nice to see so many familiar names at both forums -- names that goes back to TOS!

For me, it's back to lurking. :)

Maybe I'm paranoid, but I am really concerned that shutting down LF was not just a prank and that something may be up. I will get very paranoid if whatreallyhappened goes down.

TruePatriot  posted on  2006-02-24   11:45:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TruePatriot (#30)

Nice to see so many familiar names at both forums -- names that goes back to TOS!

For me, it's back to lurking. :)

Maybe I'm paranoid, but I am really concerned that shutting down LF was not just a prank and that something may be up. I will get very paranoid if whatreallyhappened goes down.

Welcome to 4.. glad you've joined us.

I find it odd that LF has been down for so long.. I may be wrong but I think it's bit the dust.

Most everyone here with a few exceptions are from TOS.. of course all the smartest ones are here :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-24   12:05:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Zipporah (#37)

What I wanna know is, can we say any damn thing we want to say without getting thrown off?

One of the things which made LF a target for the Fascist ZioNAZIS is that we could say anything about the little inbred animals.

People can talk about SQL errors all they want. LF was attacked and deliberately brought down.

So, how good is the software at this place?

JRadcliffe  posted on  2006-02-24   12:21:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: JRadcliffe (#39)

Zip and I are very hands off mods. We very much have the same philosophy as far as that goes as did LF. What we don't want here is paid shills and statists and the neo-crazies who come on here to attack us, all of our posters, and the forum as a whole because we do allow discussion of that topic.

christine  posted on  2006-02-24   12:30:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#41)

You guys sound extremely cool.

I am glad to be here.

JRadcliffe  posted on  2006-02-24   12:37:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: JRadcliffe (#42)

You guys sound extremely cool.

I am glad to be here.

Same here.

The vanity posts over at NOLAJBS are getting old.

I don't mind them but for christ sakes branch out a little.

The success of a board depends on a good balance of commentary.

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-24   12:43:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Mind_Virus (#45)

Well, there's no rating system over here so there can't be endless bites of storage used to complain ENDLESSLY about that.;-)

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