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Title: Turkey Has Declared War On Syria – Does This Mean That World War 3 Is About To Erupt In The Middle East?
Source: The Economic Collapse
URL Source: http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/ ... ut-to-erupt-in-the-middle-east
Published: Nov 29, 2016
Author: Michael Snyder
Post Date: 2016-12-01 08:41:49 by randge
Keywords: Erdogan, Turkey, Syria, Declaration of war
Views: 310
Comments: 19

Turkey Has Declared War On Syria – Does This Mean That World War 3 Is About To Erupt In The Middle East?
By Michael Snyder, on November 29th, 2016

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has just announced that the only reason Turkish military forces have entered northern Syria is to “end the rule of the tyrant al-Assad”. By publicly proclaiming that Turkey intends to use military force to overthrow the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Erdogan has essentially declared war on the Syrian government. Of course this puts a member of NATO in direct military conflict with Russia, since Russia is working very hard to prop up the Assad regime. If all-out war breaks out between Turkey and Russia, could that be the spark that causes World War 3 to erupt in the Middle East? And once Turkey and Russia start fighting, would the United States and the rest of NATO be dragged into the conflict?

The big mainstream news networks in the western world are almost completely ignoring what Erdogan said on Tuesday, but without a doubt this is major news. The following comes from a Turkish news source…

The Turkish military launched its operations in Syria to end the rule of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, President Recep Tayyip Erdoan said Nov. 29.

“In my estimation, nearly 1 million people have died in Syria. These deaths are still continuing without exception for children, women and men. Where is the United Nations? What is it doing? Is it in Iraq? No. We preached patience but could not endure in the end and had to enter Syria together with the Free Syrian Army [FSA],” Erdoan said at the first Inter-Parliamentary Jerusalem Platform Symposium in Istanbul.

Turkish military forces initially invaded northern Syria on August 24th, and at the time we were all told that the purpose of the invasion was to “fight ISIS”, but now Erdogan is telling us something completely different.

Breitbart is one of the few U.S. news outlets that is reporting on this story, and I want you to read the following quotes from Erdogan that come from a Breitbart article that was posted on Tuesday very, very carefully…

“Why did we enter? We do not have an eye on Syrian soil. The issue is to provide lands to their real owners. That is to say we are there for the establishment of justice. We entered there to end the rule of the tyrant al- Assad who terrorizes with state terror,” Erdogan continued, insisting his forces were not in Syria for “any other reason.”

The Daily Sabah notes that Erdogan spoke with Russian President Vladimir Putin about Syria during two telephone calls last week. Since Russia launched a massive military operation to secure Bashar Assad in power, Putin would presumably have been interested in anything Erdogan had to say about toppling the regime in Damascus, and probably would not have kept quiet about it.

If the Turkish military is only in Syria to end the Assad regime, then presumably they will stay there until the job is done.

And this puts Turkey into a direct military conflict with Russia, Iran and Hezbollah since all three of them are already fighting very hard to help the Assad regime.

Of course there is another reason why Turkey is in northern Syria, and that is to fight the Kurds. In fact, the Kurds and Turkey are both rushing to capture a little city northeast of Aleppo called al-Bab which is currently controlled by the Islamic State…

Their immediate challenge is securing al-Bab, an Islamic State-held city northeast of Aleppo which Kurdish-led fighters are racing to take, and which lies close to the front lines of Assad’s allies.

Turkish-backed forces have made rapid gains since August, but largely through less heavily populated areas. Urban warfare around al-Bab is already taking a heavier toll. Five Turkish soldiers have been killed in the past week alone, three of them in a suspected Syrian government air strike.

“Right now the question is whether Russia will allow Turkey to seize al-Bab,” said the Muntasir Billah Brigade official.

But most people in the western world don’t know that Turkish soldiers are already dying in Syria.

Here in the United States, tens of millions of Americans are hailing a new era of “peace and prosperity” now that Donald Trump has won the election, but the truth is that one false move in Syria could easily raise tensions between the United States and Russia to the highest level that we have seen since the Cuban missile crisis back in the 1960s.

If Erdogan would have just stayed out of Syria we wouldn’t be in such a precarious situation. Unfortunately, the president of Turkey is a narcissistic lunatic, and he dreams of a day when the old Ottoman Empire will once again be restored.

But his delusions of greatness threaten to make the Middle East even more unstable than it already has been. In addition to his remarks above, on Tuesday Erdogan also called on all Muslims globally “to embrace the Palestinian cause and protect Jerusalem”…

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has urged Muslims to defend the Palestinian cause, striking a tough stance on Israel despite improved ties between the two nations.

The president of majority Muslim Turkey said Tuesday that “it is the common duty of all Muslims to embrace the Palestinian cause and protect Jerusalem” and that safeguarding the Al-Aqsa Mosque should not be left to children armed with nothing but stones. Located in the Old City of Jerusalem, the hilltop compound is sacred to Muslims and Jews.

Most people in the western world pay very little attention to Erdogan, but the truth is that he is a madman that is often referred to as “Turkey’s version of Adolf Hitler”. He is extremely ambitious, extremely nationalistic, and he is a warmonger. That is a very dangerous combination, and I believe that it is only a matter of time before he starts a major war in the Middle East.

Somebody needs to get this guy under control, but unfortunately the Obama administration has been very hesitant to confront Erdogan about his outrageous behavior.

When Erdogan openly stated that the Turkish military is in Syria to overthrow the Assad regime on Tuesday, that was like lighting a match in a room that has already been doused with propane.

He needs to immediately retract those comments, because his unique brand of lunacy has now brought us dangerously close to the start of World War 3.


Poster Comment:

"When Erdogan openly stated that the Turkish military is in Syria to overthrow the Assad regime on Tuesday, that was like lighting a match in a room that has already been doused with propane."

Admitting a state like Turkey to NATO without a governor on the machine was always a gamble in the long run.

Like WWI and WWII, we can see the errors in the rear view mirror once the damage has been done.

By ignorance or by design, that swamp in Washington headed by our cool-smoking Lider has let matters slip possibly beyond control.

Most have no idea how close to the edge we are.

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#1. To: randge (#0)

Does This Mean That World War 3 Is About To Erupt In The Middle East?

No.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-12-01   9:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

Probably no.

Because someone with half a brain will soon have to put a muzzle on Erdogan.

Today we have regular US troops opposed to Russian forces in Syria. The Russians bombed our intelligence HQ west of Aleppo five weeks ago with the loss of American personnel. Turkey is a NATO member on a war footing.

If the soup's not warm enough for you, we can heat it up some. Erdogan will be happy to do so.

evahthang go' be aw-rite

randge  posted on  2016-12-01   9:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: randge (#2)

Well now young man, as a junior birdman, afore and during Korean thing, the multitudes were gnashing their teeth that WWIII was at the door with raping and pillaging in mind. How some ever, within the military, there was no such stirring in the loins.

Along came Vietnam, rerun of Korea, lot of people dead, money spent, no WWIII.

Little Adolph Bush invades, bombs, burns lot of people in Middle East, lot of huffing and puffing, no WWIII.

Moral of this nonsense, the main actors are not on stage, the prop men are still setting the stage.

However, one might consider excavating a bomb shelter in'near future????

Some reason not serious today, tad foolish, olde age I spect.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-12-01   11:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

the prop men are still setting the stage

Yeah, they never quit, do they?

Both sides.

Some day one side will miscalculate and tip the manure pile over in a fashion that's not advantageous to us.

The warning light's on amber - perenially.

evahthang go' be aw-rite

randge  posted on  2016-12-01   12:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: randge (#4)

Am tad loony or senile or both today, just cant get serious about WWIII.

Two world wars, both were long in the offing, both were predicted as to relevant time/conditions, long in advance.

case in point...

We have three world powers capable of igniting WWIII, China, Russia and US. One has to assess the ODDS first of any one of the three willing to do so.

By accident or misstep is possible but very very remote.

By intent????? Not like WWI and WWII where the situation could be controlled. Now, once started, it is for all the marbles or NONE.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-12-01   12:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#0)

Google search returns 37,400,000 'events' that could start WW3 including leftover Nazi's beneath the South Pole and UFO's. I am not feeling it over this scenario.

www.google.com/#q=w hat+will+cause+world+war+3

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2016-12-01   12:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: X-15 (#6)

Well, Syria ain't the South Pole, and Americans (who were only covertly there & therefore don't count) have already been killed by Russian fire.

We lost one guy over Thanksgiving to an IED in Syria. Let's hope the next one or two or ten isn't due to Russian action, mistaken or otherwise. That might occasion a snarl.

And I don't know what the hell we're doing there anyway, resurrecting Wilson's dream of a Kurdish republic? Now there's something to die for. /s

evahthang go' be aw-rite

randge  posted on  2016-12-01   13:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: X-15, randge (#6)

During Korean thing, I was a tad younger than now, thot WWIII would start tomorrow, or at least next week. Then when I got put into mix of things, found out from olde timers that there was no sweat, if there was anything in the offing, there would be no surprise, there would be a warning, internally, not externally.

Case in point. Military, not government, started sending dependents home from Pacific Islands in June 1941, six months before war. This effort was NOT lost on the olde timers.

WWIII by intent or accident? Intent would be very difficult to conceal because all involved want to survive, no exceptions.

Even Obungle having the football does NOT mean he can push a button and start the war. Not one man. There are disconnects between the slack jawed jackass and war.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-12-01   14:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#0)

The ball is in Russia's court whether anyone admits it, or likes it, or not.

Will they live with a partitioned Syria and protect their deep sea port, and necessarily or not Assad.


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-12-01   15:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rotara (#9)

With what they've brought to bear there, it looks like they are there for the long haul and for the whole hog.

We now have to wait to see how the next administration fits into this thing.

evahthang go' be aw-rite

randge  posted on  2016-12-01   17:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: randge (#10)

My worthless opinion is that Trump will start a slow disengagement, with containment being a goal.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-12-01   17:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#11)

Yer worthy opinion is as always carefully noted.

evahthang go' be aw-rite

randge  posted on  2016-12-01   17:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: randge, Cynicom (#12)

No one is talking about what the Zionist regime in Izzy is thinking about Erdogan and Turkey at this moment. His bluster doesn't fit the paradigm. Things are truly at a near peak of bizarreness right now.


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-12-01   17:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rotara (#13)

Things are truly at a near peak of bizarreness right now.

Turks are blood letting opportunistic bastards.

They sat out WWII until the very end, then got in to share in the spoils.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-12-01   18:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

Excellent perspective, thank you Brother. You're a good man, Cyni. I really like you a lot.


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-12-01   18:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#1)

More likely Erdo's Syria incursion is to keep Turkey's military busy with other things than trying to depose him.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2016-12-02   1:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Tatarewicz (#16)

More likely Erdo's Syria incursion is to keep Turkey's military busy with other things than trying to depose him.

Indeed. Excellent observation.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-12-02   2:37:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#17)

Erdo pulled back after getting a talking to by Putin (on phone):

The Russian statement on that call was sparse...

"I will take that statement back if you give me a ceasefire deal in Aleppo," Erdogan told President Putin.

"Screw you," was the response.

Erdogan's statement, aimed at his supporters in Turkey and elsewhere, created a legal mess for his troops. The attempt to sell a retreat from it for some gain was harshly rejected by Russia. Now all Erdogan could do was to take his statement back with no gain at all. This was quite a loss of face for him - a well deserved one.

The game Erdogan tried would probably have worked with Merkel, or some other EU politician. Russia will have none of it. No means no. When Russia says stay out of Al-Bab it means stay out of Al-Bab. With regard to Syria Erdogan now has to do what he is told to do. He was just publicly lectured about that again. Still, I doubt that he really learned the lesson.

russia-insider.com/en/politics/russia-again-disciplines-wannabe-sultan/ri17964

Tatarewicz  posted on  2016-12-03   4:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#14)

They sat out WWII until the very end, then got in to share in the spoils.

Another important fact from history that is NOT taught in our schools, nor published in the "books of learning". Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge.

Phant2000  posted on  2016-12-03   6:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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