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Title: 20 Million Copies Later, Vatican Says Don't Read 'Da Vinci Code'
Source: LA Times
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw ... 502233.story?coll=la-home-head
Published: Mar 18, 2005
Author: Tracy Wilkinson
Post Date: 2005-03-18 07:00:05 by crack monkey
Keywords: Million, Vatican, Copies
Views: 126
Comments: 8

20 Million Copies Later, Vatican Says Don't Read 'Da Vinci Code' The bestseller is a pack of lies that maligns Jesus and harms Catholicism, a cardinal announces. By Tracy Wilkinson Times Staff Writer

March 18, 2005

ROME — OK, so maybe author Dan Brown takes a few liberties.

Jesus wasn't divine, after all; he married Mary Magdalene, a woman of possible ill repute, and they had kids. What's the fuss?

This now-famous premise shaping Brown's bestseller "The Da Vinci Code" has infuriated leaders of the Roman Catholic Church and led to demands from a senior Vatican official that the book be shunned.

"My appeal is as follows," Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone said this week during a Vatican Radio broadcast. "Don't read and don't buy 'The Da Vinci Code.' "

Bertone said the breathless thriller of madcap chases through the Louvre, code-crunching and sinister intrigue in Rome is a pack of lies that maligns the world's greatest historical figure — Jesus Christ — and attempts to undermine Catholicism.

Although the book, and especially its suggestions about Jesus and Mary Magdalene, have always been controversial for church officials, Bertone, the archbishop of Genoa, is the highest-level prelate to come out against Brown's blockbuster.

Bertone, a former secretary of the powerful Vatican department that enforces church doctrine, sponsored a symposium Wednesday night in Genoa to, as he put it, expose the myths and malice of the book.

Speaking at the conference, Bertone acknowledged that the book was a brilliantly marketed page-turner but said it "falsifies the figure of Christ and the events central to the Christian experience, namely the passion of Christ, his death and resurrection."

The timing of Bertone's comments, coming nearly two years after the book started flying out of stores everywhere, had a few people scratching their heads. The book has been translated into 44 languages and sold an estimated 20 million copies.

The condemnation might have been prompted by the fact that the book's plots and assertions are about to become even more widely disseminated in a movie starring Tom Hanks. Or it could be the growing popularity of "Da Vinci Code"-based tours to Rome and Paris in which tourists, with book in hand, try to follow its clues.

Some priests have said they are alarmed that people really believe some of the book's wilder conspiracy theories.

The novel's vogue has contributed to the belief among many church leaders that their faith is under attack. Religious intolerance that has grown since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States and the U.S. invasion of Iraq has especially persecuted Christians, the Rome-based Jesuit magazine, Civilta Cattolica, said this month. The publication often reflects Vatican thinking.

A number of senior church officials in recent weeks have denounced what they call Christianophobia. They are alarmed at what they see as the eradication of Christian values amid a rise in secularism and anti-Catholic policies, such as the legalization of abortion and gay marriage, in traditional Christian strongholds such as Western Europe and the United States.

Bertone said Brown's thriller was part of that trend.

"What would have happened if a book like this had been written, full of lies, on the Buddha or Muhammad or even, for example, if a novel had been published that manipulated the history of the Holocaust?" he asked.

The publisher, Doubleday, defended the book as a work of fiction. Reuters news service quoted Brown's agent as saying the author was not expected to respond to Bertone's complaints, though he previously has said that he welcomed debate.

Bertone was joined at the Genoa conference by Massimo Introvigne, director of the Center for Studies on New Religions, based in Turin, Italy. He said the danger within Brown's book was that he stated early on that his descriptions of secret rituals and mysterious documents were factual.

The book's popularity, Introvigne said, stems from its combination of "two types of social 'tastes' which appear to be quite widespread: on the one hand, the notion of 'conspiracies' and secret societies that dominate the world; and on the other hand, an increasingly unashamed and virulent anti-Catholicism."

Bertone, Introvigne and others also took exception to Brown's use of Opus Dei, a controversial lay order that is well-connected in the Vatican, as the villainous foil.

In the book, an Opus Dei "monk" is a killer; critics point out that Opus Dei does not have monks and has risen in power and respectability, with the pope elevating its Spanish founder to sainthood in near-record time two years ago.

Msgr. Javier Echevarria, an Opus Dei bishop, on Wednesday called on Brown to "rectify" his descriptions of the secretive order.

"He knows that he is doing wrong and that he is deceiving the people," Echevarria said, adding that he is praying "every day" for the author.

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#1. To: All (#0)

OK guys, I found another one. So here's your daily ration of Da Vinci Code article.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-03-18   7:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: crack monkey (#0)

(1). Jesus wasn't divine, after all; he married Mary Magdalene, a woman of possible ill repute, and they had kids. What's the fuss?

(2). "My appeal is as follows," Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone said this week during a Vatican Radio broadcast. "Don't read and don't buy 'The Da Vinci Code.' "

(3). Bertone said the breathless thriller of madcap chases through the Louvre, code-crunching and sinister intrigue in Rome is a pack of lies that maligns the world's greatest historical figure — Jesus Christ — and attempts to undermine Catholicism.

(4). Bertone, the archbishop of Genoa, is the highest-level prelate to come out against Brown's blockbuster.

(5). The condemnation might have been prompted by the fact that the book's plots and assertions are about to become even more widely disseminated in a movie starring Tom Hanks. Or it could be the growing popularity of "Da Vinci Code"-based tours to Rome and Paris in which tourists, with book in hand, try to follow its clues.

(6). Religious intolerance that has grown since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States and the U.S. invasion of Iraq has especially persecuted Christians, the Rome-based Jesuit magazine, Civilta Cattolica, said this month.

(7). "What would have happened if a book like this had been written, full of lies, on the Buddha or Muhammad or even, for example, if a novel had been published that manipulated the history of the Holocaust?" he asked.

(8). The book's popularity, Introvigne said, stems from its combination of "two types of social 'tastes' which appear to be quite widespread: on the one hand, the notion of 'conspiracies' and secret societies that dominate the world; and on the other hand, an increasingly unashamed and virulent anti-Catholicism."

(9). In the book, an Opus Dei "monk" is a killer; critics point out that Opus Dei does not have monks and has risen in power and respectability, with the pope elevating its Spanish founder to sainthood in near-record time two years ago.

(10) "He knows that he is doing wrong and that he is deceiving the people," Echevarria said, adding that he is praying "every day" for the author.

(1). The fallen angels are said to have bred with the daughters of men. They were divine. So right off the bat the author doesn't know squat.

(2). This ought to increase sales "divinely" !

(3). The Book admits to being fiction, and Jesus has been maligned by "historians" as well as authors of fiction. So what !

(4). Does "prelate" mean pedophile ?

(5). Where was this Bertone when they made the "queer" Jesus movie ?

(6). Christianity increases under persecution. Rome should be pleased.

(7). (Excuse me while I ROTFLMFAO) What Halocaust ? More Fiction ? No mention here of all those Nazis escaping Germany through what were known as "The Ratlines" of the Vatican.

(8). Many readers of this Book are simply interested in Jesus' life and possibilities other than those contained in the Bible. As far as conspiracies are concerned, no one on this thread believes in them, but it appears the Catholic Church believes there is a "virulent anti-catholicism conspiracy" going down. (Go figure).

(9). A few years ago the Vatican Banker, Robert Calvi, was found suicided by hanging under Black Friars Bridge, near London. It was an obvious Masonic murder. The Vatican operates like any other government, complete with its Bankers and killers. The Pope just looks like a harmless old fart.

(10) This is funny, deceiving people .... hahahaha ... like hiding all of the fags falling out of every closet in the Vatican, ... praying "every day" for the author ... save a couple of those prayers for the paedophile rings in Rome and D.C. ... both owned and operated by the exact same thugs !

In conclusion: Mussolini signed the "Lateran Treaty" which established Rome and the Vatican as a "Sovereign Nation State" ... gimme a break, this no good fascist set up a fake Sovereign State, just like the UN set up a fake Jewish State. Why would a world at war with Fascism (joke) allow a Treaty signed by the Fascist Il Duce to stand. The Vatican is a fraud made legal. The State of Israel is a fraud made legal. The "city" near London is another fraud made legal.

******* If you look back up to (9) number nine wherein reference is made to Robert Calvi, the Vatican Banker, being hung (suicided) by the Masonics it should be noted that Black Friars Bridge borders another FAKE SOVEREIGN State known as the "City".

The three Sovereign States listed above issue every order that rules our lives, and we wonder why we think we're living in the TWILIGHT ZONE.

noone222  posted on  2005-03-18   7:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#2)

these parasites are worried.

good. their time is up.

hey, cardinal, ever read that part about the splinter in anothers eye?

I guess since the pedophile and satanist problem is still in full bloom, you assholes decided to work on the world's problems.

go watch some porn, you fucking piece of trash.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2005-03-18   7:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#2)

The fallen angels are said to have bred with the daughters of men. They were divine.

But the angels were not God incarnate.. they were created beings a little above men..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-03-18   8:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#4)

The fallen angels are said to have bred with the daughters of men. They were divine. But the angels were not God incarnate.. they were created beings a little above men..

As you can see for yourself, I didn't say they were God. The Bible depicts them as the Sons of God that saw the daughters of men ....

Divinity

n 1: any supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force [syn: deity, god, immortal] 2: the quality of being divine; "ancient Egyptians believed in the divinity of the Pharaohs"

noone222  posted on  2005-03-18   8:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#5)

You just described exactly what I said.. angels are not divine.. but rather created beings.. not God or gods although immortal.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-03-18   9:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#6)

exactly what I said ... The fallen angels are said to have bred with the daughters of men. They were divine.

The Bible depicts them as the Sons of God that saw the daughters of men ....

It appears that the controversy here stems from some calling them fallen angels and some calling them the sons of God.

My original statement may not have been well said:

ZIP, this doesn't need to turn into a debate ... but the son of a horse is a horse, the son of a man is a man and the son of God is a ???

The determination of what a son of God "is" really shouldn't have any impact upon whether Jesus could have been married and fathered children. (Oh no ... what the definition of "is" .. "is" ) The correct interpretation of "He became flesh" is he took upon him a tent of flesh ... and my presumption would be the attending attributes.

Personally, I don't think He did either. However, just because I don't believe He married or fathered children, doesn't make it impossible ... as we know ALL THINGS are possible with God.

There are many mysteries buried deep within scripture, and I'm still mining.

noone222  posted on  2005-03-18   10:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: crack monkey (#0)

"What would have happened if a book like this had been written, full of lies, on the Buddha or Muhammad or even, for example, if a novel had been published that manipulated the history of the Holocaust?" he asked.

Boy..........this Bertone is asking for the wrath of the zionists to fall on his head! His days are numbered.......

rowdee  posted on  2005-03-18   15:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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