Title: What do Jews in Israel think about Jesus Christ the Messiah and God in the Flesh - YAHWEH Source:
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Published on Oct 7, 2016
The Bible never records Jesus saying the precise words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16).
John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity: “The Word [Jesus] was God” and “the Word became flesh” (John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!
Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, “But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God,” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.
In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.
The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that, if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.
[OLD TESTAMENT]: would not remain dead, but see his seed, prolong his days and be exalted (53:10-11)
[NEW Testament]: rose from the dead three days after the crucifixion and still lives today and millions of people see themselves as his spiritual seed (Matthew 28:1-10)
I have only in the past year discovered an apparent plot to obscure that word "seed". If you look in Strong's concordance, there is one word for "seed" (singular) and another word for "seeds" (plural).
whereas the King James Version of the Bible translates the word seed throughout, the NIV and others alter the Word by substituting "descendants" or "offspring", which you will see, nullifies Galatians 3:16.
Starting with Genesis 3:15:
Parallel Verses
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
King James Bible
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Here are a few pertinent passages that help to point out the message the NIV [which is used in the Lutheran seminary I am told, and an edict came down in the Baptist church while I was attending that maybe 10 years ago, to use it exclusively in Bible class, and may be the counter-word of God that is going out to the whole world] is helping to obscure:
Gen 9:9 And I, behold, I establish H6965 my covenant H1285 with you, and with your seed H2233 after you; H310
Gen 12:7 And the LORD H3068 appeared H7200 unto Abram, H87 and said, H559 Unto thy seed H2233 will I give H5414 this H2063 land: H776 and there builded H1129 he an altar H4196 unto the LORD, H3068 who appeared H7200 unto him.
Gen 13:15 For all the land H776 which thou seest, H7200 to thee will I give it, H5414 and to thy seed H2233 for H5704 ever. H5769
Gen 13:16 And I will make H7760 thy seed H2233 as the dust H6083 of the earth: H776 so that H834 if a man H376 can H3201 number H4487 the dust H6083 of the earth, H776 then shall thy seed H2233 also be numbered. H4487
Gen 15:13 And he said H559 unto Abram, H87 Know H3045 of a surety H3045 that thy seed H2233 shall be a stranger H1616 in a land H776 that is not theirs, and shall serve H5647 them; and they shall afflict H6031 them four H702 hundred H3967 years; H8141
Gen 15:18 In the same H1931 day H3117 the LORD H3068 made H3772 a covenant H1285 with Abram, H87 saying, H559 Unto thy seed H2233 have I given H5414 this land, H776 from the river H5104 of Egypt H4714 unto the great H1419 river, H5104 the river H5104 Euphrates: H6578
Gen 16:10 And the angel H4397 of the LORD H3068 said H559 unto her, I will multiply H7235 thy seed H2233 exceedingly, H7235 that it shall not be numbered H5608 for multitude. H7230
Gen 17:7 And I will establish H6965 my covenant H1285 between me and thee and thy seed H2233 after thee H310 in their generations H1755 for an everlasting H5769 covenant, H1285 to be a God H430 unto thee, and to thy seed H2233 after thee. H310
Gen 17:8 And I will give H5414 unto thee, and to thy seed H2233 after thee, H310 the land H776 wherein thou art a stranger, H4033 all the land H776 of Canaan, H3667 for an everlasting H5769 possession; H272 and I will be their God. H430
Gen 17:9 And God H430 said H559 unto Abraham, H85 Thou shalt keep H8104 my covenant H1285 therefore, thou, and thy seed H2233 after thee H310 in their generations. H1755
If you look up the NIV for those verses, I believe you will find they all translate "seed" as "descendants" or "offspring" [PLURAL]
The message they are obscuring in the synogogues and zionized churches is this:
King James Bible
Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. http://biblehub.com/galatians/3-28.htm
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Cross References
Matthew 3:9 And do not presume to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.
Romans 4:13 For the promise that Abraham would be heir of the world was not made to him and his descendants through the Law, but through the righteousness that comes by faith.
Romans 8:17 And if we are children, then we are heirs: heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ--if indeed we suffer with Him, so that we may also be glorified with Him.
Romans 9:8 So it is not the children of the flesh who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as offspring.
1 Corinthians 3:23 and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.
Galatians 3:18 For if the inheritance depends on the Law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God freely granted it to Abraham through a promise.
Isaiah 53:10, which foretells of Christ's sacrificial death, was first brought home to me by a young Jewish man who became a Christian....on the strength of that verse.
Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. http://biblehub.com/isaiah/53-10.htm
This young man called himself Roi Tov, which means "I lay down my life for the sheep – John 10:15" [ http://www.roytov.com/ ], which like his Lord and Master, Roi Tov may also have done. He has not been heard from since August, 2014. [ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/02/10/roi-tov-missing-and-perhaps-silenced/ ]. He told in one article how he was followed and questioned many times by the Mossad in the police state of Israel. They wanted the names of his bible students, some of whom cried and threw down their "stars-of-david" after learning the truth of the gospel; they had thought they couldn't become Christians because they were Jewish, due to the brainwashing they had received at the hands of the pharisees. He didn't give their names of course, and continued to preach the gospel and expose the crimes of "zion".
In an interview with Christopher Bollyn Roi Tov said this about ISAIAH 53:
"Bollyn: In The Cross of Bethlehem you wrote about how your Bible studies in the kibbutz school avoided the parts of Scripture that did not fit with the Israeli worldview: “Even in my quasi-Communist high school – which claimed to be secular – we skipped Chapter 53 of the Book of Isaiah, which contains the clearest and exact allusion to Jesus, His deeds, and the New Covenant in the Old Testament.”
Isaiah 53 may very well be their Achilles' heel. See my tagline: "...Let us, above all, make it impossible for Christians to be reunited, or for non-Christians to join the Church; otherwise the greatest obstruction to our domination will be strengthened and all our work undone. Our plot will be unveiled, the Gentiles will turn against us, in the spirit of revenge, and our domination over them will never be realized. Let us remember that as long as there still remain active enemies of the Christian Church, we may hope to become Master of the World . . . And let us remember always that the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown . . . " (London Catholic Gazette, February, 1936; and in Paris Le Reveil du Peuple). luther.htm"
a couple of other promises made to Abraham [and connecting the dots, to his Seed, Galatians 3:16-29]
Genesis 12
2And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/12.htm
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Regarding Gen 15:13 And he said H559 unto Abram, H87 Know H3045 of a surety H3045 that thy seed H2233 shall be a stranger H1616 in a land H776 that is not theirs, and shall serve H5647 them; and they shall afflict H6031 them four H702 hundred H3967 years; H8141
FINALLY, I found someone who believes along the same lines as I do...that God was not talking about Old Testament Israel here, but the New Testament Israel, the church [ http://www.preteristarchive.com/PartialPreterism/provan-charles_dd_01.html ], which God brought to America in 1607, where the first thing they did, even before they proceeded to Jamestown, was get out and plant a cross they had brought from England: http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/print/ . Yet the land is not "our own" in the sense that it has always been claimed by "the king" or "the Crown": THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY, EXTORTING TAXES FOR THE CROWN http://www.apfn.org/apfn/bcolony.htm pretty much sums up the prophecy. When, EXACTLY, we became "afflicted" is maybe known only to God, but I now wonder if it started around the time the northern colony of sheep in wolves' clothing set up shop. [edit: they started right off by changing the boundaries of the First Colony: www.virginiaplaces.org/boundaries/charters.html . I read somewhere a long time ago, how the Southern colony was burning the churches (?) in the Northern colony. See The Jews And Their Lies also at my tagline. Luther had suggested burning the Jews' synagogues, and from what I've read, I have to wonder if the "churches" may have been masquerading synagogues. Of course, this caused some in Northern colony to complain and relinquish their charter back to the Crown.] Anyway, here is a link:
They wanted the names of his bible students, some of whom cried and threw down their "stars-of-david" after learning the truth of the gospel; they had thought they couldn't become Christians because they were Jewish, due to the brainwashing they had received at the hands of the pharisees.
A friend of mine whose name is Mark (Davey from Dallas on talk radio) made me aware of a "FACT" that is overlooked by people focused solely upon so-called "Jews" as responsible for the world's problems. (He taught me this among many other things because he studied to resolve the problem not enlarge it). He pointed out the fact that most people calling themselves "Jews" are descendants of the Khazars of eastern Europe (estimated to be 90%) of the total Jewish population, making them "GENTILES."
I would never discount the truth of Jewish elites having a disproportionate negative influence upon the condition of the world. That being said, I am of the opinion that most people calling themselves Jews are in fact gentiles that have been convinced otherwise. They have been propagandized just like most everyone else to believe the lies propagated by the elites, their educational systems, their media and their bought and paid for religious leaders (Rabbis and the Talmud). Christianity itself suffers from the lies of false teachers, false "profits" and a sense of salvation through grace that allows them to commit wrongs all week as long as they attend church on Sunday (not ever the sabbath).
Whether through propaganda or through apathy the ignorance of the world keeps all of us at war with each other and complicit with the elites agenda.
He pointed out the fact that most people calling themselves "Jews" are descendants of the Khazars of eastern Europe (estimated to be 90%) of the total Jewish population, making them "GENTILES."
true: www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm ... note the references to "Gog and Magog" the end-time enemy of true Israel, the church, Ezekiel 38-39,Rev. 20:7-10...but my post was already too long for anymore "dots".
Also note :
King James Bible
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. biblehub.com/revelation/3-9.htm
A true Jew, is one who is circumcised in the heart [loves Jesus] and not the flesh: biblehub.com/romans/2-29.htm