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Title: War on Christmas 2.0: ‘Jesus Never Existed’
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... stmas-2-0-jesus-never-existed/
Published: Dec 21, 2016
Author: THOMAS D. WILLIAMS
Post Date: 2016-12-21 09:46:04 by Ada
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Comments: 11

Anti-Christmas grinches have upped the ante in the annual war on Christmas, moving beyond opposition to Nativity scenes and Wise Men to denying the very existence of Jesus. A new article in Big Think claims that more and more, “historians and bloggers alike are questioning whether the actual man called Jesus existed.”

Trendy atheists like Richard Dawkins and the late Christopher Hitchens also dabbled in the denial of the historical Jesus, with Dawkins asserting that it is possible “to mount a serious, though not widely supported, historical case that Jesus never lived at all, and Hitchens averring that Jesus’ existence is “highly questionable.”

Many of the writings we do have are “tainted,” Philip Perry now pronounces in Big Think, and historical sources are few. Even in the bible, Perry writes, “whole chunks of his life are missing. Jesus goes from age 12 to 30, without any word of what happened in-between.”

“What we do have are lots of sources completed several decades after the fact, by authors of the gospels who wanted to promote the faith,” he writes.

Moreover, the “gospels themselves are contradictory,” he adds, with “competing Easter stories” and no real names attached to many of them, “but rather an apostle’s who ‘signing off’ on the manuscript.” There is also “evidence that the gospels were heavily edited over the years.”

Perry does acknowledge that Roman historians Josephus and Tacitus do make “a few, scant remarks about his life,” but that was a century after Jesus’s time, he says, and their testimony could have been tampered with by Christians.

While holding that “the historical record itself is thin,” meaning that there are “no birth records, no trial transcripts, no death certificates,” Perry fails to note the very obvious fact that we actually have very little evidence for anyone in the ancient world, especially if the person wasn’t an emperor, general or aristocrat.

As one more sensible atheist has written, we possess “about as much evidence for Jesus as we have for other, analogous preachers and prophets of his time. In fact, we have slightly more for him than most.”

Atheist scholar Tim O’Neill notes that almost all non-Christian scholars fully accept evidence from Tacitus and Josephus, “as being evidence that Jesus was, in fact, a historical figure.”

“The mentions of him by those writers are exactly what would we expect if someone like Jesus existed,” he observes.

Or as Dr. James Kennedy, himself a Christian, has written: “The evidence is all on Christianity’s side. Let’s take a tally: twenty seven books of the New Testament, nineteen pagan writers, and three Jewish writers testify to Jesus Christ’s historical reality.”

In point of fact, we “know” Jesus of Nazareth really existed just as far as we can know any historical fact. That is to say, none of us was present on the earth two thousand years ago to empirically verify Jesus’ existence, so we must rely on the historical record. But the historical record is as conclusive as we could possibly hope for, and much better than the record of many people whose existence no one doubts.

As Theodore Dalrymple noted some years ago in The City Journal: “If I questioned whether George Washington died in 1799, I could spend a lifetime trying to prove it and find myself still, at the end of my efforts, having to make a leap, or perhaps several leaps, of faith in order to believe the rather banal fact that I had set out to prove.”

In other words, when it comes to history, what you believe depends on what you are willing to believe.

Christians may take some consolation in the fact that more than 2,000 years after his birth, Jesus Christ continues to stir up debate and controversy.

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

even the satanic talmud acknowledges the existence of Jesus:

"...The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of "Jesus the Nazarene"..."

http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm

btw, that name "yeshu" is a hebrew acronym meaning "may His name be forgotten"

that's why israhell did 911 on His Birthday...[Jesus was born on September 11, 3 BC]...and named the day "patriot day".

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2016-12-21   10:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#1)

Wow - thank you.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-12-21   12:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

Eusebius was the first church historian. He found plows made by the carpenter Jesus (Joshua.) According to the Nazarene Gospel Restored, Joseph was a Levitical priest at the temple in Jerusalem. He was a vegetarian and probably adopted Jesus so he could have a Levitical role. Mary Magdalene meant Miriam the Braider in Hebrew. She wove tapestries in the temple. She was a Levite. She would have been stoned to death if she had been a prostitute. She probably married Jesus and they moved to Damascus. Legend has it that they had 2 children. She was half Jesus's age (16 vs 33) and moved to Greece after Jesus died. From there she went to southern France.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2016-12-21   12:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Horse (#3)

Don't bet your bippy on that story.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-12-21   13:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Horse, lod (#3)

what the hell? literally.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2016-12-21   13:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ada (#0)

They sure spend a lot of time and effort on somebody who didn't exist.

www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2016-12-21   14:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada (#0)

In all the fiction writings/books of early Israel, the heroes were always men. Women were second class people/citizens. They had virtually nothing to do with history, war, government or any such things. Women were not pictured in any way except as subservient to men. That was and still is today common in many Jewish communities.

Interesting.. who were the ones to venture out to the cave/tomb were Jesus was laid after being crucified and found it to be empty. WOMEN. In old Jewish fiction writings, this would never happen; it would have been men who did such a bold thing.

Fiction? I don't think so.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2016-12-21   14:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#1)

Babylonian Talmud was compiled about the year 500 AD and thus was using earlier Christian texts.

Ada  posted on  2016-12-21   15:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#7)

WOMEN. In old Jewish fiction writings, this would never happen; it would have been men who did such a bold thing.

Remember that the disciples were horrified that Jesus would converse with the woman at the well and even debate theology with her.

Ada  posted on  2016-12-21   15:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Horse (#3)

Nazarene Gospel Restored,

While that was not written until 1951, the original Nazarene Gospel is very old indeed and apparently intended for the Jews.

Not sure but I don't think prostitutes were stoned, just women taken in adultery. (Rahab certainly wasn't.)

Ada  posted on  2016-12-21   15:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ada (#8) (Edited)

Babylonian Talmud was compiled about the year 500 AD and thus was using earlier Christian texts.

SHORT STORY:

Rabbi Louis Finkelstein stated in his book “The Pharisees, The Sociological Background of Their Faith” that: “Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes in name . . . the spirit of the ancient Pharisees survives, unaltered . . . From Palestine to Babylonia; from Babylonia to North Africa, Italy, Spain, France and Germany; from these to Poland, Russia, and eastern Europe generally, ancient Pharisaism has wandered . . . demonstrates the enduring importance which attaches to Pharisaism as a religious movement . . .”

Judaism is actually Pharisaism, and therefore it is a misnomer since it is neither the doctrine of Judah nor the doctrine that Christ the Judahite practiced....

biblicisminstitute.wordpr...ca/judaism-or-pharisaism/

"From The World's Troublemakers read carefully and consider the implications of the following paragraph from the Jewish Encyclopedia. Jews and Judeo-Christians alike, read each word as though it were highlighted, italicized, and underlined.

"This is the continuation of Phariseeism, as acknowledged in the Jewish Encyclopedia under the word 'Pharisee':

Henceforth, Jewish life was regulated by the teachings of the Pharisees.

The whole history of Judaism was reconstructed from the Pharisaic point of view, and a new aspect was given to the Sanhedrin of the past.

Pharisaism shaped the character of Judaism and the life and thoughts of the Jew for all the future.

Rabbi Louis Finkelstein, in his book The Pharisee, confirms this and says:

"The spirit of the ancient Pharisee survived unaltered!"

On this basis, whenever the word 'Jew' is used we should remember that it refers to the Pharisees. This group believes now, as it did then, that it has been specially chosen by its own particular god to exercise dominion over all other groups, and that any means to this end has divine sanction."

From the Library of Congress' Dead Sea Scrolls website we find another assertion that modern Judaism IS Pharisaism; that is... Talmudism:

"... With the destruction of the Temple and the commonwealth in 70 C.E., all that came to an end. Only the Judaism of the Pharisees -- Rabbinic Judaism -- survived." ...."

LONG STORY:

"...(2) WHO DRAFTED THESE SEVEN NOAHIDE LAWS AND WHERE DID THEY COME FROM?

Dr. Eliezer Segal, a Jewish Associate Professor of Theology at the University of Calgary, admits that history proves that the Talmud, Mishnah (a part of the Talmud) and the seven Noahide Laws are derived from Babylonian traditions, that Jesus vehemently denounced because they nullified the teaching of Scripture.

The Encyclopedia of Judaism identifies the Babylonian Talmud (T.B.) as the source of the Noahide Laws.

According to “Secret Societies and Subversive Movements,” by Nesta Webster, the Talmud, and the Kabbalah, were derived from Jewish oral Traditions which the Jews claim to have the same authority as the Laws of Moses found in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.

The “Holiest” books of Judaism are the Talmud, a compendium of over 100 “books” written by Pharisees and Jewish Rabbis, that is the utter perversion of God’s Word. The Kabbalah, another Jewish “holy book,” is a book of witchcraft and licentious debauchery.

Provisions of the Talmud, Genesis Rabbah 16: 6. Sanhedrin 56 states that the seven Noahide Laws were commanded to Adam. Yet there is nothing in the Bible to support this claim....

More quotes from the Talmud about Jesus

Gitten 57a says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in “hot excrement.”

Sanhedrin 43 says Jesus was executed because he practiced sorcery: “It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry…He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone....”"

"...The Chabad Lubavitch falsely claims that God gave the Seven Noahide Laws at Mt. Sinai with the intention that the Children of Israel should keep them and teach them to the Gentiles. This is a deliberate lie!

There is absolutely no support in the Bible for this fraudulent claim.

The Source of these Seven Noahide Laws was NOT, as the Jews have claimed, directions from God to Adam – or Noah – or Moses. Their source is the Oral Traditions of the Pharisees that began in Babylon after the Israelites were captured in 586 BC.

Over 600 years later, after the Pharisees had killed Christ and the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, these Oral Traditions were written down and became the Babylonian Talmud.

(3) WHEN WERE THE SEVEN NOAHIDE LAWS DRAFTED?

The Exodus of the Israelites from Egypt took place in about 1445 BC. Moses died in 1405 BC. Shortly after beginning the forty year wandering in the desert, God wrote the Ten Commandments on two tablets with his own finger and they are recorded in Exodus 20: 1-17.

The ancient nation of Israel reached its height of power and prestige during the reign of Solomon from 960-930 BC.

After Solomon, most of the Israelite kings were corrupt or inept and the Northern ten tribes of Israel were taken captive by Assyria in 721 BC. The Southern tribes, Judah and Benjamin, were expelled to Babylon in about 586 BC, after which the Talmud oral traditions, specifically including the Seven Noahide Laws, were produced in Babylon during this period...."

"...(5) “MAN’S” SEVEN NOAHIDE LAWS VS. GOD’S TEN COMMANDMENTS.

It is God’s Law, the Ten Commandments, that is the basis of civilization, NOT the Noahide Laws written by the killers of Christ – the Pharisees.

The Ten Commandments are found in Exodus 20: 1-17 and were written by God in his own finger on two tablets of stone, to show their permanence. God wrote these Commandments shortly after the Exodus that began in 1445 BC.

Although false claims have been made by the Jews that the origin of the Noahide Laws began with Adam, and included Noah and Moses, Jewish Professor Segal stated that the evidence of history proves that the origin of the Seven Noahide Laws is the Babylonian Traditions!

The captivity and removal to Babylon of the Northern tribes Judah and Benjamin occurred in 586 BC.

In other words, at least 859 years after God gave the Ten Commandments to mankind on Mt. Sinai, the Pharisees, the cultural progeny of the killers of Christ, in exile in Babylon, drafted the Seven Noahide Laws which were written by “man,” NOT by GOD!

In examining the history of the Seven Noahide Laws, no claim is made that God wrote them and/or that He wrote them with His own finger, as He did the Ten Commandments.

TEN COMMANDMENTS IN THE ARK OF COVENANT

The two tablets of stone containing the Ten Commandments written by God, were housed inside the Ark of the Covenant. (2 Chronicles 5:10, 1 Kings 8:9) The ordinances, written by Moses, were housed in a side pocket on the outside of the Ark of the Covenant. (Deuteronomy 31:26)

When Jesus died on the cross He abolished the ordinances written by Moses (housed on the outside of the Ark of the Covenant) including the sanctuary-related ordinances that looked forward to the sacrificial lamb, Jesus Christ, and thus were abolished when these were fulfilled with the crucifixion of Christ. But the ordinances did NOT include the Ten Commandments. The ordinances were totally separate from the Ten Commandments.

No trace of a claim by anyone has been found which asserts that the Seven Noahide Laws were inside or on the outside of the Ark of the Covenant or anywhere during the Israelites sojourn in the wilderness. This fact is not surprising since the Seven Noahide Laws were first developed as a part of the Babylonian Talmud long after the exile of the Israelites to Babylon in 586 BC.

Exodus 20:3-17, contains the Ten Commandments:

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 13 Thou shalt not kill. 14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 15 Thou shalt not steal. 16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

What God gave in these texts to the Children of Israel was clearly conditional. In the 23rd Chapter of Matthew, Jesus properly brought to account the Scribes and Pharisees for not keeping the covenant, the Ten Commandments. No better proof of the total rejection of the covenant was the actions of the Jews to call for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

The only reason the Pharisaical leaders of the Jews did not directly order Jesus’ death, was that they did not have the legal authority to do so. They were under Roman rule and only a Roman ruler could order the death penalty for any person. So they pressured Pilate (who said “I find NO FAULT in this “man” (Jesus)) to order the Jews’ murderous demand.

Many Christian leaders claim that the Ten Commandments were done away with at the Cross and only those commandments that Christ specifically mentioned in the New Testament are to be kept by “New Testament Christians.”

This is their justification for ignoring the Fourth Commandment which is God’s command that we keep holy the Sabbath day (Saturday) as the Sabbath. But in the following analysis, you will see that ALL Ten Commandments including the (Saturday) Sabbath Commandment are given in the New Testament.

In addition, Jesus Himself, kept the Seventh Day Sabbath, and Jesus was NOT a Jew. Jesus is God and God is not Jewish.

The Christian Patriot Association of Boring, Oregon, published this document, “The Law of God” which contains a side by side scriptural reference of the Old and New Testament concerning the Ten Commandments....[see at site]..."

"...(7) IS HJ RES. 104, CONTAINING THE SEVEN NOAHIDE LAWS CONSTITUTIONAL?

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides among other things, that:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”

HJ Res. 104 fraudulently claims that the Seven Noahide Laws are the “bedrock of society” from the dawn of civilization. This is a deliberate lie and seeks to re-write history. The Seven Noahide Laws were written by Jewish Pharisees and Rabbis about 586 BC, when the tribes of Judah and Benjamin were in exile in Babylon.

The Ten Commandments were written by God in His own finger in stone approximately 1445 BC at Mt. Sinai.

The Ten Commandments were written by God over 850 years BEFORE the Seven Noahide Laws were written by man. The Ten Commandments, NOT the fraudulent Noahide Laws, are the generally acknowledged bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, but have not been designated as law by an act of Congress.

Because the Seven Noahide Laws are obviously religious in their purpose, any act of Congress that attempts to establish them as the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization is clearly religious and in a complete and total violation of the First Amendment.

CONCLUSION

The Noahide Laws have nothing to do with Noah, or Adam or God. In about 1600 B.C. God directed Noah to build an ark and save his family and the animal population of the world from the flood which destroyed life on the surface of the earth.

Over one thousand years later, in 586 BC, during the Babylonian captivity, diabolical laws were developed by the Pharisees and Jewish Rabbis who sought to title these laws with a name that would give them legitimacy.

The purpose of the Jews in developing the Noahide Laws is to rule over all of the non-Jews in the world without having to suffer a mass conversion of these people to Judaism which they fear would dilute the cultural cohesion of the Jewish population.

The Rabbis who produced the Talmud and the Noahide Laws claim that the Noahide Laws are the universal way of reaching God even though they privately state the Noahide Laws are only for the “Gentiles.” Behind this false claim is the true belief of the Rabbis that it is the means whereby the Rabbis are seen as God and are to be worshiped as God by the “Gentiles.”

The Noahide Laws are to become the national, though undeclared, religion of America. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits Congress from passing a law which establishes a religion for the United States of America. If another 9-11 type “terrorist” incident takes place, and Martial Law is declared, it is likely that the claim would be made that since the Noahide Laws have been recognized by Congress as the “basis of our civilization” and that according to the third Noahide Law, anyone who worships Jesus Christ violates this law, he or she may be characterized as a terrorist. Then the Talmudic penalty for violating any of the Noahide Laws, namely decapitation, would be enforced.

No American should underestimate the ferocity of the commitment of the Zionist Jews to control the entire political system of the world through the One World Government now being created, and in so doing administer “Justice” as they define it.

The main goal of the Zionist Jews and their New World Order is exactly the same as it was when Jesus was on earth – to exterminate Christ – and His followers! Nothing has changed...."

NOW THE GOVERNMENT CAN LEGALLY KILL CHRISTIANS

Bill Dannemeyer

U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992

http://www.takebackourrights.org/docs/Christians-full%20page.html

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The Noahide Laws

The Jews’ Secret Way to Murder Christians – by Beheading!!

And Most Christians Don’t Even Know These Laws Have Been PASSED by the United States Government!

Lorraine Day, M.D.

The “holiest” books of the religion of Judaism and the books that are the foundation of the entire secular culture of the Jews – religious or non-religious – are known as the Talmud, a racist, bigoted series of books full of vile hatred toward Jesus, Christianity, Christians, and every other non-Jew, as well.

The Talmud calls for the eventual slaughter of ALL “Gentiles”! It is undoubtedly the most Racist, Bigoted, Hateful series of books in the entire world!

The Talmud is the compilation of the false doctrines that were strongly rebuked by Jesus Himself when He was on earth. He referred to them as the “traditions of the elders” that “make the law of God of none effect.” For hundreds of years, the Pharisees passed them down from one generation to another as “Oral Traditions.” But finally they were written down and made into Jewish law - after the Jews had murdered Jesus Christ.

When the city of Jerusalem and its Temple were destroyed in A.D. 70, and the Jews were taken into captivity, the pagan heresies that had, since the pagan worship of the golden calf in the wilderness, been slowly infiltrating the true religion of the Israelites (which was the worship of the TRUE God and the coming Messiah, Jesus Christ), the Pharisees committed the “Oral Traditions” to paper, and the many books of these “Oral Traditions” were collectively called – the Talmud.

It was then that the paganism that had been performed in secret for hundreds of years – even by the priests in the temple – that undermined the worship of the true God, now became open and public, overwhelming the truths God had given to the Israelites. These heresies were written down in the books that subsequently became known as the Talmud (literally: “the teachings”) which became the “holiest” books of the religion of Judaism.

The religion of Judaism began AFTER Jesus was crucified – not before. Judaism was NOT the religion of the Old Testament. The religion of the Israelites in the Old Testament was - - - Christianity. The whole Old Testament is a history of a people – the Israelites – looking forward to the coming of the Messiah – Jesus Christ. When Jesus was on earth, He said to the Pharisees:

You search the Scriptures, thinking that in THEM you have eternal (literally – eonian) life; but THEY (the Old Testament Scriptures) are they that testify OF ME! (John 5:39)

Jesus was clearly stating that the Scriptures testified of Jesus Christ. And remember that the only “Scriptures” that had been written at that time were the books of the OLD Testament.

Jesus is revealing that the focus of the ENTIRE Old Testament is Jesus Christ – NOT Israel!

Israel was constantly straying from God – “whoring” after pagan gods, as God Himself stated numerous times. It was this undercurrent of paganism that began with the worship of the golden calf in the wilderness, and proceeded through the rebellion of Korah, Dathan and Abiram (Numbers, Chapter 16), and the wickedness of the sons of Eli, and the abominations done by the Priests in the temple as recorded in many Chapters in Ezekiel (especially Chapters 8-16) including the worship of the pagan god, Tammuz, the worship of beasts and insects, and the worship of the Sun god, that culminated in the spiritual blindness of the Pharisees and virtually ALL the Jews in NOT recognizing Jesus Christ as their Messiah – and their subsequent dastardly murder of Jesus by Crucifixion.

The murder of Jesus Christ was the culmination of hundreds of years of wickedness on the part of the Jews and their leaders, the Pharisees, leading to total spiritual blindness, the result of which was the beginning of the false religion of Judaism, with its diabolic “holy” books collectively called – the Talmud.

The origin of the Noahide Laws is the Talmud. The Noahide Laws have NOTHING to do with Noah, but are given this name to deceive the masses, and to try to give these diabolic “laws” Biblical credibility and authority. Unfortunately, the vast majority of Christians have never even heard of the Noahide Laws, even though their (the Christians’) Death Sentence is “signed, sealed and delivered” within these “Laws.”

These outrageously evil Talmudic Noahide Laws were concocted by the Jews as a way to 1) take control of, 2) rule over, and 3) EXTERMINATE - ALL Christians, and ALL “Gentiles”!..."

http://www.takebackourrights.org/docs/noahidelaw.html

======================

"...We will defer here to the learned Rabbis, in the definition of that religious practice. From Facts are Facts, we read:

"Jesus abhorred and denounced the form of religious worship practiced in Judea in His lifetime and which is known and practiced today under its new name 'Judaism'. That religious belief was then known as 'Pharisaism'.

The Christian clergy learned that in their theological seminary days but they have never made any attempt to make that clear to Christians.

###The eminent Rabi Louis Finkelstein, the head of the Jewish Theological Seminary of America (often referred to as 'The Vatican of Judaism') in the Foreword to his First Edition of his classic The Pharisees, The Sociological Background of Their Faith, on page XXI states:

### "... Judaism... Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes in name... the spirit of the ancient Pharisees survives, unaltered...

From Palestine to Babylonia, from Babylonia to North Africa, Italy, Spain, France and Germany; from these to Poland, Russia, and eastern Europe generally, ancient Pharisaism has wandered ...

... demonstrates the enduring importance which attaches to Pharisaism as a religious movement..."

(Recall Moses Mendelssohn's words "Judaism is not a religion. Judaism is a law religionized".)

"Rabbi Louis Finkelstein in his great classic quoted from above, traces the origin of the form of religious worship practiced today under the present name 'Judaism', to its origin as 'Pharisaism' in Judea in the time of Jesus.

Rabbi Finkelstein confirms what Rabbi Adolph Moses says in his: Yahvism, and Other Discourses (in collaboration with Rabbi H.G. Enlow), published in 1903 by the Louisville Section of the Council of Jewish Women. Rabbi Adolph Moses, on page 1, states:

"Among the innumerable misfortunes which have befallen... the most fatal in its consequences is the name Judaism . . . worse still, the Jews themselves, who have gradually come to call their religion Judaism . . .

Yet, neither in biblical nor post-biblical, neither in talmudic, nor in much later times, is the term Judaism ever heard. . . To distinguish it from Christianity and Islam, the Jewish philosophers sometimes designate it as the faith or belief of the Jews. . .

It was Flavius Josephus, writing for the instruction of Greeks and Romans, who coined the term Judaism, in order to pit it against Hellenism...

The Christians eagerly seized upon the name...

The Jews themselves, who intensely detested the traitor Josephus, refrained from reading his works. Hence, the term Judaism coined by Josephus remained absolutely unknown to them. It was only in comparatively recent times, after the Jews became familiar with modern Christian literature, that they themselves began to name their religion Judaism"

This statement by the world's two leading authorities on this subject clearly establishes beyond any question or any doubt that 'Judaism' was not the name of any form of religious worship practised in Judea in the time of Jesus.

Religious worship known and practiced today under the name 'Judaism' by 'Jews' throughout the world was known and practiced in Judea in the time of Jesus under the name 'Pharisaism'... "

The form of religious worship known as 'Pharisaism' in Judea in the time of Jesus was based exclusively upon the Talmud. The Talmud today exercises virtual totalitarian dictatorship over the lives of Jews, whether they are aware of that fact or not. . . and Talmudic Law has been incorporated into U.S. and International law (more on that later).

From The World's Troublemakers read carefully and consider the implications of the following paragraph from the Jewish Encyclopedia. Jews and Judeo-Christians alike, read each word as though it were highlighted, italicized, and underlined.

"This is the continuation of Phariseeism, as acknowledged in the Jewish Encyclopedia under the word 'Pharisee':

Henceforth, Jewish life was regulated by the teachings of the Pharisees.

The whole history of Judaism was reconstructed from the Pharisaic point of view, and a new aspect was given to the Sanhedrin of the past.

Pharisaism shaped the character of Judaism and the life and thoughts of the Jew for all the future.

Rabbi Louis Finkelstein, in his book The Pharisee, confirms this and says:

"The spirit of the ancient Pharisee survived unaltered!"

On this basis, whenever the word 'Jew' is used we should remember that it refers to the Pharisees. This group believes now, as it did then, that it has been specially chosen by its own particular god to exercise dominion over all other groups, and that any means to this end has divine sanction."

From the Library of Congress' Dead Sea Scrolls website we find another assertion that modern Judaism IS Pharisaism; that is... Talmudism:

"... With the destruction of the Temple and the commonwealth in 70 C.E., all that came to an end. Only the Judaism of the Pharisees -- Rabbinic Judaism -- survived." ...."

http://www.sweetliberty.org/perspective/jewishpersecution7.htm

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[and then the author gets off-track. i will address what he said here:

"...Douglas Reed, in his Controversy of Zion, sheds some light on the question of authenticity of the Old Testament. As an aside, his book title is taken from Isaiah 34. The dust jacket of the original publication bears a photocopy of the page from the Bible, beginning with verse 6:

The sword of the Lord is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the Lord hath a sacrifice in Boz'rah, and a great slaughter in the land of Id-du-me'-a.

And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls, and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of the recompenses for the controversy of Zion.

Slaughter, blood, destruction, blood, curses, vengeance and more bloody passages abound in the Old Testament. I wonder, where is the love?..."

First, I choose these related verses and commentaries from Biblical scholars:

Psalm 137:7

Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

Isaiah 63:1

Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.

Isaiah 65:12

Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.

http://biblehub.com/kjv/isaiah/34-6.htm

[before i get to the commentaries, re-tool your mind with this:

from Edom is in modern jewry

· “from then on [Edomites] constituted a part of the jewish people, Herod being one of their descendants”, The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, 1966 Doubleday & Company, Inc , Garden City, New York, Pg. 592.

· why does the jewish encyclopedia mention that "edom is in modern jewry"? that is their own writings not the klan! why the kkk reference and where is your proof? "EDOM IS IN MODERN JEWRY." The Jewish Ency. 1925 Ed., Vol. 5, Pg. 41.

· the [non-Israelite] Edomites became a section of the Jewish people. "EDOM," Encyclopaedia Judaica (Jerusalem, Israel: Encyclopaedia Judaica Company, 1971) Vol. 6, p. 378

· They [the non-Israelite Edomites] were then incorporated with the Jewish nation…. "EDOM, IDUMEA," The Jewish Encyclopedia (New York & London: Funk and Wagnalls Company, 1904) Vol. V, p. 41

· …from then on they [the non-Israelite Edomites] constituted a part of the Jewish people, Herod [King of Judea] being one of their descendants. "EDOM (Idumea)," The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia (Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, Inc., 1977) p. 589

· …they [the Edomites] were hereafter no other than [non-Israelite] Jews. Flavius Josephus, The Antiquities of the Jews (Grand Rapids, MI: Dregel Publications, 1960) Book XIII, Chapter IX, Verse 1, p. 279

....These are who are known and identified as International Jewry today; they themselves state that "Modern Jewry is Edom." There is Edom [Esau is called Edom in Genesis 36:8. And Edom is in 'Modern Jewry' Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Vol. 5, p. 41......]

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/edomites.htm / http://fathersmanifesto.net/jewsareesau.htm

this is hatefully delivered, and i apologize, but then again, so are the talmud and the 'noahide laws' hateful. no one has to take these cursed people on themselves, even the ancient edomites...a remnant of them will be saved too. Christ is a God of grace, not race: http://biblehub.com/revelation/5-9.htm

perhaps, while we are on this subject we should also take a closer look at one of the above articles, because it ties in with PIZZAGATE:

Esau, Edomites, Phoenicians, Canaanites & Jews

In a time when "children" are the big focus in the country, the historical pagan sacrifice of children to Baal becomes relevant.

Baal was the power worshipped by the Canaanites as God. He is the bull god and is represented by a bull. He is half man and half bull, the god of fertility (the Sun God). In Egypt he was known as the Son of the Nile or Ra. He possessed Akhnaton (i.e. he who is pleasing to Aton), the husband of Nefertiti (i.e. possessed by Ashtaroh). Nefertiti was the originator of the Rosicrucians and the Masons. Baal promotes false religion and religious prostitution (as well as shrine prostitutes). J. P. Timmons, Mysterious Secrets of the Dark Kingdom p. 114 (1991).

Moloc was a Canaanite deity associated with human sacrifices. Mainly, child sacrifices. A bronze statue with the head of an ox and body of a man was erected, and infants would be placed in it to burn. Moloch may have been the Baal-Hammon worshiped in the cities of Tyre and Carthage. His name means "the lord of the altar of incense." ...."

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/edomites.htm

"...Whether you are an atheist or a Muslim or a Christian theist, it does not matter. You do not have to believe that the entities they talk about actually exist, the point is that they believe "Lucifer" and "Moloch" are real, and that by participating in blood letting and debauchery without limit they are thereby privy to hidden knowledge, technologies, and strength.

When they cut open children and drink the blood, they get a biochemical rush, and it only serves to strengthen their belief in "Luciferianism" or the other silly gods they serve. ..." http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=61008

now compare the sign at Comet Pizza http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=61053

with the statue of Baphomet http://www.google.com/search?q=b...5#imgrc=bUKoY-oUBvcowM%3A / http://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/whoisbaphomet/ : note the crescent moon and the pentagram on both, and while you're at it, check out the pose further down the google page of the statue of the half-naked george washington...connect the dots.]

now, from the commentaries:

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

34:1-8 Here is a prophecy of the wars of the Lord, all which are both righteous and successful. All nations are concerned. And as they have all had the benefit of his patience, so all must expect to feel his resentment. The description of bloodshed suggests tremendous ideas of the Divine judgments. Idumea here denotes the nations at enmity with the church; also the kingdom of antichrist. Our thoughts cannot reach the horrors of that awful season, to those found opposing the church of Christ. There is a time fixed in the Divine counsels for the deliverance of the church, and the destruction of her enemies. We must patiently wait till then, and judge nothing before the time. Through Christ, mercy is exercised to every believer, consistently with justice, and his name is glorified....

[[[and judge nothing before the time...is that time now??? http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/4-5.htm / http://biblehub.com/ecclesiastes/12-14.htm PIZZAGATE!!]]]

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary 6. filled—glutted. The image of a sacrifice is continued.

blood … fat—the parts especially devoted to God in a sacrifice (2Sa 1:22).

lambs … goats—sacrificial animals: the Idumeans, of all classes, doomed to slaughter, are meant (Zep 1:7).

Bozrah—called Bostra by the Romans, &c., assigned in Jer 48:24 to Moab, so that it seems to have been at one time in the dominion of Edom, and at another in that of Moab (Isa 63:1; Jer 49:13, 20, 22); it was strictly not in Edom, but the capital of Auranitis (the Houran). Edom seems to have extended its dominion so as to include it (compare La 4:21). Matthew Poole's Commentary Is filled with blood; shall drink its fill of blood. The metaphor is here taken from a great glutton or drunkard, who is almost insatiable with meat and drink.

With the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: by, lambs, and goats, and rams, he means people of all ranks and conditions, high and low, rich and poor. A sacrifice; so he calleth this bloody work, because it was done by God’s command, and for his honour; and therefore was a service acceptable to him.

Bozrah; a chief city of Edom, Isaiah 63:1 Jeremiah 49:13, and a type of those cities which should be most opposite and mischievous to God’s people. Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

The sword of the Lord is filled with blood,.... Multitudes being slain by it; the "Lord" here is that divine Person that is described as a warrior, as a General of an army, with a sharp sword, by whom many are slain, such a number as that it is filled with the blood of them, Revelation 19:11,

it is made fat with fatness: not only filled with the blood, but fattened by it; the allusion is to ravenous creatures gorged and sated with the blood of others, and thereby made fat; perhaps this may refer to Christian princes, the sword in the hand of the Lord, who shall be enriched with the plunder and spoil of the antichristian states:

and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams. The Targum is,

"with the blood of kings and governors, with the fat of the kidneys princes;''

and Jarchi interprets them, of princes and rulers; but rather the common people are designed, or the common soldiers in the army, or however the inferior officers of it; kings, princes, and generals, being intended in the following verse Isaiah 34:7. It denotes the great carnage of all sorts and ranks of men made at this time, and which is described in Revelation 19:18,

for the Lord hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea: there seems to be two Bozrahs the Scripture speaks of, the one in Moab, Jeremiah 48:24 and another in Edom, Isaiah 63:1 which is here meant, and was a chief city of the Edomites, and signifies a fortress, being no doubt a place well fortified; this is the Bostra of Ptolemy (k), and which he places in Arabia Petraea. Aben Ezra says that some interpret it of Constantinople, the metropolis of the Ottoman empire; but it is best to understand it of Rome, as Menasseh ben Israel (l) does, and Idumea of the whole Roman jurisdiction; Rome being the chief city of the antichristian states, that great city, which John in his Revelation describes as reigning over the kings of the earth; here and in all the antichristian kingdoms will be a great "slaughter" of men, called a "sacrifice" of the Lord, because by his order and direction, and for the honour of his justice, and being acceptable to him; and perhaps there may be an allusion to the blood sacrifices being the Lord's; this slaughter and sacrifice is called the supper of the great God, Revelation 19:17. .....

http://biblehub.com/commentaries/isaiah/34-6.htm / FULL TEXT OF ISAIAH 34: http://biblehub.com/kjv/isaiah/34.htm

I hope you are getting the jist of this. God perhaps has had His fill of their bloodshed and He's going to take a little blood sacrifice of His own....vengeance on His enemies, vengeance on the enemies of His church, vengeance on the RAPISTS, TORTURERS, AND MURDERERS OF CHILDREN; THEIR SACRIFICE TO MOLOCH, LUCIFER, ETC. MUST BE AVENGED - VENGEANCE IS MINE, SAITH THE LORD!!! IS HE NOT JUSTIFIED???!!!!

Now. I have a different interpretation of Bozrah. ...and good...i am running out of time and a search shows there are others that are thinking the same thing. "Bozrah" LITERALLY means SHEEPFOLD. Jesus is the Good Shepherd who would take His Lost Sheep into their own land. See Ezekiel 34 and John 10. There is no doubt in my mind that land is America [ http://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/print/ ...none, zero, zip doubt]. This Isaiah 34 prophecy may refer to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, to be completely fulfilled in America, when Christ's sword comes down on the heads of the murdering, obstinate "Edomites", the antichrist Jews and all the forces that have joined with them against Christ and His people.

okay, i have looked at a couple of those sites, and they are close but no cigar. however, they did spare me having to look up a couple of other passages that were in my mind:

"Who is this who comes from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah, this One who is glorious in His apparel, traveling in the greatness of His strength? -“I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save.” Why is Your apparel red, and Your garments like one who treads in the winepress? “I have trodden the winepress alone, and from the peoples no one was with Me. For I have trodden them in My anger, and trampled them in My fury; their blood is sprinkled upon My garments, and I have stained all My robes. For the day of vengeance is in My heart, and the year of My redeemed has come.” (Isa. Isa. 63:1-4)

hold on, maybe i misjudged one of them. i skimmed a bit of it after reading it got its thoughts from endtimepilgrim, which is a deceptively antichrist sight. this excerpt is good, with one deletion:

"...Sheepfold

The sheepfolds of Israel were like fortresses of protection for the sheep, not only from thieves but from predators like wolves, lions, and bears. The enclosure contained a door, an opening for the sheep to come in and go out. And it was at this opening that the shepherd would lie, so that he could intercept the thief or the predator before they could get to the sheep. The shepherd would also inspect each of a sheep as it passed under his rod at the door of the sheepfold. [[[see also Ezekiel 20! Judgment and Restoration

33As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you: 34And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out. 35And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face. 36Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD. 37And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant: 38And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD. http://biblehub.com/kjv/ezekiel/20.htm ...John 10: I AM the door to the sheep(fold) http://biblehub.com/john/10-9.htm - God's immigration policy for America.]]] In the morning the shepherd would call his sheep and they would exit the fold because they knew his voice. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. John 10:1 KJV As we examine the specific passage in which the Lord is identified as “the Breaker,” denoting His specific purpose in the passage, we recognize that this passage is not about national, ethnic Israel’s return from captivity in Babylon. It is about spiritual Israel’s protection in the Babylonian world system by the presence of the Lord among us, and our ultimate deliverance... I will surely assemble, O Jacob, all of thee; I will surely gather the remnant of Israel…(spiritual Israel, the “Israel of God”)…; I will put them together as the sheep of Bozrah, as the flock in the midst of their fold: they shall make great noise by reason of the multitude of men. The breaker is come up before them: they have broken up, and have passed through the gate, and are gone out by it: and their king shall pass before them, and the LORD on the head of them. Micah 2:12,13 KJV... Jacob (the trickster) in this passage represents the rebellious and disobedient elect who will ultimately become the remnant spiritual Israel, the “Israel of God.” Although this passage includes the elect among national, ethnic Israel, it is not about the deliverance of national, ethnic Israel from their Babylonian captivity. It 3 is about the ultimate deliverance of the “sheep” from the fallen Babylonian world system....and the “remnant of Israel” in this passage is the church, which is now one new man in Christ. “Bozrah” has the literal meaning of “fortress,” but like many biblical names it also identifies a literal city in Edom, the cursed land of Esau, which represents the entire Babylonian world system. Thus “Bozrah” is a fortress, a sheepfold for the protection of the sheep in the middle of the Babylonian world system at the height of the Antichrist rule and reign.[[[now]]]

This is not a physical fortress [[[he/she may be correct, but i disagree...Christians are being horribly persecuted around the globe biblehub.com/revelation/20-9.htm but when their enemies come against the "beloved city" of Rev. 20:9, the prophetic "land of israel" biblehub.com/ezekiel/38-18.htm , where the true Israel people (Christians) live, the "city" whose builder and maker is God: America: www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/print/ ; the "Bozrah" or "sheepfold" where Christ brought them, is attacked...as Ezekiel 38 says, the fury will come into His face. Ezekiel 38-39 also talk of the bloody sacrifice God will make]]], as men without revelation have presumed, imagining that the fleeing woman (spiritual Israel) in Revelation 12 will be airlifted by 747s into some remote wilderness setting. [[[that would be endtimepilgrim]]] It is a spiritual fortress in the midst of the world. Thus Bozrah is the spiritual wilderness in which the woman clothed with the sun, the “Israel of God,” is upheld by the wings of the great eagle, the Holy Spirit...."

http://www.theendtimeschurch.org/articles/The%20Bozrah%20Deliverance.pdf [i haven't read the rest of it.] ...and i have to go...

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

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