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Title: IQ: A Skeptic’s View
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URL Source: http://www.unz.com/freed/iq-a-skeptics-view/
Published: Jan 14, 2017
Author: Fred Reed
Post Date: 2017-01-14 16:58:16 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 231
Comments: 4

Intelligence is worth talking about because both the reality of intelligence and perceptions regarding intelligence set limits on the possible and influence policy. For example, if the population of India on average really is below borderline retardation, the country can never amount to anything. If Latino immigrants really are as stupid as white nationalists hope, then they will always inhabit an underclass and, through intermarriage, enstupidate the American population. IQists–those who believe that IQ is a reliable measure of intelligence–insist that intelligence is largely genetic, which it obviously is, and that IQ tests reliably measure it. The latter is doubtful.

A bit of history: For years I was on Steve Sailer’s Human-Biodiversity List, now defunct. It focused on IQ and on natural selection with the fervor of snake-handlers in the backwoods of North Carolina. Contradictions in their views were stark in regard to intelligence, which was assumed identical to IQ. In communities of like-thinking enthusiasts, contradictions go unnoticed.

For example, American blacks, the Irish, and Mexicans had IQs accepted by the list as being 85, 86, and 87 respectively—almost identical. It seemed odd to me that identical IQs had produced (a) the on-going academic disaster of American blacks (b) an upper Third World country running the usual infrastructure of telecommunications, medicine, airlines, and so on, and (c) a First World European country. This, though IQist doctrine argued vociferously that IQ correlates closely with achievement. Well, it didn’t.

I was struck by the perfect acceptance of these numbers even though they made no sense. IQists simply do not question IQ. I pointed out the obvious conclusion, that if Mexicans could run the infrastructure of modern nations, decent if not spectacular universities, and so on, then so, on the basis of IQ, could blacks—none of which they in fact do, or have done.

When I pointed this out, there came the IQist shuck-and-jive: Well, black IQ you see was actually a bit lower, 83 or maybe even 81, and maybe the Mexicans were as much as 89 or even 90, etc. That is, IQ varies with the argument being made. (For the record, Mexicans have been promoted from 87 to 90, IQ being remarkably fluid.)

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Let's judge people by the results of their actions, not some paper test.

Be objective, not subjective.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2017-01-14   17:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

Some of the comments were more interesting than Fred's article, specifically those dealing with culture.

Ada  posted on  2017-01-14   17:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0)

The Irish IQ is higher than 90!! IQ studies on black twins separated at birth were not good for blacks. Black children of Ivy League college grads did worse at college than the poorest whites whose parents never went to college.

I believe IQ is related to reincarnation. If you do not develop a brain in this life, you won't have one in the next one either.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2017-01-14   18:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#0)

In addition to mental speed, persistence, error checking and switching to a different circuit (getting out of a rut), IQ score would also depend on one's familiarity with concepts and procedures involved in the IQ test.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2017-01-14   21:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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