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Title: Rutgers bars band (PokerFace) after critics object
Source: Home News Tribune Online
URL Source: http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... =/20060222/NEWS01/602220401&Se
Published: Feb 27, 2006
Author: Chris Jordan
Post Date: 2006-02-27 09:09:06 by christine
Keywords: (PokerFace), Rutgers, critics
Views: 6730
Comments: 86

The controversial band Poker Face, labeled by critics as anti-Semitic and racist, will not be performing at this year's state Libertarian Party convention, scheduled for Saturday at the Rutgers University Inn and Conference Center in New Brunswick.

The performance has been canceled because University Inn managers are enforcing the Inn's rule that states no live music will be performed while other events are taking place there, said Ray Caprio, Rutgers University vice president of Continuous Education and Outreach. Caprio acknowledged that a letter critical of the band's appearance was sent to Rutgers president Richard L. McCormick.

Poker Face performed at the same convention in the same venue last year.

Critics of the group said the performance was called off after protesters — chiefly activist Daryle Lamont Jenkins of the Jersey City-based anti-racist One People's Project — voiced concerns about the group's message.

"Just because you have the freedom of speech doesn't mean you have the right to be heard if you're intolerant," said Jenkins, a former New Brunswick resident. "Anti-Semitic people or Nazis always say they have a right to believe what they wish.

"We're talking about people who are trying to deny that right to others."

Poker Face's "songs are about love, life and liberty with powerful and poignant lyrics and a rich sound reminiscent of Boston and Pink Floyd," a Libertarian National Party press release stated.

The forum section on the band's Web site, http://www.pokerface.com, contains articles posted — but not authored — by lead singer Paul Topete. The articles call Martin Luther King Jr. a Communist, speculate on whether Israel had a hand in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, and provide a list of Jewish CEOs of media companies in the United States and Britain.

Topete said the band is drawing fire for speaking openly about controversial subjects.

"We expose Zionist crimes and if you expose Zionist crimes, you're an anti-Semite," Topete said. "I can expose black crimes, I can expose Hispanic crimes, but if I expose Zionist crimes, people are so Semite-sensitive that you can't expose them, because right away you get labeled an anti-Semite."

Barry Weinstein of New York is a supporter of the band who accompanied Topete to a Home News Tribune interview in New Brunswick yesterday.

"I'm Jewish, and I don't find Paul Topete or the band to be anti-Semitic," Weinstein said. "What I find is an inquiring mind looking to find out what is going on."

Topete, who is strongly anti-illegal immigration, also denied the charges of racism, stating he's part Mexican.

Topete said he plans to address the convention on Saturday about the controversy if his appearance doesn't conflict with a new show the band just booked for that day. Topete declined to say where the new show was to take place.

Tom Howard of Edison, who has been following the band's career, has been outspoken in his criticism.

"The thing about the band is that they're not explicitly white power or blatantly racist, a band like Poker Face tries to hide behind a lot of other things," Howard said. "They try to hide it by putting it in very mainstream packaging but it also sends a very wrong message."

Jeffrey Pawlowski of Sayreville, who ran for governor of New Jersey on the Libertarian Party ticket last year, said he was not aware of the controversy, but said if he found Poker Face to be anti-Semitic or racist, he would confront the band.

"I personally hope it's not true," Pawlowski said. "Their music is inspiring and they played for free."

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#2. To: christine (#0)

Just a reminder: Paul will be on with Michael Collins Piper tonight at 7 EST. @ http://www.RBNLIVE.com.

Ground_Control  posted on  2006-02-27   10:34:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ground_Control, pokerkid (#2)

Poker Face bump!

christine  posted on  2006-02-27   13:32:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, Ground_Control (#3)

This is a repost from an email I sent to a friend that was PO-ed that we were being attacked by the some are more special then others club...

Please flag others.... pk

SPREAD THIS FAR AND WIDE.

OPP - One Peoples Project was sicked on us by jewish supremacist groups like the ADL, SPLC and SWC according to one article. Below at the end of this rant are the 3 OPP Hit pieces on us. If you goto their site, you will see they attack proAmerica groups like the minutemen by calling them the minuteKLAN.

WE have had 3 hit pieces done by Daryle lamont jenkins of the One Peoples Party in the last Month. We have been a focus of the ADLs attention/affection for sometime, but increased when our support for the jailed Revisionist Historians became very vocal. These Historians have been picked up over the last six months from around the world, charged and jailed for their thought crimes for having a difference of opinion about the holocaust, or as we like to say HOLOHAUX.

As an American who values his freedoms, I have been following the drama over the holocaust industry, as Norm Finklesten puts it and i agree with, for many years now. With the arrest of over a dozen historians of the likes of David Irving who was just sentenced to 3 years for going astray of the holocaust orthodoxy, this is now becoming THEE free Speach/Free Thought issue of the new millenium, which is affecting the world and shortly this country if folks like Sen Kennedy gets his HATE crimes BILL thru.

I dont care how people might FEEL about this issue, because a court is NOT a place to adjucate feelings. The courts are to be used for transgressions for violations of RIGHTS and property damage. Like Marley said, no victim No crime.

Right now there is only ONE historical event that NO ONE can talk about, print their viewpoints about, that can veer one iota from what the keepers of this Orthodoxy is. If you dont regurgitate it word for word (which keeps changing over the years) then you will be brought before a German/Austrian/Israeli/Kanada court for your Thought/Speach crimes.

If you dont believe in Christ, thats OK you dont go to jail, nor is any Christian calling for laws like that. Nor should anyone go to jail. But.... diverge from the holocaust script and they will lock you up for years. There are thousands of folks in jail because of their thought/speach crimes.

-Plenty of people, including Jews and Israelis, deny the Turkish genocide against the Armenians in World War One, without any legal consequences. So why does this EVENT merit this.

As an American THIS APPALLS ME. If we allow for this crap to stand then other issues/ideas will be outlawed like questioning your governments crimes against we the people. Who gets to play censor god. Once the door opens down this road, there is NO turning back. What has ALWAYS set America apart from the rest of the world is our First Amendment RIGHTS, which as a patriotic America First band we support just like the 2nd Amendment in the past. Its not a popular stand to take, but white folk trying to stop this get labeled the racist/anti semite much easier then this government labeled minority -me the mexican - hyphen - American

OPP are also harrasing the minutemen, they call them the minuteKLAN, they also hate Ann Coulter, Joe Paterno, CPAC and a host of other conservative organizations. They provide support the african-american Mummia who killed the white cop in philly.

We just played at the PA Minutemen meeting this past saturday Feb 25th at the Crowne Plaza hotel in King of Prussia PA. Had 12 of the America hating pro Marxist pro Illegal immigration OPP gang parading around outside of the parking lot. Chanting MinuteKLAN and anti-pokerface diddys.. :D

While there, we got to meet up with our friends Chris Simcox founder of the minutemen and JJ Johnson from SierraTimes who was doing a remote broadcast for wireless stream network. JJ interviewed a bunch of the commies, where they admitted to being communists, and that they respected no boundaries, and that workers of the world have a right to yours and mine jobs.

It has been a pretty interesting week working up to the weekend. OPP and the mainstream media tried to make us non-people by slandering us with terms that do not fit us, and expected us to cower over their much overabused expression of... you are a RACIST... You are an anti-semite... bow down on our alter of holohauxianity... yada, yada, yada. Since then, the support we have been getting is overwhelminly positive. People/Groups that never heard about us, or paid much attention are voicing their support in our stand for what is right. Please spread the word amongst the freedom loving people that you know. This will help expose our detractors for the America haters, 5th column cuddlers that they are.

When I went tuesday for the interview with the NJ Home News Tribune. I took along one of my jewish friends (who voluteered to go as soon as he heard this crap was going on) to address the charges of being an anti-semite ( one who HATES jews) I dont hate ANY person, or group, until they ask for special rights or priveledges. When calling them out on it, this is how they react. When Chris North sat down with Barry and I, the look on his face was precious, he wasnt expecting that. WE expose several items like Black Reparations, Sending illegal immigrants home and several other issues we focus on as a band, but it is only when you step on supremacist jew toes the shizen hits the fan.

I am being called a racist because I support control of our borders. If the FEDS or the States arent going to do their job to stop the illegal invasion, then groups like the minutemen are stepping up to the plate to do their job for them. They have tried to call Chris Simcox a racist, an anti-Mexican.. Last year I went lobbying with Chris Simcox, John Clarke, JJ Johnson (black American from the militia days and Sierra Tiems) and myself to provide a colored front so that the senators couldnt be swayed by the lies that chris or his organization are racist.. Oh did i tell you I am half mexican.. Love Mexicans. But love them to stay home where they should be instead of the NAFTA economic refugees that they are and are only looking for a livable wage they cant get in Mexico.

Who ever is Daryle Lamont Jenkins handler didnt inform him completely to my back ground. I have been doing several interviews this past week, and am trying to get a debate at Rutgers thru the Libertarian Partys on Campus group to debate this dood, to show the tudents who the real America Hater is, and how his helping the illegals is paramount to treason by providing comfort and aid to this potential 5th column being groomed for a possible civil war.

Over the years i have been out spoken about jewish supremacist isues that affect our country. I know that it puts me on the chopping block by those that have been programmed with a semite sensitivity like pavlovian response to cry out when any mention of the word jew or jewish is uttered. The programming is so deep that people shut down their rational thinking process, and just emote, feeling too much that their brains shut down for any possible discussion of the subjects at hand.

Its funny or sad i dont know which.. I can have some of the most honest discussions with my American jewish friends or Israeli friends over many of these same subjects. Some of them we agree to disagree with, but the last thing they will say is that I hate jews. I dont. I hate the Supremacism that some do, and then gets a pass in the press. Every other supremacism gets exposed and we all clap. But expose the action of some groups like the ADL/SWC/SPLC AIPAC/WJC etc... and the false charges come flying out. It is to such a degree that the term is bantered about so much , its like peter crying wolf, and losing its effect, that when a real case of it happens, it wont be dealt with the way that it should be.

Christine - you probably saw this on Michael Riveros site http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ . I had asked him a few days ago to post this and he was more then happy to provide the support. Since that time the tide has been turning in our favor both in the press, radio as well as the RUTGERS student body.

If we dont make a stand today here and now regardless if some peoples sensibilities are hurt, then the America of tomorrow will be looking a lot different. If not me now, then who will do it later.

Free speach is not always pretty speach, I may disagree with what you say, but I will support your Right to say it. peace paul from poker face

ps Regarding the HOLOCAUST - I/PF do not disagree that some jews died during the war 129,000 according to the IRC (International Red Cross), nor that millions of european lives where put in upheaval, but... a final solution has NEVER been found in any of the German documents. They have tried to make some things say what it doesnt. But what has been found and buried are items like the HAAVARA agreement ( I wish that everyone would look this up and read for yourselves what is NOT taught to us) the Haavara agreement was signed by Hitler and the zionist leadership that allowed German jews to emmigrate to Palestine between 1933-1938 where over half a million german jews took them up on it and where allowed to take ALL of their belongings with them. Also if they had a factory in Germany, they were helped to create the same factory in Israel.

After learning this, does hitler wanting to kill jews make any sense??? uh- NO, or how about the first time the cry of a holocaust was put out right after WW1, thats right 1 not 2. World Jewry or Zionism have been pushing for the jews to move to Palestine/Israel since before the 20th century. A good book to read about this true history is here: Volume 6: Don Heddesheimer, The First Holocaust. Jewish Fund Raising Campaigns With Holocaust Claims During And After World War One Supported with many publications, in particular from The New York Times, the author shows that between 1916 and the late 1920s, mainly American Jewish organizations were claiming that up to six million Jews(!) would suffer terribly in Eastern Europe and would face a holocaust if they did not receive massive aid. http://www.vho.org/store/USA/bresult.php?ID=80

What I have found out in this life is that TRUTH needs No help from the law, it just needs exposure. ONLY LIES NEED HELP from the law with the threat of imprisonment to boot.

** The gist of this controversy: is not "denial" of Nazi persecution of some Jews but the effort to strong-arm how that persecution is presented and discussed. The "Holocaust" industry has set itself up as a global "Ministry of Truth," with the power to dictate "newspeak," put discussions down the "memory hole," and declare recalcitrants "unpersons." It has positioned itself as an enemy of freedom, not as a friend of the Jews.**

let the truth chips fall where they may. There is much I can comment, but I wanted to reply to you before I went to practice tonight. Again, NO ONE IN A FREE SOCIETY GOES TO JAIL BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. NO ONE. -------------------------------------- Latest from the Zundel Camp: Earths number 1 public enemy in the eyes of the Censors of HISTORY

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

THIS IS A MOST SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT!

If ever you needed a sample of media disinformation, the New York article below is blatant, in-your-face chutzpah disinformation!

I am sure that some of our more scholarly oriented revisionists will have a thing or two to say about this piece of "news" - I will merely give you a taste for what this is really all about from what I gathered in conversation with Ernst.

When I first met Ernst and started to learn about the vast deception called the "Holocaust", I asked him: "If you had only one wish to be fulfilled to clean up this mess, what would that be?" and his reply was: "To have the records of Arolsen be open to the public. We could settle this matter once and for all. With computer data bases, it could be done in a few weeks!"

As I heard later it from others, it is Revisionists who want the Arolsen documents be made available. It is the Holocaust Lobby that has blocked access since 1979 - the year the Holocaust-debunking Institute for Historical Review was founded!

Why are they clamouring NOW to have them be opened? So they can get their hands on the vital statistics of what really did and did not happen - and maybe start a little accidental fire? My guess is that either Ernst or Germar Rudolf pushed to have those archives be opened!

By the way, Biedermann testified in Ernst's 1988 Holocaust Trial in Toronto, an excerpt of which is on the Zundelsite, http://www.zundelsite.org/english/dsmrd/dsmrd10biedermann.html

Read what that lying rag, the New York Times, has to say:

U.S. - German Flare-Up Over Vast Nazi Camp Archives http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/20/international/europe/20germany.html

I never mean to hurt anyones feelings, especially in regards to the holocaust. But.... feelings get trumped when Rights are attacked. ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Below is some of the background to this crap:

This is when the OPP Drama began: Thursday, 12 January 2006

1st OPP hitpiece FREE REPUBLIC'S ANTI-SEMITIC HOUSE BAND POKER FACE SCHEDULED TO PERFORM AT LIBERTARIAN CONVENTION http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/site/index.php?option=com _content&task=view&id=905&Itemid=2.

2nd OPP hitpiece, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 Basic reprint of the first one, except with Zach Morris name attached to it POKER FACE GETTING A HAND DEALT TO THEM BY RUTGERS STUDENTS http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/site/index.php?option=com_ content&task=view&id=917&Itemid=2.

3rd OPP hit piece Tuesday, 21 February 2006 POKER FACE GIG AT RUTGERS UNIVERSITY CANCELED AFTER STUDENTS MOUNT PROTEST - DLJ has so many so called facts, just plain wrong. His zionazi handlers arent advising him to well. http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/site/index.php?option=com_ content&task=view&id=921&Itemid=2.

pokerkid  posted on  2006-02-27   15:37:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: pokerkid (#4)

If we dont make a stand today here and now regardless if some peoples sensibilities are hurt, then the America of tomorrow will be looking a lot different. If not me now, then who will do it later.

Right on, brother! I've been spreading the word on NOLAJBS and LF(betwen mysql errors). I will try to get through on the phone lines tonight. Peace!

Ground_Control  posted on  2006-02-27   18:24:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ground_Control (#14)

Are you still able to get on LF? I stopped trying.

JRadcliffe  posted on  2006-02-27   19:32:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: JRadcliffe, pokerkid, Christine (#15)

Are you still able to get on LF? I stopped trying.

It's hit and miss, same problem, different day. Paul, sorry I didn't get to say what I wanted to last night, kind of nervous. Did get to call them Nazi's though! :)Someone had to do it.

Ground_Control  posted on  2006-02-28   9:53:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ground_Control (#28)

Paul, sorry I didn't get to say what I wanted to last night, kind of nervous. Did get to call them Nazi's though! :)Someone had to do it.

Were you one of the callers?

It was a good show, was it not?

JRadcliffe  posted on  2006-02-28   15:07:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: JRadcliffe, Christine (#32)

Were you one of the callers?

I'm not too happy with my RBN debut. :( I really wanted to compliment Paul and mention what a true patriot he is, but I choked. Couldn't spit it out. Sorry folks, I'll do better next time.

Ground_Control  posted on  2006-02-28   15:38:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ground_Control (#33)

Believe it or not, when I was young and stupid, I actually liked Rush Limpballs. I called into is show and when it came time for me to speak, I forgot what I wanted to say. Before I could remember, he was on to something else.

What a world...

JRadcliffe  posted on  2006-02-28   16:13:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: JRadcliffe (#34)

I haven't called into a show in years. Cspan must have banned me for talking Israeli involvement in 911. I didn't stop talking for a second. You can't or they'll cut you off. It's hard enough to get through, but when I do, they won't even pick up the phone.

Ground_Control  posted on  2006-02-28   17:58:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ground_Control, buckeroo, wbales, Elliott Jackalope, Bayonne, Jethro Tull, Zipporah, robin, Eoghan, Dakmar, buffycat. Lady X, Arete, mirage, Tauzero, abbracadabra, angle, aristeides, MUDDOG, Esso, Hmmmmm, bluegrass, Brian S, wacsog10, dinglebert, ALL (#36)

Thanks all for the kind comments. It seems that John Stadtmiller finally wants to have a chat with me. Christine, it looks like this coming monday 5-7 EST I will be having a chat with John about all of this crap that hit us last week/month.

Again the URL for RBN is http://www.rbnlive.com John Stadtmillers show 5-7pm this coming monday March6th Mark it down and please call in. (800) 313-9443

Christine, my awakening was even earlier then that. My mom has already read the cutting edge books into the cabal that is ruining this earth. At two, some of the first words out of my mouth were Rockyfella, and Rothychild, and bankers bad, seriously. The rest I gained by traveling all over the world and seeing how the other half lives. I got tons of stories, but will save them for another day.

GC - thanks for the call, you got another chance coming up.

hmmm. thats quite a collection of pauls favorites posted above... but you get the drift where we are coming from. Now its time to beat Americas enemies back with the truth to shut up their name calling of the R & the A

peace to all paul

pokerkid  posted on  2006-02-28   18:22:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: pokerkid (#37)

Christine, my awakening was even earlier then that. My mom has already read the cutting edge books into the cabal that is ruining this earth. At two, some of the first words out of my mouth were Rockyfella, and Rothychild, and bankers bad, seriously. The rest I gained by traveling all over the world and seeing how the other half lives.

I'm amazed...really. I'll try to call in when you're on John's show next Monday. I'm like G_C though--air shy. ;)

christine  posted on  2006-02-28   19:18:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: christine (#46)

I'm like G_C though--air shy.

Let's see, BULLSHIT comes to mind. Give'em hell!

Hmmmmm  posted on  2006-02-28   19:25:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Hmmmmm (#48)

do you know how many times i've been in studio with john and bill and haven't said a word? :P

christine  posted on  2006-02-28   19:29:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine (#49)

do you know how many times i've been in studio with john and bill and haven't said a word? :P

You've been in a studio?

Who the hell are you girl?

I don't care...I'm in love.

I live in California..You single?

;-)

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   19:32:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Mind_Virus, christine (#52)

You've been in a studio?

Who the hell are you girl?

I don't care...I'm in love.

I live in California..You single?

;-)

My job used to be to keep the freaks away from the stars. ;0)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-02-28   19:35:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: BTP Holdings (#53)

My job used to be to keep the freaks away from the stars. ;0)

LOL!!

I have a feeling Christine can take care of herself.

She knew what she was getting when she invited me to this forum.

Christine is a player.

As i've always said.."HATE THE GAME NOT THE PLAYER."

Christine is a sister in action..I like that. A true patriot.

She's got my backing.

If anyone attacks her on this board..Stand the fuck by...;-)

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   19:49:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Mind_Virus (#54)

oh, you sweet thing, you. ;)

christine  posted on  2006-02-28   19:51:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#57. To: christine (#55)

oh, you sweet thing, you. ;)

Thank ya babes..;-)

I'm a 100% fucking hellraiser.

Then again..You knew that..*grin*.

So what do ya say?

Lets ROCK this place!!

I like to see 5,000 members strong and growing by the minute.

I'll do my part.

You up to it?

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28 20:02:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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