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Title: Rutgers bars band (PokerFace) after critics object
Source: Home News Tribune Online
URL Source: http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... =/20060222/NEWS01/602220401&Se
Published: Feb 27, 2006
Author: Chris Jordan
Post Date: 2006-02-27 09:09:06 by christine
Keywords: (PokerFace), Rutgers, critics
Views: 6769
Comments: 86

The controversial band Poker Face, labeled by critics as anti-Semitic and racist, will not be performing at this year's state Libertarian Party convention, scheduled for Saturday at the Rutgers University Inn and Conference Center in New Brunswick.

The performance has been canceled because University Inn managers are enforcing the Inn's rule that states no live music will be performed while other events are taking place there, said Ray Caprio, Rutgers University vice president of Continuous Education and Outreach. Caprio acknowledged that a letter critical of the band's appearance was sent to Rutgers president Richard L. McCormick.

Poker Face performed at the same convention in the same venue last year.

Critics of the group said the performance was called off after protesters — chiefly activist Daryle Lamont Jenkins of the Jersey City-based anti-racist One People's Project — voiced concerns about the group's message.

"Just because you have the freedom of speech doesn't mean you have the right to be heard if you're intolerant," said Jenkins, a former New Brunswick resident. "Anti-Semitic people or Nazis always say they have a right to believe what they wish.

"We're talking about people who are trying to deny that right to others."

Poker Face's "songs are about love, life and liberty with powerful and poignant lyrics and a rich sound reminiscent of Boston and Pink Floyd," a Libertarian National Party press release stated.

The forum section on the band's Web site, http://www.pokerface.com, contains articles posted — but not authored — by lead singer Paul Topete. The articles call Martin Luther King Jr. a Communist, speculate on whether Israel had a hand in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, and provide a list of Jewish CEOs of media companies in the United States and Britain.

Topete said the band is drawing fire for speaking openly about controversial subjects.

"We expose Zionist crimes and if you expose Zionist crimes, you're an anti-Semite," Topete said. "I can expose black crimes, I can expose Hispanic crimes, but if I expose Zionist crimes, people are so Semite-sensitive that you can't expose them, because right away you get labeled an anti-Semite."

Barry Weinstein of New York is a supporter of the band who accompanied Topete to a Home News Tribune interview in New Brunswick yesterday.

"I'm Jewish, and I don't find Paul Topete or the band to be anti-Semitic," Weinstein said. "What I find is an inquiring mind looking to find out what is going on."

Topete, who is strongly anti-illegal immigration, also denied the charges of racism, stating he's part Mexican.

Topete said he plans to address the convention on Saturday about the controversy if his appearance doesn't conflict with a new show the band just booked for that day. Topete declined to say where the new show was to take place.

Tom Howard of Edison, who has been following the band's career, has been outspoken in his criticism.

"The thing about the band is that they're not explicitly white power or blatantly racist, a band like Poker Face tries to hide behind a lot of other things," Howard said. "They try to hide it by putting it in very mainstream packaging but it also sends a very wrong message."

Jeffrey Pawlowski of Sayreville, who ran for governor of New Jersey on the Libertarian Party ticket last year, said he was not aware of the controversy, but said if he found Poker Face to be anti-Semitic or racist, he would confront the band.

"I personally hope it's not true," Pawlowski said. "Their music is inspiring and they played for free."

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#36. To: JRadcliffe (#34)

I haven't called into a show in years. Cspan must have banned me for talking Israeli involvement in 911. I didn't stop talking for a second. You can't or they'll cut you off. It's hard enough to get through, but when I do, they won't even pick up the phone.

Ground_Control  posted on  2006-02-28   17:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ground_Control, buckeroo, wbales, Elliott Jackalope, Bayonne, Jethro Tull, Zipporah, robin, Eoghan, Dakmar, buffycat. Lady X, Arete, mirage, Tauzero, abbracadabra, angle, aristeides, MUDDOG, Esso, Hmmmmm, bluegrass, Brian S, wacsog10, dinglebert, ALL (#36)

Thanks all for the kind comments. It seems that John Stadtmiller finally wants to have a chat with me. Christine, it looks like this coming monday 5-7 EST I will be having a chat with John about all of this crap that hit us last week/month.

Again the URL for RBN is http://www.rbnlive.com John Stadtmillers show 5-7pm this coming monday March6th Mark it down and please call in. (800) 313-9443

Christine, my awakening was even earlier then that. My mom has already read the cutting edge books into the cabal that is ruining this earth. At two, some of the first words out of my mouth were Rockyfella, and Rothychild, and bankers bad, seriously. The rest I gained by traveling all over the world and seeing how the other half lives. I got tons of stories, but will save them for another day.

GC - thanks for the call, you got another chance coming up.

hmmm. thats quite a collection of pauls favorites posted above... but you get the drift where we are coming from. Now its time to beat Americas enemies back with the truth to shut up their name calling of the R & the A

peace to all paul

Poker Face - on the front line battle for our freedoms House Band of the 2nd American Revolution we all know is coming because of the treason in DC http://www.pokerface.com

pokerkid  posted on  2006-02-28   18:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: pokerkid (#37)

Rockyfella, and Rothychild,

Yes.....they are very,very involved.....architects, the both of them.

Grumble Jones  posted on  2006-02-28   18:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#0)

The controversial band Poker Face, labeled by critics as anti-Semitic and racist, will not be performing at this year's state Libertarian Party convention, scheduled for Saturday at the Rutgers University Inn and Conference Center in New Brunswick.

Jesus 'H' Christ!

I've lost all hope for the Libertarian Party.

A bunch of jews in disguise.

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   18:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Ground_Control (#36)

I don't even bother with the MSM anymore. It's all controlled by government. Our 'Land of the Free" (LOL) is the envy of Soviet Russia.

I don't watch TV. I do not listen to anything but RBN. And all my news comes from Internet sites I know I can trust. I am always so far ahead of the curve to most people I meet, it's unbelievable.

In speaking of the Truth, Henry David Thoreau once said: "Any Truth is better than make-believe ... rather than love, than money, than fame, give me Truth."

JRadcliffe  posted on  2006-02-28   18:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Mind_Virus (#39)

Mind Virus.... Dont diss the Libertarians. They stood up for us on numerous accounts, from the Rutgers Uniiversity student libertarians, to the regular party members, and the convention planners, all of them. It was a decision made by Rutgers University, and they alone.

In fact a few of the libertarians want to put together a debate on the Rutgers campus to discuss this 1st amendment atrocity that was allowed to be perpetrated against us and them, by calling out our detractors on a one on one, and expose the student body to this America hater, marxist rhetoric spewer and class warfare divider right before their eyes.

Free speach is free speach, not that some subjects are more special then others that we can or cant talk about. I hope that this event goes down. Somebody has to shut this antiAmerican F to the masses, so he cant hide anywhere.

I hope I cleared that up for you brother... pk

Poker Face - on the front line battle for our freedoms House Band of the 2nd American Revolution we all know is coming because of the treason in DC http://www.pokerface.com

pokerkid  posted on  2006-02-28   18:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: pokerkid (#37)

thats quite a collection of pauls favorites posted above...

Seems like you've been reading some of my stuff. ;0)

If you ever need any extra security let me know. I worked 11 years for Jam in Chicago.

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-02-28   18:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: pokerkid (#41)

expose the student body to this America hater, marxist rhetoric spewer and class warfare divider right before their eyes.

That is exactly what these statist creeps are. And they continually use the Orwellian tactic of maligning true patriots as traitors, America haters, Hitlerites, etc.

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-02-28   18:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Mind_Virus (#39)

I've lost all hope for the Libertarian Party. A bunch of jews in disguise.

Anarchocapitalism: Just Another Jewish Cult.


The one thing Professor Xavier and Magneto always agreed on was that the world should be safe for mutants.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-02-28   18:57:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: pokerkid (#41)

Mind Virus.... Dont diss the Libertarians. They stood up for us on numerous accounts, from the Rutgers Uniiversity student libertarians, to the regular party members, and the convention planners, all of them. It was a decision made by Rutgers University, and they alone.

There was no input from the Libertarian party?

I find this hard to believe considering all the elements at play here.

I'm all for a 1st Amendment bebate on the issue but i think it's too late to speak on that platform in light of the fact that you got axed.

The proper move would of been to allow you to play and ask question later.

You picking up what i'm putting down?

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   18:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: pokerkid (#37)

Christine, my awakening was even earlier then that. My mom has already read the cutting edge books into the cabal that is ruining this earth. At two, some of the first words out of my mouth were Rockyfella, and Rothychild, and bankers bad, seriously. The rest I gained by traveling all over the world and seeing how the other half lives.

I'm amazed...really. I'll try to call in when you're on John's show next Monday. I'm like G_C though--air shy. ;)

christine  posted on  2006-02-28   19:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Tauzero (#44)

Anarchocapitalism: Just Another Jewish Cult.

ANCAPS are clever in disguising their true nature.

Their loyalty resides with the state.

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   19:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: christine (#46)

I'm like G_C though--air shy.

Let's see, BULLSHIT comes to mind. Give'em hell!

“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795

Hmmmmm  posted on  2006-02-28   19:25:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Hmmmmm (#48)

do you know how many times i've been in studio with john and bill and haven't said a word? :P

christine  posted on  2006-02-28   19:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Mind_Virus, Tauzero (#47)

How about a little Free Market Anti-Capitalism, Mutualism

And don't miss the blog, http://mutualist.blogspot.com/

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-02-28   19:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: christine (#49)

But how many times have you said a word?

“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” – James Madison, Political Observations, 1795

Hmmmmm  posted on  2006-02-28   19:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine (#49)

do you know how many times i've been in studio with john and bill and haven't said a word? :P

You've been in a studio?

Who the hell are you girl?

I don't care...I'm in love.

I live in California..You single?

;-)

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   19:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Mind_Virus, christine (#52)

You've been in a studio?

Who the hell are you girl?

I don't care...I'm in love.

I live in California..You single?

;-)

My job used to be to keep the freaks away from the stars. ;0)

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-02-28   19:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: BTP Holdings (#53)

My job used to be to keep the freaks away from the stars. ;0)

LOL!!

I have a feeling Christine can take care of herself.

She knew what she was getting when she invited me to this forum.

Christine is a player.

As i've always said.."HATE THE GAME NOT THE PLAYER."

Christine is a sister in action..I like that. A true patriot.

She's got my backing.

If anyone attacks her on this board..Stand the fuck by...;-)

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   19:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Mind_Virus (#54)

oh, you sweet thing, you. ;)

christine  posted on  2006-02-28   19:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Mind_Virus (#54)

She knew what she was getting when she invited me to this forum.

Yep, and I've got bunches of stories from when I worked that gig.

I'll be pleased to stand on the edge of the mosh pit for a change rather than jumping into the mix. LOL

The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-02-28   19:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: christine (#55)

oh, you sweet thing, you. ;)

Thank ya babes..;-)

I'm a 100% fucking hellraiser.

Then again..You knew that..*grin*.

So what do ya say?

Lets ROCK this place!!

I like to see 5,000 members strong and growing by the minute.

I'll do my part.

You up to it?

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   20:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: BTP Holdings (#56)

I want to see activity on this board jump.

I want threads to move and shake.

It doesn't matter if you respond to my postings, as long as the board moves with a purpose.

I arrived at LibertyForum when there were 400 to 500 members.

I like to think that i had some influence on it's success.

Unfortunately for them management didn't move with the times.

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   20:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Mind_Virus (#58)

I arrived at LibertyForum when there were 400 to 500 members.

How long ago was that??

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-28   20:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Mind_Virus (#57)

I'm a 100% fucking hellraiser.

my fav type!

Lets ROCK this place!!

I like to see 5,000 members strong and growing by the minute.

I'll do my part.

You up to it?

hell, yeah! let's do it!

christine  posted on  2006-02-28   20:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Zipporah (#59)

How long ago was that??

I had 4 to 5 names on LF going back to early 2001.

Free Republic was gaining ground rapidly..Especially after the old Newsmax forum shut down..I believe in 1999 or 2000.

I still believe to this day that RimJob and his CPAC force bought out Newsmax.

The Newsmax forum back in the day was making waves.

Constituionalist & Bassman to name a few members were pro Libertarian and the shit was hitting the fan.

I woke up one day and the forum was gone..Newsmax had sold out.

There's been a forum war ever since.

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   20:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Mind_Virus (#61)

I had 4 to 5 names on LF going back to early 2001.

Free Republic was gaining ground rapidly..Especially after the old Newsmax forum shut down..I believe in 1999 or 2000.

I still believe to this day that RimJob and his CPAC force bought out Newsmax.

The Newsmax forum back in the day was making waves.

Constituionalist & Bassman to name a few members were pro Libertarian and the shit was hitting the fan.

I woke up one day and the forum was gone..Newsmax had sold out.

There's been a forum war ever since.

So LF pretty much peaked about a year ago or before? I joined FR in 98 and also posted on the old MSNBC boards....after they them down I only posted on FR. Then left for LP.. I often wondered what the deal was with JimRob when he would ban people or those that were seen as dissenters. he'd tell them go to LP.. thought that odd..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-28   20:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Zipporah (#62)

So LF pretty much peaked about a year ago or before? I joined FR in 98 and also posted on the old MSNBC boards....after they them down I only posted on FR. Then left for LP.. I often wondered what the deal was with JimRob when he would ban people or those that were seen as dissenters. he'd tell them go to LP.. thought that odd..

Free Republic IMO is a multi-million dollar propaganda machine financed by the jew controlled media / military complex.

RimJob might run the show but the FoxNews execs & Hollywood jew types pump a lot money into it to ensure the masses are kept in line.

I will expound on this later.

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   20:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: christine (#60)

hell, yeah! let's do it!

Can i at least get a hug first?

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   20:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Mind_Virus (#63)

Free Republic IMO is a multi-million dollar propaganda machine financed by the jew controlled media / military complex.

RimJob might run the show but the FoxNews execs & Hollywood jew types pump a lot money into it to ensure the masses are kept in line.

I will expound on this later.

Oh I dont disagree it's a propaganda machine.. but this is the first I've ever heard about Fox News etc.. pumping $$ into it.. I dont get though is how they could possibly collect that much money from posters.. and what could possibly cost him that much money to run FR? Just seems odd..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-28   20:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: BTP Holdings (#50)

Mutualism

I like the approach he suggests to rolling back the state and corporatism, but ultimately all forms of anarchism are guilty of the Fatal Conceit, IMO.

And no, he does not successfully resurrect the labor theory of value.

However, what he and the subjectivist economists (among whose number I count myself) generally do not spend much time thinking about -- or, if they have ideas on them, they do not inform their economics -- is religion, culture, ethnicity, and race. Given a sufficient degree of homogeneity along these vectors, something approaching a labor-value theory may prevail in a manner consistent with the more general and correct subjectivist framework.


The one thing Professor Xavier and Magneto always agreed on was that the world should be safe for mutants.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-02-28   22:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: christine, JRadcliffe, Ground_Control, buckeroo, wbales, Elliott Jackalope, Bayonne, Jethro Tull, Zipporah, robin, Eoghan, Dakmar, buffycat. Lady X, Arete, mirage, Tauzero, abbracadabra, angle, aristeides, MUDDOG, Esso, Hmmmmm, bluegrass, Brian S, wacsog (#46)

Looky looky.... OPP U dont know me gang, did another LOVE piece on us today... http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=928&Itemid=2

You got to love it that when your friends keep you posted on what is going on behind your back...

Also someone from OPP is monitoring this thread, you can see one of my posts from this thread posted on the accompanying OPP-FORUM thread here: http://www.oppforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=209

I hope that the people going to his site and reading my words, will actually take it upon themselves to look into the facts that I have posted about the hollowcause, they will learn for themselves where the TRUTH lays. I think most of the folks that he thinks support him, will come to know of his American Hating efforts and know him for his deeds.

peace pk

Poker Face - on the front line battle for our freedoms House Band of the 2nd American Revolution we all know is coming because of the treason in DC http://www.pokerface.com

pokerkid  posted on  2006-02-28   23:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: pokerkid (#67)

Who are these people.. I didnt see anything unless I missed it.. about us.. who runs that site etc?? They're going to report you to Kristinn :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-02-28   23:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Zipporah (#68)

OPP U dont know me, reposted my entire post #4 at the top of this thread here on his OPP Forum board: http://www.oppforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=209. thats what I was reffering to. peace pk

Poker Face - on the front line battle for our freedoms House Band of the 2nd American Revolution we all know is coming because of the treason in DC http://www.pokerface.com

pokerkid  posted on  2006-03-01   0:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: pokerkid (#67)

jeez...

What a bunch of uneducated infantile losers those twinks are.

They need to be educated in "I may not agree with what you have to say but I shall defend to the death your right to say it."

Censorship can be a pretty cool two-way street. The smear merchants get one guy censored, he puts on his own campaign and silences the opposition - and where does it end?

It would seem that OPP doesn't even want their own rights since they can't figure out this very simple concept.

mirage  posted on  2006-03-01   0:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Mind_Virus, Christine (#57)

I'll do my part.

You up to it?

He's not kidding!

Ground_Control  posted on  2006-03-01   0:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: JRadcliffe (#40)

I don't even bother with the MSM anymore.

I only listen to the first hr or so in the morning sometimes. Heard some pretty good calls got through a while back, plugging http://nowarforisrael.com and http://whatreallyhappened.com. Other than that, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Ground_Control  posted on  2006-03-01   1:00:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: mirage (#70)

Censorship can be a pretty cool two-way street.

But so far, its only been one way. Their way. That's why you can print defaming caricatures of Mohammad and call it free speech, or you can piss in a jar, place a crucifix with Christ in it and call it art, but you'd damn well better agree with the Joovision version of their little holyhoax.

Yep...so far, they've gotten their way. They have no reason to believe that it will be any different.

In speaking of the Truth, Henry David Thoreau once said: "Any Truth is better than make-believe ... rather than love, than money, than fame, give me Truth."

JRadcliffe  posted on  2006-03-01   1:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: pokerkid (#69)

I'd be curious to find out your opinion of The Birdman.


The one thing Professor Xavier and Magneto always agreed on was that the world should be safe for mutants.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-03-01   1:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: mirage (#70)

It would seem that OPP doesn't even want their own rights since they can't figure out this very simple concept.

Principles 4 and 116.


The one thing Professor Xavier and Magneto always agreed on was that the world should be safe for mutants.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-03-01   1:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Mind_Virus (#64)

Can i at least get a hug first?

come back here and get it!

christine  posted on  2006-03-01   9:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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