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Title: Rutgers bars band (PokerFace) after critics object
Source: Home News Tribune Online
URL Source: http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... =/20060222/NEWS01/602220401&Se
Published: Feb 27, 2006
Author: Chris Jordan
Post Date: 2006-02-27 09:09:06 by christine
Keywords: (PokerFace), Rutgers, critics
Views: 6795
Comments: 86

The controversial band Poker Face, labeled by critics as anti-Semitic and racist, will not be performing at this year's state Libertarian Party convention, scheduled for Saturday at the Rutgers University Inn and Conference Center in New Brunswick.

The performance has been canceled because University Inn managers are enforcing the Inn's rule that states no live music will be performed while other events are taking place there, said Ray Caprio, Rutgers University vice president of Continuous Education and Outreach. Caprio acknowledged that a letter critical of the band's appearance was sent to Rutgers president Richard L. McCormick.

Poker Face performed at the same convention in the same venue last year.

Critics of the group said the performance was called off after protesters — chiefly activist Daryle Lamont Jenkins of the Jersey City-based anti-racist One People's Project — voiced concerns about the group's message.

"Just because you have the freedom of speech doesn't mean you have the right to be heard if you're intolerant," said Jenkins, a former New Brunswick resident. "Anti-Semitic people or Nazis always say they have a right to believe what they wish.

"We're talking about people who are trying to deny that right to others."

Poker Face's "songs are about love, life and liberty with powerful and poignant lyrics and a rich sound reminiscent of Boston and Pink Floyd," a Libertarian National Party press release stated.

The forum section on the band's Web site, http://www.pokerface.com, contains articles posted — but not authored — by lead singer Paul Topete. The articles call Martin Luther King Jr. a Communist, speculate on whether Israel had a hand in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, and provide a list of Jewish CEOs of media companies in the United States and Britain.

Topete said the band is drawing fire for speaking openly about controversial subjects.

"We expose Zionist crimes and if you expose Zionist crimes, you're an anti-Semite," Topete said. "I can expose black crimes, I can expose Hispanic crimes, but if I expose Zionist crimes, people are so Semite-sensitive that you can't expose them, because right away you get labeled an anti-Semite."

Barry Weinstein of New York is a supporter of the band who accompanied Topete to a Home News Tribune interview in New Brunswick yesterday.

"I'm Jewish, and I don't find Paul Topete or the band to be anti-Semitic," Weinstein said. "What I find is an inquiring mind looking to find out what is going on."

Topete, who is strongly anti-illegal immigration, also denied the charges of racism, stating he's part Mexican.

Topete said he plans to address the convention on Saturday about the controversy if his appearance doesn't conflict with a new show the band just booked for that day. Topete declined to say where the new show was to take place.

Tom Howard of Edison, who has been following the band's career, has been outspoken in his criticism.

"The thing about the band is that they're not explicitly white power or blatantly racist, a band like Poker Face tries to hide behind a lot of other things," Howard said. "They try to hide it by putting it in very mainstream packaging but it also sends a very wrong message."

Jeffrey Pawlowski of Sayreville, who ran for governor of New Jersey on the Libertarian Party ticket last year, said he was not aware of the controversy, but said if he found Poker Face to be anti-Semitic or racist, he would confront the band.

"I personally hope it's not true," Pawlowski said. "Their music is inspiring and they played for free."

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#39. To: christine (#0)

The controversial band Poker Face, labeled by critics as anti-Semitic and racist, will not be performing at this year's state Libertarian Party convention, scheduled for Saturday at the Rutgers University Inn and Conference Center in New Brunswick.

Jesus 'H' Christ!

I've lost all hope for the Libertarian Party.

A bunch of jews in disguise.

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   18:29:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Mind_Virus (#39)

I've lost all hope for the Libertarian Party. A bunch of jews in disguise.

Anarchocapitalism: Just Another Jewish Cult.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-02-28   18:57:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Tauzero (#44)

Anarchocapitalism: Just Another Jewish Cult.

ANCAPS are clever in disguising their true nature.

Their loyalty resides with the state.

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-02-28   19:20:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Mind_Virus, Tauzero (#47)

How about a little Free Market Anti-Capitalism, Mutualism

And don't miss the blog, http://mutualist.blogspot.com/

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-02-28   19:29:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: BTP Holdings (#50)

Mutualism

I like the approach he suggests to rolling back the state and corporatism, but ultimately all forms of anarchism are guilty of the Fatal Conceit, IMO.

And no, he does not successfully resurrect the labor theory of value.

However, what he and the subjectivist economists (among whose number I count myself) generally do not spend much time thinking about -- or, if they have ideas on them, they do not inform their economics -- is religion, culture, ethnicity, and race. Given a sufficient degree of homogeneity along these vectors, something approaching a labor-value theory may prevail in a manner consistent with the more general and correct subjectivist framework.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-02-28   22:59:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Tauzero, Dakmar (#66)

ultimately all forms of anarchism are guilty of the Fatal Conceit

I'm really not familiar with this, and I don't lump mutualism in with other forms of anarchy. The anarchy stems from the complete lack of government except where it is duly authorized. Indeed, Patrick Henry and the anti-Federalists saw the dangers of which were designed into the U.S. Constitution. If not for the mischief of Congress we would not suffer as slaves to the money power.

Dakmar looked at the info about mutalism once and described it as a sort of Jeffersonian Goldwaterism.

The least interference by government in our private affairs the better for all is what I say.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-03-01   21:34:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: BTP Holdings (#82)

Fatal Conceit

Hayek reference -- he wrote a book of the same name. It's a criticism he directed primarily against those waging rationalist deconstructive war on traditional society, its forms and institutions, but is applicable to other rationalist traditions (including Objectivism, anarchocapitalism, and more garden-variety libertarianism, in particular its non-aggression supposition.) Mutualism.org has a similar tenor, IMO.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-03-01   22:53:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Tauzero (#83)

in particular its non-aggression supposition.) http://Mutualism.org has a similar tenor, IMO.

From wht I've seen on that site it seems as though it is the absense of excessive coercion from government (of which we have waaaaay too much of presently) which is part of what they hope to achieve. And that is achieved by building new structures within the existing corrupt structures so that eventually the new, less coercive (and more cooperative) structures can take their place. It also seems as though this fits in with the limited government ideal of the Founders.

It has possibilities and we should at least be open to it working in some context, though in a purist sense it might have some troubles. If you were to do some checking you would find that Europe has had a large increase in producers cooperatives and other local organizations which tend to remove things from the central control which gives our current corrupted system its tyrannical flavor.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-03-01   23:32:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: BTP Holdings (#84)

It has possibilities and we should at least be open to it working in some context

Absolutely. The strategy is attractive, and also the society he envisions, with many or most working for themselves rather than as serfs of a corporation or of the state (which is just a corporation with guns.)

(Side puzzle: Why do leftists, who hate guns and corporations, love the state? Makes no sense at all.)

Tauzero  posted on  2006-03-02   0:51:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Tauzero (#85)

(Side puzzle: Why do leftists, who hate guns and corporations, love the state? Makes no sense at all.)

Not such a great puzzle, they are commies first and foremost. They love the elitists such as Hillary but think there should be this utopia implemented by the nanny state. It is really quite Fabian of them.

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