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Title: Dramatic moment fire crews use a hose to blast a father-of-six out of his car during a traffic stop before cops shoot him dead
Source: Daily Mail
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... tim-pulled-knife-officers.html
Published: Mar 14, 2017
Author: Hannah Parry
Post Date: 2017-03-14 07:29:53 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 341
Comments: 16

Shocking video shows the moment fire crews blasted a father-of-six out of his van with a water hose after he was pulled over for a broken tail light - before police shot him dead.

The suspect, identified by his sister as Michael Anthony Perez, had been pulled over in Anaheim, California, on Saturday evening when police say he refused to get out of his minivan.

Officers say they became concerned when the 33-year-old pulled out a lighter and gas container.

'We felt this guy was going to light himself on fire or blow the car up,' Orange police Lt. Fred Lopez said.

video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2017/03/13/6277818229357131704/640x360_MP4_6277818229357131704.mp4

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This guy was pulled over for a broken headlight ??? Watch the video. No mention is made of any other crime. The guy simply refused to get out of the vehicle ? WTF is going on these days ?

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This guy was pulled over for a broken headlight ??? Watch the video. No mention is made of any other crime. The guy simply refused to get out of the vehicle ? WTF is going on these days ?

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Orange police Sgt. Rob Thorsen said Perez had a criminal record that included weapons and drugs violations.

He added that the less-than-lethal round was not effective in subduing the suspect so police were forced to use deadly tactics.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2017-03-14   7:47:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#1) (Edited)

I must have missed that in the article. I'll look again. OK, but this stop was for a broken tail light and not that he was threatening cops.A witness even shouted "why are you shooting" ...

'What the f**k are you shooting for? What are you shooting for?' one man asked repeatedly.

noone222  posted on  2017-03-14 08:09:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Orange police Sgt. Rob Thorsen said Perez had a criminal record that included weapons and drugs violations.

He added that the less-than-lethal round was not effective in subduing the suspect so police were forced to use deadly tactics.

Cops have a duty to stop you for any violations,even minor ones. That's what they are hired and paid to do.

Once they stop you,they have a right to demand you get out of your vehicle if they think you may be impaired in some way that makes it unsafe for you to drive,or if the cop thinks it is safer for him to have you out in the open so he or she can see your hands and immediate surroundings to make sure you aren't holding any weapons.

The flip side of that is you do NOT want to get out of the car without being told because the cop will almost always see that as a potentially aggressive move.

Use some common sense,folks. Think for a minute about how you would want a driver to react to being stopped if you were a cop on your own making a road stop on someone you don't know,and act that way.

I was stopped yesterday for speeding. Even though I know the deputy and he knows me,I STILL sat still inside my truck,rolling my window down before he approached me,and sat there with both hands on top of the steering wheel in plain sight with my shoulder harness still attached and looking straight ahead. I didn't even unhook the shoulder harness or reach for my wallet to have my driver's license out until he asked to see it. And this was with a cop that I know and who knows me and where I live.

Traffic stops are potentially dangerous as hell,so it is in YOUR best interests to do nothing that will cause the cops adrenaline level to spike,and everything you can do to put him or her at ease as they approach you. Even though this cop knew me,I had just bought a new truck that had out of state dealer's plates on it,so I wanted no misunderstandings.

Believe it or not I have had cops let me off with just a warning multiple times for stuff like minor speeding,taillight out,and similar offenses because of how I reacted to the stop. Didn't work this time,but I don't have anything to bitch about because I WAS speeding and he was doing the job he was hired to do.

Some you win and some you lose,but one thing you can count on is that if YOU get aggressive with a cop that has not been aggressive with you,things are NOT going to work out well for you. MOST cops are like most other people. If you are pleasant and non-threatening to them,they will be pleasant and non-threatening to you. However,if you start anything physical or even verbal it is YOU that is going to lose because you are by yourself,and he has the entire judicial system backing him or her,so why make it harder for yourself when you don't have to?

sneakypete  posted on  2017-03-14 09:54:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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