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Title: Wither Google/AlltheWeb hits on F4um Metzinger thread???
Source: Starwind
URL Source: http://N/A
Published: Mar 1, 2006
Author: Starwind
Post Date: 2006-03-01 12:56:07 by Starwind
Keywords: Google/AlltheWeb, Metzinger, thread???
Views: 2436
Comments: 67

It would seem that this Freedom4um posted thread here:

(Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)

Has been scrubbed/filtered out of major search engines.

Up until a 1-2 weeks ago, it appeared in the 1st 2 or 3 pages of hits on a Google search:

[Google] "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon"

but now it is does not appear.

Further, if one refines the search to:

[Google] site:www.freedom4um.com "Michelle Metzinger"

it still does not appear.

However a search for

[Google] site:www.freedom4um.com "Michelle"

brings up 197 hits specific to Freedom4um, mostly about Michelle Malkin, but none about Michelle Metzinger.

I have tried freedom4um site-specific searches for "Dallas", "Ceaphus", "Deep Ellum", "Rick Watkins" and "250-pound guy" and *none* of those searches yields a hit.

Further still, similar searches on "All the Web" yield the same results:

[All the Web] "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon"

brings up 250 hits, but the only Freedom4um hit is to the "Latest Articles: Dead Constitution" page which is now an obsolete reference and:

11 - 20 of 250 Results for "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon"

Freedom4um.com
... Dubose A witness captured the officer restraining Michelle Metzinger. click to watch The Dallas police ... that occurred between Officer Ceaphus Gordon and Michelle Metzinger, a 25-year ...
more hits from: http://216.133.76.156/cgi-bin/latestarticles.cgi?cn=113 - 29 KB

51 - 59 of 250 Results for "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon"

Derby scuffle officer has internal affairs history
... scuffle that occurred between Officer Ceaphus Gordon and Michelle Metzinger, a 25-year-old ... concrete after the scuffle between Dallas Officer Ceaphus Gordon and Michelle Metzinger ... more hits from: http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18092 - 35 KB

All the Web also has a site specific search, but such a search

[All the Web] SITE:www.freedom4um.com "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon"

yields 68 hits (mostly to sites in addition to freedom4um.com because All the Web's site-specific search is inclusive, but not limited) and the only Freedom4um hits found again are the same two:

21 - 30 of 68 Results for SITE:www.freedom4um.com "Michelle Metzinger" OR

Freedom4um.com
Freedom4um
more hits from: http://216.133.76.156/cgi-bin/latestarticles.cgi?cn=113 - 29 KB

31 - 40 of 68 Results for SITE:www.freedom4um.com "Michelle Metzinger" OR

4um: Derby scuffle officer has internal affairs history
Freedom4um ... occurred between Officer Ceaphus Gordon and Michelle Metzinger, a 25 ... between Dallas Officer Ceaphus Gordon and Michelle Metzinger ... questions and comments to webmaster@freedom4um.com ...
more hits from: http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18092 - 35 KB

Google and All the Web both produce numerous hits for numerous websites (news, forums, blogs, etc) discussing Michelle Metzinger, but it would seem the particular thread on Freedom4um wherein we dissected the evidence seems to be the only web-hit of which I'm aware that is no longer served up by these two serach engines.

One wonders why.

I can't imagine a mistake or bug that affects both Google and Yahoo (All the Web), that precludes only one particular thread that still exists and has continuously existed, when numerous other hits on other sites for the exact same subject matter are still produced.

I may be wrong, but I can't imagine any motivation for Ms. Metzinger's legal team to ask these two search engines to remove this specific find, though I can imagine why the City of Dallas or Officer Gordon's legal team might rather this thread not gain further noteriety. But I still have difficulty believing that Google or Yahoo would actually cooperate in excluding this particular hit from search results and I don't see a compelling legal argument that would pass muster to persuade a court to issue an injunction against Google or Yahoo.

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#1. To: All, ruthie, Jethro Tull, BTP Holdings, Christine, Zipporah, Neil McIver (#0)

Ruthie, does Michelle's legal team know about this?

Neil, can you imagine any F4um software changes (robot.txt??) that would drop the thread from view by crawlers?

Starwind  posted on  2006-03-01   12:59:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#3. To: Starwind, Neil McIver (#1)

Neil, can you imagine any F4um software changes (robot.txt??) that would drop the thread from view by crawlers?

let me ping Neil to this.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-01 13:01:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Starwind (#1)

Neil, can you imagine any F4um software changes (robot.txt??) that would drop the thread from view by crawlers?

Peculiar indeed! To anwer the question, no, there are no changes made with regard to indexing. I did recently add a blank robots.txt file to keep the error log from filling with useless warnings about it not being found by the spiders, but a blank robots file is the same as an empty one.

Other notes:

The site in indexable via "www.freedom4um.com", "freedom4um.com" and/or "216.133.76.156", but google searched with those names come up dry as well.

I've played around with the searches but was also unable to find the articles posted immediately before and after the Metzinger article. I did a similar search as you described, but looked instead for "Artnum=xxxx" where "xxxx" is the number appearing in the URL. I.e. searching on "site:freedom4um.com: Artnum=17934" should turn up the article on Metzinger.

I've not been able to have google return any hits on any articles above 10482 or so, though there are apparently "holes" in their search records with preceeding articles, so maybe there are articles indexed since that time. 4um now has over 20,000 articles (this one is 20598), but if you say it was indexed until recently, then in my best estimation, the only thing that could have changed is Google itself.

I did succussfully locate the source of 4um's article on Metzinger on google: "site:nbc5i.com Metzinger", so it seems it's not the article itself or "Metzinger" that has been purged.

This is sufficient to make me paranoid against google. Maybe they have more to be concerned about in turning over their search records to DHS than the privacy of their users...

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-03-01 14:13:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Starwind (#1)

Well I’ll be damned. Nice work star. My best guess is that our friend “Richard” was here to spin the story. We suspected as much. Our 4um thread is very damaging to his testimony (if he was a witness) or to that of the city (if he was spinning for them). I agree Michelle’s legal team should be notified about the apparent scrubbing by google/yahoo. I PM’d ruthie a while back and told her I’d be glad to come down to Dallas on Michelle’s behalf, if it would help. She has my private email addy, and I have hers. This is all very curious.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-03-01 14:58:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Starwind, ruthie, Jethro Tull, BTP Holdings, Christine, Zipporah, Neil McIver, Itisa1mosttoolate, Mind_Virus, JRadcliffe, Tauzero, Ragin1, Dakmar, SKYDRIFTER, Diana, robin, wbales, Eoghan, bluegrass (#1)

This could have something to do with it.

Lookout, France! Google hires neo- con headbanger

By Andrew Orlowski
24th May 2005
The Register, UK

The company that prides itself on "Doing No Evil" isn't taking any chances with its latest executive appointment. Dan Senor, the company's new Global Communications and Strategy VP, has a CV guaranteed to have Register columnist Otto Z Stern firing a celebratory fusillade skywards from his compound in New Mexico.

A former Senior Associate at the Carlyle Group, Senor was briefly Scott McLellan's deputy as White House spokesman before becoming head of the the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq's information department. The White House web site bills him as Senior Advisor to Presidential Envoy L. Paul Bremer III. Fox News hired Senor as a panelist in February. While in Iraq Senor showed his loyalty by going jogging in a Bush-Cheney '04 tracksuit.

Not everyone is impressed.

"I have come to associate his triangular, brush-cut head with an unceasing stream of bullshit. He's Ari Fleischer without the charm," writes one grump. "Hiring this guy is a repulsive move."

An impressive resume, for sure, but one perhaps more useful to a company building a military task force than a search engine. And it'll be fascinating to see the reaction of the French, with whom Google is locked into some extremely sensitive negotiations, to Senor's brand of special diplomacy.



Editor's comment: We find the following additional information on Dan Senor at Disinfopeia's Source Watch by the Center for Media and Democracy.

The following elements of Senor's CV are not present in the version on the White House website:


There is only one reason for a thug like Senor to be inserted into Google as Global Communications and Strategy VP. And that reason is to hobble the internet as a source of information.

This is even more frightening considering Google's recent acquisition of Blogger and Picasa.

Blogs scare the living daylights out of the fascists at corporate and government offices alike. So we must be aware that attempts to muzzle bloggers are not limited to governments. There is virtually no way for them to control the flow of information presently.

And, it is giving fits to the likes of Dan Senor and the spinmeisters at communication central under the auspices of Karl Rove and Scott McClellan at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue where we have seen that so-called journalists are paid to shill for the policy wonks of governmental agencies.

It is not so strange, then, that this sort of shilling is making an appearance in the commercial realm at USWeb.com.

It is now time for Google to begin it's descent from the #1 position and for all good Americans and other Nationalists around the world to turn to alternate search engines.

Here are a few recommendations from friends.

1. DevilFinder, has a look and feel similar to Google.

2. AltaVista, good for MP3 and images.

3. GigaBlast, give it a try.

4. Yahoo, a good old standby for news, etc.

There are bound to be more and maybe even a new offering coming soon from rumblings I have heard among web junkies who have their ear to the rail.

http://btpholdings.blogspot.com/2005/05/lookout-france-google- hires-neo-con.html

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