See other All is Vanity Articles
Title: Wither Google/AlltheWeb hits on F4um Metzinger thread???
Source:
Starwind
URL Source: http://N/A
Published: Mar 1, 2006
Author: Starwind
Post Date: 2006-03-01 12:56:07 by Starwind
Keywords: Google/AlltheWeb, Metzinger, thread???
Views: 1869
Comments: 67
It would seem that this Freedom4um posted thread here: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl) Has been scrubbed/filtered out of major search engines. Up until a 1-2 weeks ago, it appeared in the 1st 2 or 3 pages of hits on a Google search: but now it is does not appear. Further, if one refines the search to: it still does not appear. However a search for brings up 197 hits specific to Freedom4um, mostly about Michelle Malkin, but none about Michelle Metzinger. I have tried freedom4um site-specific searches for "Dallas", "Ceaphus", "Deep Ellum", "Rick Watkins" and "250-pound guy" and *none* of those searches yields a hit. Further still, similar searches on "All the Web" yield the same results: brings up 250 hits, but the only Freedom4um hit is to the "Latest Articles: Dead Constitution" page which is now an obsolete reference and: 11 - 20 of 250 Results for "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon" Freedom4um.com 51 - 59 of 250 Results for "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon" Derby scuffle officer has internal affairs history All the Web also has a site specific search, but such a search [All the Web] SITE:www.freedom4um.com "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon" yields 68 hits (mostly to sites in addition to freedom4um.com because All the Web's site-specific search is inclusive, but not limited) and the only Freedom4um hits found again are the same two: 21 - 30 of 68 Results for SITE:www.freedom4um.com "Michelle Metzinger" OR Freedom4um.com 31 - 40 of 68 Results for SITE:www.freedom4um.com "Michelle Metzinger" OR 4um: Derby scuffle officer has internal affairs history Google and All the Web both produce numerous hits for numerous websites (news, forums, blogs, etc) discussing Michelle Metzinger, but it would seem the particular thread on Freedom4um wherein we dissected the evidence seems to be the only web-hit of which I'm aware that is no longer served up by these two serach engines. One wonders why. I can't imagine a mistake or bug that affects both Google and Yahoo (All the Web), that precludes only one particular thread that still exists and has continuously existed, when numerous other hits on other sites for the exact same subject matter are still produced. I may be wrong, but I can't imagine any motivation for Ms. Metzinger's legal team to ask these two search engines to remove this specific find, though I can imagine why the City of Dallas or Officer Gordon's legal team might rather this thread not gain further noteriety. But I still have difficulty believing that Google or Yahoo would actually cooperate in excluding this particular hit from search results and I don't see a compelling legal argument that would pass muster to persuade a court to issue an injunction against Google or Yahoo.
... Dubose A witness captured the officer restraining Michelle Metzinger. click to watch The Dallas police ... that occurred between Officer Ceaphus Gordon and Michelle Metzinger, a 25-year ...
more hits from: http://216.133.76.156/cgi-bin/latestarticles.cgi?cn=113 - 29 KB
... scuffle that occurred between Officer Ceaphus Gordon and Michelle Metzinger, a 25-year-old ... concrete after the scuffle between Dallas Officer Ceaphus Gordon and Michelle Metzinger ... more hits from: http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18092 - 35 KB
Freedom4um
more hits from: http://216.133.76.156/cgi-bin/latestarticles.cgi?cn=113 - 29 KB
Freedom4um ... occurred between Officer Ceaphus Gordon and Michelle Metzinger, a 25 ... between Dallas Officer Ceaphus Gordon and Michelle Metzinger ... questions and comments to webmaster@freedom4um.com ...
more hits from: http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18092 - 35 KB
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
Comments (1-26) not displayed.
.
.
.
#27. To: robin (#11)
Assuming google is censoring here, it doesn't mean that anyone specifically reported 4um to googel and said "remove this page from your index". It's possible (I'd guess likely) that given an outright political censorship scenario on this particular case (assuming), google probably ran a general scan on their index for pages that contained her name along with certain words (inflamatory, perhaps), and removed any that turned up positive. That would be far more efficient, perhaps. That would explain why the original source article is still indexed on the news site and not 4um's page. It doesn't mean they don't hand censor. It may well have been. It just doesn't have to be that way. I should mention that if it was active censorship AND they do have an automated system for censoring, it would strongly suggest a the practice is not unique to Metzinger's case. If.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder. Your theory could be proved perhaps by running the same check against LibertyForum or someother blog with a good chance of inflammatory titles and references to what happened to her. I doubt if google does anything manually, but they must have some database of phrases/words (with context) that is being created. And, those phrases/words must be entered by someone at least once, I imagine.
"This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector." ~Plato
Can you tell from the robots.txt warnings when was the last time Google crawled the forum? It's done constantly. 2500 times so far today (since 4 AM), the last one within the last 12 minutes. I don't think google is to blame for this, but it just so happens that the last time the forum went down due to the error long being spammed 5000 times per second by apache complaining that mysql was unreachable, the IP that was tied to that error was google's. That was on the 15th and part of the fallout from that was my creation of the robots file to reduce the error log size. That error was associated with PostLiberty, not 4um.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder. OMG! They're watching us!!! And hiding the evidence. They're really just a mirror for (The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
Exactly. Do a search on Metzinger and see if other discussion forums come up, or if all hits are news-only sites. Again, yes. That second DB wouldn't necessarily have to be a permanent type thing, though. But *if* there is some politically machined censorship here, then it would require special hand work somewhere along the line. Absolutely.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder. Yes, I didn't think it would be so much, but that's how many entries there are claiming to be "googlebot" so far today. Maybe someone's MSIE browser is set to report that, but I doubt it. The article searches are random. No rhyme or reason that I can see.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder. I think carnivore was originally billed as a passive scanner that sits on an ISP and watches all traffic that passes through a pipe leading to a particlular live user, not an active search device for web sites. But that was a long time ago, and Big Brother isn't in the habit of talking about the latest spy techniques. Still, you shouldn't underestimate the resources available to a mega corp with shares valued in the $300-$500 range. They certainly have a nice army of computers.
BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder. I did do this BTW, several forums come up, inlcuding an article posted on LP, but not F4um's (or seemingly any Freedom4um hits since Sept '05 - unless as I wondered its a problem at google's server farm). [Google search] "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon" Given the fact they're crawling the site constantly, but reporting no hits, I'd say there's enough factual data at this point to ask Google if they have a problem and/or explanation for no recent F4um hits when searching? Yes, who brought this to google's attention?
-- George Bonser
#28. To: Neil McIver (#27)
#29. To: Starwind (#25)
-- George Bonser
#30. To: Neil McIver (#29)
It's done constantly. 2500 times so far today (since 4 AM), the last one within the last 12 minutes.
Carnivore
#31. To: robin (#28)
Your theory could be proved perhaps by running the same check against LibertyForum or someother blog with a good chance of inflammatory titles and references to what happened to her.
I doubt if google does anything manually, but they must have some database of phrases/words (with context) that is being created. And, those phrases/words must be entered by someone at least once, I imagine.
-- George Bonser
#32. To: Starwind (#30)
-- George Bonser
#33. To: Starwind (#30)
Carnivore
-- George Bonser
#34. To: Neil McIver, christine, zipporah, robin (#31)
Do a search on Metzinger and see if other discussion forums come up, or if all hits are news-only sites.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#35. To: Neil McIver, Starwind, christine, Zipporah (#31)
Out of curiousity I googled "michelle metzinger 4um" and got one hit, which caused my computer to warn me not to proceed, it said the certificate was hinky and theft of personal information was likely. Without the Metzinger I got some Malkin hits, but nothing on Metzinger at all.
After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S Burroughs
#36. To: Dakmar (#35)
Yeah.. did you mean this hit?
it said the certificate was hinky and theft of personal information was likely
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#37. To: All (#35)
When I read threads like these, I get this feeling I'm outside myself watching me read it, and knowing it's a done deal, completley over. I can't stand a society that promotes this. It's like I want to be anywhere but here, yet know it would be just the same. I'm waiting for the speakers in the sky to proclaim, ATTENTION PLANET EARTH! ATTENTION PLANET EARTH! WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL!
#38. To: Starwind (#36)
LOL! This is the hit I'm getting, but for pete's sake don't actually go there unless you know your system is secure https://koeln.ccc.de/~drt/hosts.gz
After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S Burroughs
#39. To: Ragin1 (#37)
It's okay though if they address ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION, 'cause that means cave dwelling guitar freaks are in charge.
After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S Burroughs
#40. To: Dakmar (#38)
I'm pretty well button'd up but I'm not inclined to test it. That could be a poorly disguised attempt to alter a hosts.etc file.
don't actually go there unless you know your system is secure
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#41. To: Dakmar (#39)
Doesn't anyone get this nagging feeling in the back of their skull that we are realy puny little specks manipulated for this big evil grinning steel device? Ok, I'm done with the paranoid insignificant thought process.
#42. To: Dakmar (#39)
Best break out the Slim Whitman CD's (where is JHoffa when we need him).
It's okay though if they address ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION, 'cause that means cave dwelling guitar freaks are in charge.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#43. To: All (#42)
LOL! That's the last time I'll lift a gif from an israeli website!
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#44. To: Starwind (#36)
giggling
Yeah.. did you mean this hit?
#45. To: Starwind, ruthie, Jethro Tull, BTP Holdings, Christine, Zipporah, Neil McIver, Itisa1mosttoolate, Mind_Virus, JRadcliffe, Tauzero, Ragin1, Dakmar, SKYDRIFTER, Diana, robin, wbales, Eoghan, bluegrass (#1)
Lookout, France! Google hires neo- con headbanger http://btpholdings.blogspot.com/2005/05/lookout-france-google- hires-neo-con.html
This could have something to do with it.
By Andrew Orlowski
24th May 2005
The Register, UK
The company that prides itself on "Doing No Evil" isn't taking any chances with its latest executive appointment. Dan Senor, the company's new Global Communications and Strategy VP, has a CV guaranteed to have Register columnist Otto Z Stern firing a celebratory fusillade skywards from his compound in New Mexico.
A former Senior Associate at the Carlyle Group, Senor was briefly Scott McLellan's deputy as White House spokesman before becoming head of the the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq's information department. The White House web site bills him as Senior Advisor to Presidential Envoy L. Paul Bremer III. Fox News hired Senor as a panelist in February. While in Iraq Senor showed his loyalty by going jogging in a Bush-Cheney '04 tracksuit.
Not everyone is impressed.
"I have come to associate his triangular, brush-cut head with an unceasing stream of bullshit. He's Ari Fleischer without the charm," writes one grump. "Hiring this guy is a repulsive move."
An impressive resume, for sure, but one perhaps more useful to a company building a military task force than a search engine. And it'll be fascinating to see the reaction of the French, with whom Google is locked into some extremely sensitive negotiations, to Senor's brand of special diplomacy.
Editor's comment: We find the following additional information on Dan Senor at Disinfopeia's Source Watch by the Center for Media and Democracy.The following elements of Senor's CV are not present in the version on the White House website:
There is only one reason for a thug like Senor to be inserted into Google as Global Communications and Strategy VP. And that reason is to hobble the internet as a source of information.
This is even more frightening considering Google's recent acquisition of Blogger and Picasa.
Blogs scare the living daylights out of the fascists at corporate and government offices alike. So we must be aware that attempts to muzzle bloggers are not limited to governments. There is virtually no way for them to control the flow of information presently.
And, it is giving fits to the likes of Dan Senor and the spinmeisters at communication central under the auspices of Karl Rove and Scott McClellan at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue where we have seen that so-called journalists are paid to shill for the policy wonks of governmental agencies.
It is not so strange, then, that this sort of shilling is making an appearance in the commercial realm at USWeb.com.
It is now time for Google to begin it's descent from the #1 position and for all good Americans and other Nationalists around the world to turn to alternate search engines.
Here are a few recommendations from friends.
1. DevilFinder, has a look and feel similar to Google.
2. AltaVista, good for MP3 and images.
3. GigaBlast, give it a try.
4. Yahoo, a good old standby for news, etc.
There are bound to be more and maybe even a new offering coming soon from rumblings I have heard among web junkies who have their ear to the rail.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#46. To: BTP Holdings (#45)
Dan Senor to 'Post': Iraq is on path to freedom Jerusalem Post; 7/2/2004; Jerusalem Post Staff Jerusalem Post 07-02-2004 Headline: Dan Senor to 'Post': Iraq is on path to freedom Byline: Jerusalem Post Staff Edition; Daily Section: Features Page: 24 Friday, July 2, 2004 -- Dan Senor, the spokesman for the US coalition in Iraq, is decidedly upbeat about the situation in that troubled country following the early handover of power on Monday and Saddam Hussein's first day in an Iraqi court on Thursday. "There's no question Iraq is on the path toward representative government, on the way towards a constitution, civilian control of the military, religious freedom, and freedom of speech," Senor told The Jerusalem Post on his return to Washington with his boss, the former administrator of the Coalition Provisional Authority, L. Paul Bremer. "No doubt, Iraqis, after the last 15 months, are better off than they were under 35 years of tyranny. Gone are gas attacks and torture, and despite the daily frustrations, the overwhelming majority are grateful, and embracing these new freedoms," Bremer said. Senor traveled to Baghdad in mid-April in one of the first civilian convoys to enter Iraq following the fall of Saddam's regime, and served as the coalition spokesman and communications adviser until Bremer's return to the US immediately after the near-secret handover ceremony. A graduate of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Senor completed his undergraduate studies at the University of Western Ontario and earned his MBA from Harvard Business School. -Snip
#47. To: Jethro Tull (#46)
Jerusalem Post; 7/2/2004; Jerusalem Post Staff Senor is a neocon through and through. He had better have his reservations at the kibbutz all lined up. Soon we will round up this batch of treasonous bastards.
Dan Senor to 'Post': Iraq is on path to freedom
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#48. To: BTP Holdings (#47)
If he got hit in the ass tonight by an 18-wheeler doing 80 MPH, I'd go to sleep with a smile on my face :)
Soon we will round up this batch of treasonous bastards.
#49. To: Jethro Tull (#48)
That could be arranged. Road kill is a common sight. ROTFLOL!
If he got hit in the ass tonight by an 18-wheeler doing 80 MPH, I'd go to sleep with a smile on my face :)
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#50. To: BTP Holdings (#45)
Thanks for the links. I havn't tried gigablast nor devilfinder.
#51. To: BTP Holdings, Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah, ruthie (#45)
I'm not given to conspiracy theories, but this stinks. I searched with everyone of BTP's suggested search engines, and they all pretty much return the same hits, none of which include the (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl) thread where all the evidenciary disection was done, but they do include the other F4um thread Derby scuffle officer has internal affairs history. It appears to be a concerted effort to scrub this particular thread from visibility, as wacky as that sounds.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#52. To: Starwind (#51)
How bizarre.. sure doesnt make any sense now does it.. sure is suspicious..
It appears to be a concerted effort to scrub this particular thread from visibility, as wacky as that sounds.
#53. To: Starwind (#51)
Google is the basis of the ten major search engines. So this does not surprise me in the least. If the neocon controlled Google has scrubbed this thread from their cache and blocked it from their spiders then it is a foregone conclusion that this is no longer a conspiracy theory but a conspiracy fact. We've been accused of being wacky before and the bots continue to spin their yarns even though they are continually refuted. Only fools believe the crap they post and disseminate. But there are far too many who are asleep and knoweth not they have been fooled.
as wacky as that sounds.
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
#54. To: All (#53)
hihi i don't really know about this stuff and sort of thought its just because Michelle's case is getting to be "old" news. i think we have to wait for the outcome of the grand jury decision on whether she has to answer the charges in court and also the results of the police internal investigation too. my legal friend says these things take time and there's always a lot of dealing going on between the sides in matters such as this. what i sincerely hope is that we've helped Michelle and she will come out of this with her head held high :) love ruthie XXXXXX
#55. To: ruthie, Starwind (#54)
No it's not because it's old news.. this is more than odd.. and is a red flag IMO.
i don't really know about this stuff and sort of thought its just because Michelle's case is getting to be "old" news.
#56. To: ruthie (#54)
I would agree that could be a reason for no hits in the news papers and news websites such as news.google.com But that is not a valid reason for generic web pages to nolonger appear in a general search for information. This is the only hit from freedom4um that still appears in an All the Web search for SITE:www. freedom4um.com "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon" 4um: Derby scuffle officer has internal affairs history The only plausible, "accidental" reason I can think of, is the added presence of the links to helpmichelle.org may have triggered something in the ranking algorithms that make them think we're trying to manipulate the ranking of helpmichelle.org, so I could understand why helpmichelle.org might appear lower in rank, but it doesn't, and I could understand why the thread "(Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)" might be lower in rank (it used to be rather high) and still be found, but it doesn't. BTW, have you any news of michelle's benefit event from last night? If so, could you please post it to a new thread?
thought its just because Michelle's case is getting to be "old" news
31 - 37 of 65 Results for SITE:www.freedom4um.com "Michelle Metzinger" OR
So obviously some threads are found and still listed, but not the one particular thread where we disected the evidence, and *none* by Google.
more hits from: http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18092 - 35 KB
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#57. To: All (#56)
MSN web search has picked up this thread: [MSN] "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon" 11 - 20 of 250 Results for "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon" Freedom4um.com ... Dubose A witness captured the officer restraining Michelle Metzinger. click to watch The Dallas police ... that ... 11 - 20 of 250 Results for "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon" Freedom4um.com ... Dubose A witness captured the officer restraining Michelle Metzinger. click to watch The Dallas police ... that ... I did just now realize that the search links above retain the '+' sign but the search engines don't interpret them as spaces like when the search request is originally entered, so I'll fix my links hereafter. Otherwise, just replace the '+' with a space and search again to see results. MSN does a better, less filtered (or is that more flavor?) search.
(don't ask about the 'list bullets' - I don't know how/why MSN formats the result list that way). 4um: Wither Google/AlltheWeb hits on F4um Metzinger thread???
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#58. To: Starwind (#56)
hihi Starwind i don't know how the event worked out - i'm not in regular contact with Michelle, i just feel very sorry for her about what happened and wanted to help :) love ruthie XXXXXX
BTW, have you any news of michelle's benefit event from last night? If so, could you please post it to a new thread?
#59. To: All (#57)
Part of the problem, possibly even the entire problem, may be that all is not well in Googelonia. Apparently, Google is in the midst of a major infrastructure rollout, and many websites are experiencing anomalous rankings, spurious search hits and outright ommissions/deletions. One poster "GoogleGuy" alluded to a possible problem caused by Google. Read a discussion amongst webmasters: and possibly to exploit or accommodate this equipment upgrade: Many webmasters are reporting sharp falloffs in webtraffic and Adsense revenues. I would point out, this may be the reason that Google recently inadvertently disclosed a projected shortfall in earnings, and their stock took a hit. Google recognized these 'temporary problems' were impacting customer website traffic and hence adsense revenue.
Picked up in the middle here:
Supplemental club: Big Daddy coming - Part 1 (with GoogleGuy's suspicions raised here:
continued here:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/33351-16-10.htm
and confirmed here:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/33351-20-10.htm)
Supplemental Club: Big Daddy - Part 2
Google goes gaga for Opteron
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#60. To: All (#59)
Web Site Files Complaint Against Google By MICHAEL LIEDTKE, AP Business WriterFri Mar 17, 6:36 PM ET Google Inc.'s mysterious methods for ranking Web sites came under attack Friday in a lawsuit accusing the online search engine leader of ruining scores of Internet businesses that have been wrongfully banished from its index. The civil complaint, filed in U.S. District Court in San Jose by KinderStart. com, seeks to be certified as a class action representing the owners of all Web sites blacklisted by Google's Internet-leading search engine since January 2001. KinderStart, a Norwalk-based Web site devoted to information about children, says it was dropped from Google's index a year ago without warning. "The world is becoming increasingly 'Googlized,'" said Gregory Yu, a lawyer for KinderStart. "For most people, that has been a good thing, but not for everyone." A Google spokesman said the company hadn't seen the suit and had no immediate comment. KinderStart alleges Google has engaged in anticompetitive behavior and misled the public by positioning its search engine as an objective source for finding Internet content. The suit seeks unspecified financial damages and a court order that would require Google to change its ways. The case aims at Google's heart 52; its tightly guarded formula for ranking Web sites. Google's system strives to elevate in search results the Web sites with content most relevant to a request. Because Google handles far more search requests than its rivals, its ranking system can make or break Web sites without a well-known domain name. With the stakes so high, Web sites assigned a low Google ranking are constantly trying to elevate their standing, and an entire cottage industry has formed surrounding search engine optimization. Some sites resort to dirty tricks, hoping the shenanigans will fool Google into highlighting their Web links. Google regularly tweaks its search formula to weed out the mischief makers 52; sometimes called "Black Hats." In the worst cases, Google exiles the manipulative Web sites, a practice that has become known as being sent to "the sandbox" for the equivalent of a children's time out. KinderStart's lawsuit alleges Google's policing efforts have penalized Web sites that have done nothing wrong. To make matters worse, the suit alleges the banished sites can't determine how they can restore their standings because the company doesn't explain its actions. Mountain View-based Google has previously defended its right to revise its search formula however it sees fit. In 2003, Google persuaded a federal judge to dismiss a case filed by Oklahoma City-based Search King Inc. after its search ranking abruptly fell. Google argued its search ranking formula represented an opinion protected by the First Amendment, and U.S. District Judge Vicki Miles-LaGrange agreed. This time, KinderStart is the one making accusations of free-speech violations 52; in Google's case, by reducing the traffic sent to Web sites that have been wrongfully punished. KinderStart said its traffic plunged by 70 percent after Google dropped it. At its peak, KinderStart's visitors viewed more than 10 million Web pages per month, according to the suit. Yu hopes to prove Google has become an "essential facility" that should be required to warn Web sites before dropping them from the index. "We don't really feel there is enough transparency and openness in a service that has become so important," Yu said. Google has always been tightlipped about how its search engine's works, maintaining the secrecy is essential to its success.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#61. To: Starwind (#60)
Well ..well isnt this interesting??
Google regularly tweaks its search formula to weed out the mischief makers 52; sometimes called "Black Hats." In the worst cases, Google exiles the manipulative Web sites, a practice that has become known as being sent to "the sandbox" for the equivalent of a children's time out.
#62. To: All, Ruthie, Zipporah, christine, Jethro Tull, Btp Holdings, robin, Dakmar (#0)
This thread got noticed: ... And some folks had been wondering what Google has been up to with their site and this overall story.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#63. To: All (#62)
And Google hasn't picked up this latest thread either:
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#64. To: All (#63)
MSN search: "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon" now reports our latest thread: Page 1 of 63 results containing "Michelle Metzinger" OR "Ceaphus Gordon" (1.30 seconds): Reports related to the indictment charge that Michelle Metzinger, 25, was belligerent and fought with Officer Ceaphus Gordon after the officer asked to see her identification because, he said, she had ...
But neither Google nor All the Web report the new thread.
4um: Skater charged with assault on officer
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#65. To: Starwind (#64)
Why should I be shocked by Google? I knew, in time, they'd compromise the net.
But neither Google nor All the Web report the new thread.
#66. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
Every paradigm-altering technology has the potential to (and typically does) compromise the egalitarian value it initially delivered in exchnage for self- serving power over the long-term, and Google is no exception. But whether by intent or accident is useful to understand if one is to fix/ combat the effects. To know the solution, one must understand the problem. In this case it would seem, not surprisingly, a combination of Google's own mistakes in rolling out a new infrastructure, overlayed by possibly deliberate censorship of particular information: the "(Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)" thread. It is hard to imagine a single, specific thread being accidentally or even algorithmically excluded, thoroughly without a trace, and the question becomes was the censorship initiated by Google, or by someone else threatened by what Google could find.
Why should I be shocked by Google? I knew, in time, they'd compromise the net.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
#67. To: All, Neil McIver, christine, zipporah (#66)
FWIW, as of today 3/27/06.. A MSN search: "(Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)" returns: Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl) Source: NBC5i.com URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html It would seem that this Freedom4um posted thread here: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl) Has been scrubbed/filtered out of major search engines. Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl) Source: NBC5i.com URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html Title: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl) Source: NBC5i.com URL Source: http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html Web Results
But a Google search: "(Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)" returns:
Page 1 of 4 results containing "(Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)" (4.16 seconds)4um: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop ...
Freedom4um.com
4um: (Dallas ) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop ...
4um: (Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop ...
Your search - "(Dallas) Police Deny Excessive Force In Bloody Arrest (black cop, white girl)" - did not match any documents.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest