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Neocon Nuttery See other Neocon Nuttery Articles Title: Same As Bush and Liberty Post What I see here on Freedom4um with respect to Trump is the same thing I saw on Liberty Post about Bush. No matter what Bush did, the LP Bots just wouldn't accept that they had be tricked and brainwashed. The following explains why those who are obsessed with being "conservative" have been so easily fooled by those like Trump and the neocons. New research that found that when so-called conservatives were exposed to evidence demonstrating the falsity of a partisan belief – such as a report demonstrating that Iraq didn’t have WMD, or that lowering taxes doesn’t increase government revenue – they became more convinced than ever that those beliefs were actually true. The scientists call this “the backfire effect”. The researchers argue that these types of conservatives are particularly vulnerable to this cognitive flaw, as their beliefs tend to be more rigid and immutable. This is a deeply human trait. One of the first scientists to really study this was Leon Festinger, a social psychologist at the University of Minnesota. In the summer of 1954, Festinger was reading the morning newspaper when he encountered a short article about Marion Keech, a housewife in suburban Minneapolis who was convinced that the apocalypse was coming. Keech had started getting messages from aliens a few years before, but now the messages were getting eerily specific. According to Sananda, an extra-terrestrial from the planet Clarion who was in regular contact with Keech, human civilization would be destroyed by a massive flood at midnight on December 20, 1954. Keech’s sci-fi prophecy soon gained a small band of followers. They trusted her divinations, and marked the date of Armageddon on their calendars. Many of them quit their jobs and sold their homes. The cultists didn’t bother buying Christmas presents or making arrangements for New Years Eve, since nothing would exist by then. Festinger immediately realized that Keech would make a great research subject. He decided to infiltrate the group by pretending to be a true believer. What Festinger wanted to study was the reaction of the cultist on December 21, when the world wasn’t destroyed and no spaceship appeared. Would Keech recant? What would happen when her prophesy failed? On the night of December 20, Keech’s followers gathered in her home and waited for instructions from the aliens. Midnight inexorably approached. When the clock read 12:01 and there were still no aliens, the cultists began to worry. A few began to cry. The aliens had let them down. But then Keech received a new telegram from outer space, which she quickly transcribed on her notepad. “This little group sitting all night long had spread so much light,” the aliens told her, “that god saved the world from destruction. Not since the beginning of time upon this Earth has there been such a force of Good and light as now floods this room.” It was their stubborn faith that had prevented the apocalypse. Although Keech’s predictions had been falsified, the group was now more convinced than ever that the aliens were real. They began proselytizing to others, sending out press releases and recruiting new believers. This is how they reacted to the dissonance of being wrong: by being more sure than ever that they were right. In other words, those members of the alien cult were just like conservatives learning that Iraq didn’t have WMD. They were so committed to their beliefs – they had so much invested in the idea that the world would end, or that Saddam had chemical weapons – that dissonant facts made them double-down. It would be too painful to be wrong, and so they convinced themselves that they were right. The Study Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 13.
#13. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
The psychology you refer to is absolutely real, but avoiding it is, I suspect, harder than your write up suggests. All people are convinced certain things are true, and the psychological principle you cite applies in both a positive and negative environment. Take a look at yourself. You said in a subsequent post: This is truth to you, and the fact that the BS Trump is enduring from the so-called Deep State, Dems, and media, isn't going to change your mind about the possibility that there actually might be something good about Trump, and I don't think it out of line to suggest that the friction Trump has endured the past couple weeks has, instead of giving you cause to reconsider Trump's worth, simply reinforced your belief that Trump was never "worth an ounce of piss". The point you make is sound. But it applies just as much when blindly following someone as it does when blindly despising them.
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