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Title: Same As Bush and Liberty Post
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Published: May 16, 2017
Author: Me
Post Date: 2017-05-16 18:18:35 by bush_is_a_moonie
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Views: 646
Comments: 18

What I see here on Freedom4um with respect to Trump is the same thing I saw on Liberty Post about Bush. No matter what Bush did, the LP Bots just wouldn't accept that they had be tricked and brainwashed.

The following explains why those who are obsessed with being "conservative" have been so easily fooled by those like Trump and the neocons.

New research that found that when so-called conservatives were exposed to evidence demonstrating the falsity of a partisan belief – such as a report demonstrating that Iraq didn’t have WMD, or that lowering taxes doesn’t increase government revenue – they became more convinced than ever that those beliefs were actually true. The scientists call this “the backfire effect”.

The researchers argue that these types of conservatives are particularly vulnerable to this cognitive flaw, as their beliefs tend to be more rigid and immutable.

This is a deeply human trait. One of the first scientists to really study this was Leon Festinger, a social psychologist at the University of Minnesota. In the summer of 1954, Festinger was reading the morning newspaper when he encountered a short article about Marion Keech, a housewife in suburban Minneapolis who was convinced that the apocalypse was coming. Keech had started getting messages from aliens a few years before, but now the messages were getting eerily specific. According to Sananda, an extra-terrestrial from the planet Clarion who was in regular contact with Keech, human civilization would be destroyed by a massive flood at midnight on December 20, 1954.

Keech’s sci-fi prophecy soon gained a small band of followers. They trusted her divinations, and marked the date of Armageddon on their calendars. Many of them quit their jobs and sold their homes. The cultists didn’t bother buying Christmas presents or making arrangements for New Years Eve, since nothing would exist by then.

Festinger immediately realized that Keech would make a great research subject. He decided to infiltrate the group by pretending to be a true believer. What Festinger wanted to study was the reaction of the cultist on December 21, when the world wasn’t destroyed and no spaceship appeared. Would Keech recant? What would happen when her prophesy failed?

On the night of December 20, Keech’s followers gathered in her home and waited for instructions from the aliens. Midnight inexorably approached. When the clock read 12:01 and there were still no aliens, the cultists began to worry. A few began to cry. The aliens had let them down. But then Keech received a new telegram from outer space, which she quickly transcribed on her notepad. “This little group sitting all night long had spread so much light,” the aliens told her, “that god saved the world from destruction. Not since the beginning of time upon this Earth has there been such a force of Good and light as now floods this room.” It was their stubborn faith that had prevented the apocalypse. Although Keech’s predictions had been falsified, the group was now more convinced than ever that the aliens were real. They began proselytizing to others, sending out press releases and recruiting new believers. This is how they reacted to the dissonance of being wrong: by being more sure than ever that they were right.

In other words, those members of the alien cult were just like conservatives learning that Iraq didn’t have WMD. They were so committed to their beliefs – they had so much invested in the idea that the world would end, or that Saddam had chemical weapons – that dissonant facts made them double-down. It would be too painful to be wrong, and so they convinced themselves that they were right.

The Study

gspp.berkeley.edu/assets/...-motivated-social-cog.pdf

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#7. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Only because you do not listen. I despised Bush and Clinton. Trump has good aspects but is being strangled by the Jewish Lobby. But what do you reasonably expect. The Zionists would kill him as they did JFK if he did everything you wanted right now. Time to grow up.

Horse  posted on  2017-05-16   19:01:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Horse (#7)

I didn't say you sided with Bush or Clinton. I said you are obviously suffering from the same type of cognitive dissonance and dualistic thinking that those on LP who supported Bush, no matter what he did.

And Trump is pro-Zionist, otherwise he wouldn't have flipped on minimizing the wars in the Middle East. Attack on Syria claiming the Syrian govt used sarin gas which, was obviously a lie. Had it been sarin gas, all those who were helping but not wearing gloves and breathing apparatus would have suffered the same fate as those they were treating.

Giving complete authority to military flag officers to determine what should be done. More troops in Afghanistan, troops in Syria, permanent occupation of Afghanistan, Iraq and most likely Syria. $100 billion worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia and cutting foreign aid except that given to Israel. His choice of Friedman to be the ambassador to Israel. Friedman is the president of American Friends of Bet El Yeshiva, a pro-settlement nonprofit based in Forest Hills, N.Y. Trump and his son-in-law Jared Kushner’s family foundation are among the nonprofit’s donors. It has poured millions of dollars into infrastructure, including a news outlet and religious schools, for Bet El, a hardline hilltop settlement north of the Palestinian city of Ramallah.

Don't try to feed BS where Israel is concerned.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2017-05-16   19:21:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#10. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#8)

I was speaking for myself when I said I opposed Bush and Clinton. I support Trump on some issues but not on others because the Jewish Lobby is strangling his administration. That is where I differ with your juvenile approach. You cannot oppose the Jewish Lobby and live if you are President. JFK proved that. Develop realistic expectations. Catherine Austin Fitts has said we will be better off when DC collapses.

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