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Title: France is Dead
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Published: Jul 1, 2017
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Post Date: 2017-07-01 19:27:39 by Lod
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#1. To: Lod (#0)
One way and only one way to stop such.
Where are the French troops? ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Here in the US people have been shot for less, MUCH less.
Was it this easy for Herr Hitler's troops to occupy France? :p
#2. To: Lod (#0)
#3. To: Lod (#0)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination 
#4. To: Lod (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#5. To: X-15 (#4)
I would say that Hitler had the last laugh, forcing the French to sign the Armistice in the same rail car the Germans had to sign the Treaty of Versailles at the end of WW I. ;) Was it this easy for Herr Hitler's troops to occupy France?
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#6. To: X-15 (#4)
Much easier... Gen. Heinz Guderian tanks were running so far ahead of infantry that Hitler became nervous. One unit, with no infantry came across nearly one thousand French troops hiding in a field. The gutless Frogs threw their rifles in the ditch and surrendered. The tank commander put them in a column of two, with hands in the air and told them to march eastward until they found Germans to surrender to. They did. Was it this easy for Herr Hitler's troops to occupy France? :p
#7. To: BTP Holdings (#5)
French communists were the only ones that really fought Hitler. In fact they also fought the Americans when they took Paris. Equal opportunity haters.
#8. To: Cynicom, 4 (#7)
Seems like the Napoleonic Wars put the frogs' defensive dicks in the dirt.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#9. To: Lod (#8)
War began Sept. 1939 when Hitler invaded Poland. Stalin waited two weeks to make his move into Poland. Any idea why????? Has to do with the French.
#10. To: Cynicom (#9)
No, I haven't a clue; please enlighten us, thanks.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#11. To: Lod (#10)
Unfortunately, Lod, that is not how this course in Modern History works. You gotta do the pop quiz before you get the remedial lecture. Good luck. Keep your eyes on your own paper. No, I haven't a clue; please enlighten us, thanks.
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison
#12. To: Lod (#10)
Here is something that may help to explain it all. It turns out that Russia was a key supplier to the German war machine. please enlighten us,
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#13. To: BTP Holdings (#12)
Quora does not like hot linking to titles, but you can google "Why-did- Sta...Hitler-when-it-was-clear- that-Hitler-was-vehemently-anti-Slavic-and- anti-Communist-and-would-inevitably- betray-him" and link from the search. There are some interesting link and comments there. The Russians and the Germans had a lot of economic relationships and military contacts before the war. Stalin for example let the Germans run secret tank and flying schools which operated under the radar of Veresailles armaments prohibitions. These schools were shut down after 1933 when the ideological strains between thes two countries became too severe. There are a lot of nooks and crannies of history that are not commonly explored in our homogenized curricula. There's always a lot of cozying up between potential combatants before all hell breaks loose. No telling quite who is going to shoulder to shoulder with whom or against whom with the outbreak of general war. We could be in for some surprises when next the fuse is lit.
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison
#14. To: Lod, randge (#10)
Stalin long had visions of camping out on the English Channel in France. He knew only one country kept him from doing so, that was Germany. Hitler admitted to his closest advisors that when he invaded Poland, if France moved into western Germany, "all will be lost". We will have nothing to stop them. Hitler took a huge gamble that the French would never fight and he was right. Hitler invaded Poland, Stalin waited two weeks to see what the French would do. The French went in and then withdrew, Stalin launched his invasion and took over half of Poland. Had the cowardly French moved, that version of WWII would not have happened. WWII would have broken out later anyway but the outcome might have been different. No, I haven't a clue; please enlighten us, thanks.
#15. To: BTP Holdings, randge, Cynicom (#12)
Thanks for the links and the information.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
#16. To: randge, all (#13) (Edited)
And the best place to learn about those nooks and crannies is here: barnesreview.org I was an initial subscriber to The Barnes Review. ;) There are a lot of nooks and crannies of history that are not commonly explored in our homogenized curricula.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#17. To: Cynicom, Lod, BTP Holdings (#14)
I should have added that the trade in materials macinery and weapons continued until the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was broken and Hitler began Operation Barbarossa. Hitler received raw materials during that period without which his invasion of Russia might not have been possible. In regard to the other question, it's been noted that while some of Stalin's generals were eager to strike as far as the English channel, Stalin himself did not harbor such ambitions. Witness to this is the fact that Stalin supoorted the American plan for the Channel invasion as opposed to a Mediterranean assault planned by Churchill. If you have sources on Stalin's long range goals, Cyni, I'd be most interested in perusing those.
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison
#18. To: randge, Lod, BTP Holdings, All (#17)
My eyesight is about gone so research is no longer possible. From memory...On the internet is available a verbatim Swiss newspaper account of a secret speech that Stalin gave to the Politburu in late 1930s, outlining his goal of going to the English Channel by subversion of European governments or by force if necessary. At that time Stalin had the largest parachute army in the world, over a million men. Such is always an offensive force, not defensive. On the internet are films of mass exercises of such. As for supporting the American plan for invasion cross Channel by Stalin, it was readily apparent at the time why, and more apparent now. Churchill wanted to keep Stalin as far EAST as possible and Stalin wanted to keep the Allies as far WEST as possible. Churchill was aware of what Stalin wanted, namely, all of Europe. Looking at a map of Europe at the close of WWII, it is readily apparent WHO WAS NOW IN CONTROL OF MOST OF EUROPE. Only the death of FDR saved Europe. After WWII most of western Europe nearly fell into Stalins hands without a fight. All thru internal subversion. In regard to the other question, it's been noted that while some of Stalin's generals were eager to strike as far as the English channel, Stalin himself did not harbor such ambitions. Witness to this is the fact that Stalin supoorted the American plan for the Channel invasion as opposed to a Mediterranean assault planned by Churchill.
#19. To: Cynicom (#18)
Only the death of FDR saved Europe. After WWII most of western Europe nearly fell into Stalins hands without a fight. All thru internal subversion. You are right about this, Cyni. FDR was a bum through and through. He abrogated the gold standard and gave us a "banking holiday" that put everyone behind the 8 ball. schil lerinstitute.org/educ/hist/eiw_this_week/v2n22_jun5.htmlChurchill wanted to keep Stalin as far EAST as possible and Stalin wanted to keep the Allies as far WEST as possible. Churchill was aware of what Stalin wanted, namely, all of Europe. Looking at a map of Europe at the close of WWII, it is readily apparent WHO WAS NOW IN CONTROL OF MOST OF EUROPE.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#20. To: Cynicom (#18)
Yes, once Hitler was out of the way, many say that Stalin could have achieved it. USAF intelligence estimated at the time that Soviet tanks could be at the Channel and in the Pyrenees within ten days. - What Good Is Grand Strategy?: Power and Purpose in American ... https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0801470285 Hal Brands - 2014 - Political Science, p.42
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison
#21. To: Lod, All (#0)
BTW: France may be dead, but Hungary and Poland are not. Hungarian PM speaks in English. "No applause from Fatima Merkel."
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison
#22. To: randge (#21)
That gentleman and Trump must be related????
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