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Title: ACLU: "Law Enforcement Was Standing Passively By, Seeming To Be Waiting For Violence To Take Place"
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=57198
Published: Aug 18, 2017
Author: Chris Menahan
Post Date: 2017-08-18 16:26:47 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 291
Comments: 14

The ACLU of Virginia said in a statement on Charlottesville that "law enforcement was standing passively by, seeming to be waiting for violence to take place, so that they would have grounds to declare an emergency, declare an 'unlawful assembly' and clear the area."

The ACLU of Virginia was defending themselves from attacks by Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe on Monday who tried to blame them for the violence.

From ACLU of Virginia: On National Public Radio’s Morning Edition today, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe blamed the ACLU for the violence that took place on Saturday in Charlottesville.

“The City of Charlottesville asked for that to be moved out of downtown Charlottesville to a park about a mile and a half away to a park with a lot of open fields. That was the place where it should have been,” McAuliffe said. “We were unfortunately sued by the ACLU. The judge ruled against us. That rally should not have been in the middle of downtown.”

The ACLU of Virginia’s Executive Director Claire G. Gastanaga had the following response:

“We are horrified by the violence that took place in Charlottesville on Saturday and the tragic loss of life that resulted from it. The ACLU of Virginia does not support violence. We do not support Nazis. We support the Constitution and laws of the United States. We would be eager to work with the governor and the attorney general on efforts to ensure that public officials understand their rights and obligations under the law.

“But let’s be clear: our lawsuit challenging the city to act constitutionally did not cause violence nor did it in any way address the question whether demonstrators could carry sticks or other weapons at the events.

“We asked the city to adhere to the U.S. Constitution and ensure people’s safety at the protest. It failed to do so. In our system, the city makes the rules and the courts enforce them. Our role is to ensure that the system works the same for everyone.

“In the weeks after the July 8 protests, the city (working with the governor and others) had ample opportunity to put together a case and present it in court on its own motion justifying the revocation of the permit and the imposition of a prior restraint on speech. If the judge in our case had been presented with any credible evidence or testimony by the city of an imminent threat of harm (other than a list of internet entries) or evidence that the change in permit would, in fact, result in no demonstration in downtown Charlottesville, I have confidence that he would have denied the injunction, and the city would have been faced with enforcing the change of venue and protecting demonstrators and counter-demonstrators in two locations.

“Instead, the city’s pleadings said that its decision to revoke the permit was based primarily on the unmanageable numbers of people who would show up. An affidavit from the police chief said that they expected twice as many counter-protesters (2,000) as protesters (1,000). Yet, the city did not revoke the permits for the counter-protesters, too. In light of those facts, the judge couldn’t get beyond the fact that the city hadn’t revoked all permits for demonstrations downtown on Saturday.

“It is the responsibility of law enforcement to ensure safety of both protesters and counter-protesters. The policing on Saturday was not effective in preventing violence. I was there and brought concerns directly to the secretary of public safety and the head of the Virginia State Police about the way that the barricades in the park limiting access by the arriving demonstrators and the lack of any physical separation of the protesters and counter-protesters on the street were contributing to the potential of violence. They did not respond. In fact, law enforcement was standing passively by, seeming to be waiting for violence to take place, so that they would have grounds to declare an emergency, declare an ‘unlawful assembly’ and clear the area.

“Rather than seeking to scapegoat the ACLU of Virginia and the Rutherford Institute for the devastating events on Saturday, it is my firm hope and desire that the governor and other state and local officials will learn from this past weekend how constitutionally to prevent events like the horror we saw in Charlottesville from ever happening again.”

All the evidence shows this is what happened as I've documented exhaustively. The lying media is refusing to air the videos which show how the police corralled the two groups together to provoke conflict.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

The whole mess was a psyop, from the bogus assed crisis actors and their tiki torch props march at night to the speed with which the msm was allowed to set the narrative. And Duke and Spencer were complicit in the whole charade. Neither of them are anything more than just Soros tools.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2017-08-18   16:41:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Obnoxicated (#1)

And Duke and Spencer were complicit in the whole charade. Neither of them are anything more than just Soros tools.

Don't think Duke and Spencer had much to do with it. The "Unite the Right" Fifth Columnist appears to have been its "founder", Jason Kessler, who previously was an activist with Occupy Wall Street and Obama supporter.

He sees himself as a professional provocateur. What if he was a ringer, a phony who revels in riling up some crazy people for some political purpose? We know the left is skilled in all manner of dirty tricks.

Ada  posted on  2017-12-11   7:26:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ada (#3) (Edited)

Obnoxicated: And Duke and Spencer were complicit in the whole charade. Neither of them are anything more than just Soros tools.

Ada: Don't think Duke and Spencer had much to do with it. The "Unite the Right" Fifth Columnist appears to have been its "founder", Jason Kessler, who previously was an activist with Occupy Wall Street and Obama supporter.

He sees himself as a professional provocateur. What if he was a ringer, a phony who revels in riling up some crazy people for some political purpose? We know the left is skilled in all manner of dirty tricks.


See also, additionally:


@ 4um Title: 'Let Them Fight, It Will Make It Easier to Declare An Unlawful Assembly': C-ville Police Chief Ordered Stand Down

poor communication with Virginia State Police, who were trying to extract their undercover agents from the fray in the park before Charlottesville riot police moved in.


Richard Spencer (alt right) pleads with riot police in Charlottesville - YouTube, 11 minutes [Profanity warning] | Published on Aug 12, 2017 by Demography Is Destiny

Unite The Right: state police declare the permitted rally (upheld by a federal court) an 'unlawful assembly'.


Numerous nefarious agendas of the Commiecrats (Leftists & RINOs) are concertedly and rapidly afoot since their skewed spinmeisterings of the Charlottesville traumatics. They were probably in the process of designing their Post-C'ville legislative maneuvers at least as far back as the DisruptJ20/January 20th riots by their chums, Antifa & Company, on Inauguration Day of this year. Soon after that upheaval, several Republican States moved to enact Driver Shield laws to deter protestors from recklessly obstructing emergency response vehicles and other autos traveling on public roadways. The Charlottesville vehicular "CrowdStrike" hoax sent some of those efforts into suspension and some into cancellation mode. That's just one example of under-reported after-effects for the benefit of Comniecrats. They're moving for assembly-permit changes, too, and policing "upgrades" and restrictions to the Second Amendment -- incuding the forbiddance of any armed Militia presence at public protests, even though all of the media-hyped Militia groups at the Unite the Right rallying in Charlottesville were Leftists or allied with them against those demonstrators but still got reported as if rightwing extremists.

GreyLmist  posted on  2017-12-11   13:16:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GreyLmist (#8)

Anything new on the case?

Ada  posted on  2017-12-11   15:03:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ada (#10) (Edited)

Anything new on the case?

I have quite a bit of archival materials yet to post for context and so on but am not quite sure at the moment about when or where - except for the PDF link I found to the recently issued 220-page report about it, which I plan to post soon at another 4um topic more specific to that. There's the link for a copy here, too. The 2nd paragraph on page 146 mentions 2 witnesses on the disputed matter of Chief Thomas, who claims not to recall having made the conflict-escalating statement, "Let them fight, it will make it easier to declare an unlawful assembly,” but they recall that he did.

Hunton & Williams | FINAL REPORT | INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF THE 2017 PROTEST EVENTS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA | Timothy J. Heaphy. Hunton & Williams LLP November 24, 2017 | Excerpt from Page 146:

Chief Thomas’s response to the increasing violence on Market Street was disappointingly passive. Captain Lewis and Chief Thomas’ personal assistant Emily Lantz both told us that upon the first signs of open violence on Market Street, Chief Thomas said “let them fight, it will make it easier to declare an unlawful assembly.” Thomas did not recall making that statement, though he did confirm that he waited to “see how things played out” before declaring the unlawful assembly. Regardless of what he said, Chief Thomas’ slow-footed response to violence put the safety of all at risk and created indelible images of this chaotic event.

3. Unlawful Assembly

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