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Title: Georgetown Law Students Turn Backs To Gonzales
Source: Rense
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general69/georgetwn.htm
Published: Mar 6, 2006
Author: Rense
Post Date: 2006-03-06 13:00:29 by Brian S
Keywords: Georgetown, Students, Gonzales
Views: 170
Comments: 22

3-6-6

Future American lawyers to be proud of.

Alberto Gonzales spoke before law students at Georgetown Law School today, justifying illegal, unauthorized surveilance of US citizens, but during the course of his speech the students in class did something pretty ballsy and brave. They got up from their seats and turned their backs to him.

To make matters worse for Gonzales, additional students came into the room, wearing black cowls and carrying a simple banner, written on a sheet.

Fortunately for him, it was a brief speech... followed by a panel discussion that basically ripped his argument in half.

And, as one of the people on the panel said,

"When you're a law student, they tell you that if you can't argue the law, argue the facts. They also tell you if you can't argue the facts, argue the law. If you can't argue either, apparently, the solution is to go on a public relations offensive and make it a political issue... to say over and over again "it's lawful", and to think that the American people will somehow come to believe this if we say it often enough.

In light of this, I'm proud of the very civil civil disobedience that was shown here today."

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Great news! We need more and more people to stand up to these thugs.

In speaking of the Truth, Henry David Thoreau once said: "Any Truth is better than make-believe ... rather than love, than money, than fame, give me Truth."

JRadcliffe  posted on  2006-03-06   13:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: JRadcliffe (#1)

I respectfully decline to participate in your unlawful system or activities - is one of the tactics used by some.

Good job, law students.

Lod  posted on  2006-03-06   13:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

Go Hoyas!

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_20977.shtml

Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction. ~George W. Bush

robin  posted on  2006-03-06   13:53:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

Cool!

BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-03-06   14:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Neil McIver (#4)

I just sent you a PM with some minor system problems I'm experiencing.

If you didn't receive it pls let me know. Thanks.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-03-06   15:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#0)

This isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened. Students at a college, I think in Kansas, did the exact same thing.

This could become habit forming. Nice kind of addiction to have. ;0)

Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear. Harry S. Truman

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-03-06   15:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6)

I think in Kansas, did the exact same thing.

Oh, maybe it is the same event in Georgetown since the link robin gives was from February 2nd.

Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear. Harry S. Truman

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-03-06   15:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings (#6)

Gonzales studied law at Harvard. I wonder when was the last time he went back there.

aristeides  posted on  2006-03-06   15:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings (#6)

Let's see how this regime reacts to college student protests. Will they go this far?

Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction. ~George W. Bush

robin  posted on  2006-03-06   15:58:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#9)

Will they go this far?

Kent State was the point of no return for me in my youth. When I saw what happened it turned me totally against the war in Vietnam. If those idiot Guardsmen would do that to kids in a U.S. college, then none of them in government were to be trusted.

Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear. Harry S. Truman

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-03-06   16:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings (#10)

Kent State was the point of no return for me in my youth. When I saw what happened it turned me totally against the war in Vietnam. If those idiot Guardsmen would do that to kids in a U.S. college, then none of them in government were to be trusted.

The way Abu Ghraib was a turning point for so many in the current war (which appears to be expanding into Iran very soon).

Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction. ~George W. Bush

robin  posted on  2006-03-06   16:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Brian S (#0)

Good for them!!! That's very encouraging for the future.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-06   16:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin (#9)

I wonder what happened to that girl who's screaming over the body in the Kent State picture. That's such a traumatic thing to happen. I wonder what she did with her life.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-06   16:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mehitable (#13)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Ann_Vecchio

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/2556/kent.html

Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction. ~George W. Bush

robin  posted on  2006-03-06   16:34:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robin (#14)

wow, thanks. I had wondered how she made out. Sounds like she had a lot of trouble but settled down eventually. That pic is so haunting -one of the great images of a generation.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-03-06   16:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#14)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Ann_Vecchio

How in the world did you manage to find that and post it in only two minutes?

I can envison a search that would take several hours.

There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed... because you know things can't get any worse. The Freshman (1990)

Esso  posted on  2006-03-06   16:50:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Esso (#16)

I got lucky, Wikipedia had a link to her name under the photo at their Kent State link (which came up quickly in a search of: "Kent State" protest).

Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction. ~George W. Bush

robin  posted on  2006-03-06   16:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Brian S (#0)

carrying a simple banner, written on a sheet

And what did the banner say?

angle  posted on  2006-03-06   18:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: angle (#18)

Gonzales began speaking. As he spoke, other students stood and turned their backs. Then a group in the back row stood up with black hoods on and held the banner with “Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither” up to the cameras. It was beautiful.

First Hand Account of Georgetown Law Students Protest of Gonzales.

aristeides  posted on  2006-03-06   18:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: aristeides (#19)

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/trurnback.jpg

angle  posted on  2006-03-06   19:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: aristeides (#19)

Thank you for the link.

Very unlikely they'll cut down any Georgetown student.

angle  posted on  2006-03-06   19:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Fred Mertz (#5)

If you didn't receive it pls let me know. Thanks.

I didn't get anything on pmail from you.

BTW: I have a better name for the software .... Microsoft Internet Exploder.
-- George Bonser

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-03-07   1:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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